Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[staypositivefriend]

I think Jess is not scum

what swayed you?

[Esooa]

anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

bounce reads off me. I'm feeling bouncy

[TonyStarkPrime]

Because like he can’t be not town

Why can’t be wolf?


You have some kind of Mech on him or something?

He’s not w/w with LC but he’s protecting LC on the claim that LC is a slightly less evil mafia member. If he were mafia, well I guess maybe it’s like a reverse psychology kinda thing or whatever. But if they’re not on the same team then either Urist is Vault and thinks LC is town but defends him by saying he’s probably mafia or Urist is Enclave and would then probably want to chop LC

[Esooa]

anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

if everyone tryharded we would win

[TonyStarkPrime]

Urist is probably town and wrong

Because like he can’t be not town

Why would you phrase it like this?

Because that’s why he’s town

[Esooa]

I think Jess is not scum

what swayed you?

don't really remember. Just not feeling it

[Gavial]

Who Jess?

[staypositivefriend]

anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

bounce reads off me. I'm feeling bouncy

could you give me your GTH reads on the following names?

urist
rej
poison
c4e5g3d5
nanook

[Gavial]

I think Jess is not scum

what swayed you?

Guess this is Jess?

[Esooa]

Who Jess?

staypositivefriend

[staypositivefriend]

jess is a state of mind

[Sloonei]

i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication.

You could make this post score an 80000 on the Scoville scale by naming names right here.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Okay I’ll be here for 10 minutes, maybe. Someone ask me something

[Esooa]

anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

bounce reads off me. I'm feeling bouncy

could you give me your GTH reads on the following names?

urist
rej
poison
c4e5g3d5
nanook

nanook can be scum. Probably lightly >rand scum
Rej is town
Poison scummy
C4 has had some weird posts tbh and I'm less sure of them right now but I haven't really agreed with ~any reasons people have been scum reading him so lol
Urist idk. They're taking a really weird angle if scum. I'll probably need to ISO them to give real thoughts cause I haven't cared much

[Gavial]

Okay I’ll be here for 10 minutes, maybe. Someone ask me something

What’s your exact read on me?

[TonyStarkPrime]

SPF might think I’m ditching the thread if I don’t start explaining things

[Sloonei]

why is jess?
how is jess?
when is jess?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Okay I’ll be here for 10 minutes, maybe. Someone ask me something

What’s your exact read on me?

Obvious wolf but like you play like I do sometimes and some people think you’re town so I’m willing to not act on this suspicion

[Gavial]

why is jess?
how is jess?
when is jess?

Where is Jess?
I wanna give em hug!

[Gavial]

Okay I’ll be here for 10 minutes, maybe. Someone ask me something

What’s your exact read on me?

Obvious wolf but like you play like I do sometimes and some people think you’re town so I’m willing to not act on this suspicion

When you say “I play like you do” do you mean I’m playing similar to your wolf game or your overall Playstyle?

When you say I’m Obvious Wolf how actual confident are you in that? Because this game is still in the early stages.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean like my overall playstyle. I think you’re closer to my town game than wolf game too. I just mean that I look at the first page of your ISO and I think “why do I need to bother keep looking all of the info is right here”

[staypositivefriend]

i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication.

You could make this post score an 80000 on the Scoville scale by naming names right here.

urist, boknows, rej, kza

this isnt to say that all of these people are dodging the thread maliciously - i've just felt that communication with them has been difficult today

[Esooa]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

[TonyStarkPrime]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

[staypositivefriend]

anyone online and wanna discuss anything specific w/me?

i am tired and still not up to speed, sorry.

what's your take on the game state so far? how are we doing? what would you like to see happen over the last ~24 hours of day 1?

