Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm
I agree with Poison. Without knowledge of why people are missing from the thread. We are both lacking incoming content from them and the ability to vote them (as well as their vote). Their multiverse is a detriment to ours.
We are already down two mafias. In a 16 (12) - - > 7 (in the thread) how many mafias/anti towns we are expecting? 3? 4 at the most. If 3p included, I think 3 mafia 1 3p would make sense. But iirc, nanook said we only ha e two alignments?.
If that is true and we have the right to vote atm, there must be at least one scum here if there ain't one in the out of the thread players list.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:02 pm
@Poison why do you assume the thread-removal ability is something the mafia team controls?
I don't think any town would be benefited by less number of players talking in the thread. Secondly, I feel like the players who are taken out of the thread were chosen maybe not random rng from the host.
But we don’t know what they’re doing out there. There could be benefits we are unaware of. They are very notably not dead.
Yeah they are not. They are basically like a zero poster. That neither helps nor destroys the game? Besides, we didn't get back the players who were out of the thread last day. How is it helping exactly?
We don’t know. But just because they’re out of the thread right now doesn’t mean those players are incapable of helping us. It is clearly stated that they can (re-)join us here.
If they are town, it narrows down the pool of suspects in here and keeps them protected. Do you assume they are town?
Yeah I'm reading them town, at the most there can 1 imposter among them if we are dealing with 4 mafias, cause we get a lynch today, so we must be having a scum here atm.
Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:18 pm
Why Alison and Mac? What interests do you think either faction would have in removing them?
I’m gonna look into this later but opinions welcome.
Both Alison and mac are strong players. Tbh, since both of them read nutella correctly in the previous game I played with them, I might be having a biased opinion here. I'll try to look at nutella's iso first.
Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:26 pmnutella good
What is your read list btw?
Pretty confident on Sloonei and nutella being good. By association, lean good on TSP. Split on you... sometimes I think very bad and sometimes very innocent...
Literally no read on Marmot. Felt bad about fg earlier but not convinced, will have to get back to the ISOs later.
We do not know anything about the mechanics behind the players being removed from the thread. All we know is that four players started the game out of the thread and two more have joined them in existence outside of the thread.
We do not know that they are all in the same place or have communication with each other.
We do not know what mechanic is responsible for the removal of Alison and Mac: whether it was triggered by a town or anti-town ability, or something neutral; whether the four original out-of-thread players were responsible for it; whether or not Mac and Alison were even targeted specifically, or if they were chosen at random/pseudo-random.
We do not know how they will get back here. The first post tells us that at least the original four can be triggered to join the thread at some point. It is not explicitly stated that the other two can, but my assumption is that the same possibility is true for them.
We do not know what they are doing while they are out of the thread. If they were dead, they would simply be dead. But they appear to be active participants in this game still.
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Poison assumed that Alison and Mac were deliberately removed by a hostile entity and that each of them are town. If she is mafia then she just let slip a lot of information about the mechanics and those two players. We still have no way of knowing if this is the truth. But if Poison's assumption(s) are not true, then she may have just town-slipped instead: if the mafia team is not in control of removing players from the thread, then Mafia Poison would not be making these assumptions.
If Poison is town then the names I turn to next are Enrique and Marmot. I have not done a deep dive into Vulgard interactions yet.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:40 pm
We do not know anything about the mechanics behind the players being removed from the thread. All we know is that four players started the game out of the thread and two more have joined them in existence outside of the thread.
We do not know that they are all in the same place or have communication with each other.
We do not know what mechanic is responsible for the removal of Alison and Mac: whether it was triggered by a town or anti-town ability, or something neutral; whether the four original out-of-thread players were responsible for it; whether or not Mac and Alison were even targeted specifically, or if they were chosen at random/pseudo-random.
We do not know how they will get back here. The first post tells us that at least the original four can be triggered to join the thread at some point. It is not explicitly stated that the other two can, but my assumption is that the same possibility is true for them.
We do not know what they are doing while they are out of the thread. If they were dead, they would simply be dead. But they appear to be active participants in this game still.
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Poison assumed that Alison and Mac were deliberately removed by a hostile entity and that each of them are town. If she is mafia then she just let slip a lot of information about the mechanics and those two players. We still have no way of knowing if this is the truth. But if Poison's assumption(s) are not true, then she may have just town-slipped instead: if the mafia team is not in control of removing players from the thread, then Mafia Poison would not be making these assumptions.
If Poison is town then the names I turn to next are Enrique and Marmot. I have not done a deep dive into Vulgard interactions yet.
Given that the wolves probably? want to be removed from the thread I really don't feel like this is anything to be too concerned about revealing. I did one, the wolves already know it.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:18 pm
Given that the wolves probably? want to be removed from the thread I really don't feel like this is anything to be too concerned about revealing. I did one, the wolves already know it.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:18 pm
Given that the wolves probably? want to be removed from the thread I really don't feel like this is anything to be too concerned about revealing. I did one, the wolves already know it.
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:01 pm
Poison is acting similarly to when she was mafia and Vul is acting not at all like he did when he was town
For someone who's never met this Poison, could you explain to me these similarities.
Nutella had a wall on one particular aspect earlier. More generally: high general post count, more one liners than TSP. A few scum reads with content on those and not much big picture solving, though in this case we only have the promise of walls on those scum reads. Actually I don't even think we have the scum reads.
Also, frankly, Poison's posts this morning seem demotivated and sparse. As I'd expect Poison to be after losing a teammate to a day vig.
Poison no longer feels demotivated and sparse. If anything the opposite is true. Per your statement yesterday TSP, I'd be more inclined to look at someone you described like this yesterday. Losing 2 teammates on Day 1 is a huge blow for the mafia. [mention]Funnygurl555[/mention] didn't have anything to say after hopping into the thread with this post near the e. Bad look for her.
It's also worth acknowledging that there might not be a single mafia player that is voteable today. I still think we vote someone off since we're ahead, but something to keep in mind.
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