1. if you're town, then i want you to townread me in the next 24 hours. i can't snap my fingers and make it happen, but that's my wish. this is partially for selfish reasons and partially because i feel like it'll be good for the threadstate if we can work together. having as many people to bounce my reads off of as possible is really important to me in a game like this

2.the gamestate is fine. i'm concerned about the fact that we've been hearing from the same ~10 voices or so, when this is a 20+ player game. i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication. i don't really feel like any valuable towncores are forming today and i also don't feel that people who ~are~ universal townreads have any real sense of cohesion - feels like everyone is just kind of blindly stumbling around shouting their own suspicions right now

so uh....maybe the threadstate isn't as good as i thought, lmao, but most of this is probably par for the course for d1 of a game of this size. the best thing that could happen in the next 24 hours is if the players who have been largely silent today came back with strong and well-substantiated thoughts, but i don't think that's going to happen

bounce reads off me. I'm feeling bouncy

could you give me your GTH reads on the following names?

urist
rej
poison
c4e5g3d5
nanook

nanook can be scum. Probably lightly >rand scum
Rej is town
Poison scummy
C4 has had some weird posts tbh and I'm less sure of them right now but I haven't really agreed with ~any reasons people have been scum reading him so lol
Urist idk. They're taking a really weird angle if scum. I'll probably need to ISO them to give real thoughts cause I haven't cared much

oooh the rej townread is spicy, can i hear more about that? does it just stem from the post where he said that he was mischop bait?

somewhat agreed with nanook. mildly agreed with poison (i believe that someone presented the theory that poison is a little bit ~afraid~ of the thread and doesn't really know what direction/angles to take with her scumhunting, and that's a vibe that i've consistently felt more and more as the day has gone on and her content has waned. that might not be totally fair to her, i just feel like her solving has largely been directionless in a way that kinda pings me - im also kinda worried about her tr on me lol, it felt a little fake). i mildly scumlean urist but i could probably be talked out of it if they just ......explained their reads more in-depth. his reasoning for scumreading poison was fine, i guess

[Sloonei]

meh i wasn't gonna read the thread tonight but i guess i will. stand by for hot takes.

[Long Con]

I've decided to blindly sheep Sloonei.

This is an unexpected turn, Doctor.

y?

u always say im scum

Does he say you're town now?

it seemed to be implied

What

You gave a fart noise and a sass answer to me

How were you not exasperated?

[Esooa]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

idk what this means

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I still can’t figure out who chop chop is

That’s not you banana is it

[TonyStarkPrime]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

idk what this means

Read Chop’s posts and tell me they’re town. It feels like every single one gives off wolf vibes

[Sloonei]

I've decided to blindly sheep Sloonei.

This is an unexpected turn, Doctor.

y?

u always say im scum

Does he say you're town now?

it seemed to be implied

What

You gave a fart noise and a sass answer to me

How were you not exasperated?

i did?

[Sloonei]

sorry I find none of this SPF stuff and issue and I'm fucking bored of it

mind meld

one of the things that i'm struggling w/re: dom is that his logic feels so often like it is being presented in an overly aggressive/bad faith manner. i have just absolutely failed to understand dom's perspective no matter how hard i stretch his - his logic is just straight up incomprehensible to me

since you feel strongly about dom being down, would you mind acting as a translator of sorts? do you think that dom's concerns are genuine? do you think that they align with his usual style of scumhunting? is this type of aggressive a typical characteristic for his town game?

I think Dom is walking into this game knowing jack and shit and a lot of the posts he makes feels fired from the hip. foresight accused him of lifting cases wholesale from scum BTSC, but I've had the opposite impression - his tone feels organic and there are some twists of wording ("what fresh hell is this? vague on vague on vague. I am not entertained") that feel like they come from the heart and certainly don't fit with the idea that he's just citing the party line someone else cooked up.

The emotion and gradually increasing annoyance transitioning into a straight tunnel on foresight is, I think, genuine, and if it is genuine then that makes it much less likely that he's a mafioso setting foresight up. on a more abstract level, I get a sense of isolation and "going solo" from his play - even the people who townread him and agree with his pushes aren't really angling at things the same way, or pushing the same narratives, as he is.

This is a perfect articulation of my read on Dom.

[Long Con]

This is an unexpected turn, Doctor.

y?

u always say im scum

Does he say you're town now?

it seemed to be implied

What

You gave a fart noise and a sass answer to me

How were you not exasperated?

i did?

Are you stringing me along?

I'm literally lying in bed because it is time for me to go to sleep and checking Mafia on my phone before I plug it into a charger. Now I get you playing like you don't know what you said? What is fart.sx?

I will look forward to your answer when I wake up in the morning. Good night my friend.

[Esooa]

i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

So, this post is kinda weird. He says here and in a lot of other places here's here to play some low effort, as well as just sounding not so comfortable with his reads

If he's a wolf here, he's very self conscious, and uncomfortable in thread

i have two townreads but im not gonna say who yet = )

Heya, here to play some low effort, this is the first post that pinged me. I personally don't like posts like this because they are confusing as heck. This could be the most unneccessary soft claim, or this could be a bait, or this could be anything.
I always ask myself why a town should do this, the last time I saw someone do this they ended up masons with someone and they got lynched.

Anyone beat me to this.


Also I see Long Con and KZA are voted currently. I feel whenever I play here Long Con gets voted somehow. Will drop my opinions once I am cought up.

So looks like Rej is Maf

nah, I am the towniest town to ever town through this town

► Show Spoiler

But then we have posts like this

Rej probably a wolf for that opening gif.

I’m really good at mafia fyi.

cmon pal, since when are opening gifs scummy? this triggers me, they are part of a Rej with positive mindset

and this

Which sounds *very* genuine to me, and give off really towny vibes in a unique way and specifically contrary to the mindset I believe wolf!Rej would have made his earlier posts with. He sounds unsure of himself based on needing to repeat he's going to slank; but these townyness he feels he has isn't awkward, it's not forced or overblown, it's very natural and not unsure/worried! So, I think he's town

[Esooa]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

idk what this means

Read Chop’s posts and tell me they’re town. It feels like every single one gives off wolf vibes

I see

I was just confused then because I thought you town read him

He is very probably a wolf, yes

[Esooa]

I mean like my overall playstyle. I think you’re closer to my town game than wolf game too. I just mean that I look at the first page of your ISO and I think “why do I need to bother keep looking all of the info is right here”

This post confused me because you said they're closer to your town game than wolf game so I was very ???

Sorry for the miscommunication

[Sloonei]

Are you stringing me along?

I'm literally lying in bed because it is time for me to go to sleep and checking Mafia on my phone before I plug it into a charger. Now I get you playing like you don't know what you said? What is fart.sx?

I will look forward to your answer when I wake up in the morning. Good night my friend.

oh. lmao. i'm... i'm really laughing right now.

look in the top left of this image Esooa posted on the last page:

Spoiler: show

[Sloonei]

Falcon feels good too.

BoKnows should receive some attention.

I don't consider BK an innocent child yet, which means that he's >rand scum.

ay yo alison, just in case there are any Old People here could you explain what you mean when you say someone becomes an innocent child?

[DrWilgy]

I've decided to blindly sheep Sloonei.

This is an unexpected turn, Doctor.

y?

u always say im scum

only when I'm right

[Esooa]

I feel soooo hyped right now and it's making me want copy Ara's style of adding exclamation points to everything I say!!!!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

These both seem appropriate for a jay game

[KZA]

very big images

[staypositivefriend]

standwich

[Esooa]

me: I can't wait for Jess to comment on my Rej read that I think is really good!
Also me: yay new posts!

Nanook:

S T A N D W I C H

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Standwich needs some macaroni and cheese meat.

[staypositivefriend]

@esooa - thanks for explaining the townlean on rej. i'm not sure that i share the same perspective about those specific posts being town-indicative for him - i've noticed that scum tend to try to offset their nervousness in the early game by making a lot of jokes or being overly flippant. joking about being "super towny" to deflect a scumread isn't behavior that screams: "this person is not nervous", imo. but i appreciate the perspective and i agree that his tone doesnt feel overblown

[Esooa]

@esooa - thanks for explaining the townlean on rej. i'm not sure that i share the same perspective about those specific posts being town-indicative for him - i've noticed that scum tend to try to offset their nervousness in the early game by making a lot of jokes or being overly flippant. joking about being "super towny" to deflect a scumread isn't behavior that screams: "this person is not nervous", imo. but i appreciate the perspective and i agree that his tone doesnt feel overblown

I think his posts come across as genuinely believing he is towny, which if he's scum he would not genuinely believe

[staypositivefriend]

kinda think that nanook is scum but also kinda think he's not gonna get chopped until the endgame for some reason

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

me: I can't wait for Jess to comment on my Rej read that I think is really good!
Also me: yay new posts!

Nanook:

S T A N D W I C H

Sometimes you just have to take a moment to clear yourself town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

kinda think that nanook is scum but also kinda think he's not gonna get chopped until the endgame for some reason

If extremely recent history is any basis I’m going to get flash wagoned while not present at eod