Inception [END]

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Just noticed TL has ended every round except one with a vote on him.

Lulz.

That's everygame I am ever in TBH.

Pawn being afk makes me state alittle also I have an idea that may make sense for last night.

3P is night immune or has a Vest.

That makes the most sense to me as I had mentioned the idea earlier.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Let me ask what are the Odds of Juliet being the neutral and the original placements in the bottom having 2 wolfs and the neutral with a large amount of town.

[Lady LambdaDelta]

LLD, if you're here to play now, maybe ISO Mac for interactions with Eva or other wolves?

Also I can't read Jack because I've changed opinion about five times so far, so anyone else is allowed to do that for me.

I am not ISOing anyone lol that sounds like a lot of work.

Pawn needs to die so.

Just like nutella did.

okay sure

I can go back to lurking if you prefer.

[juliets]

[mention]Lady LambdaDelta[/mention] no don't go back to lurking! Please, throw your thoughts in the pile we need everyone!

[juliets]

Let me ask what are the Odds of Juliet being the neutral and the original placements in the bottom having 2 wolfs and the neutral with a large amount of town.

If I am the neutral, why did no one on our level get poisoned? And how did I poison Eva? I wasn't with her in F3 or before. And why would I poison iaafr - he read me as town (and I read him as town) in the last round.

[Lady LambdaDelta]

Okay I will explain this one last time

Person most likely to kill Eva there is Pawn

Person most likely to take a strong stancr of Eva's alignment there is Pawn. But he didn't

Pawn does not fit town Pawn in this game

So Pawn needs to die

[Lady LambdaDelta]

I concede pawn might have somr lurk town equity.

I don't care.

He needs to die on percentage right now before odds lower and he is in lylo.

[juliets]

Okay I will explain this one last time

Person most likely to kill Eva there is Pawn

Person most likely to take a strong stancr of Eva's alignment there is Pawn. But he didn't

Pawn does not fit town Pawn in this game

So Pawn needs to die

Ok thanks for the explanation again LLD.

[112]

Regarding Colin

He really did bumble around at the beginning of Day 5, seemed to know nothing or was that a wolf trying to look towny:

My incompetence should town confirm me, imo.

The rest of his posts look towny to me.

@112 what are you seeing about him that makes you think he's scum.

good point.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Does anyone know how long it generally takes poison in a mafia game to kill someone? Is it normally poison at night and the next day they die or is it normally a longer time from poisoning to death? I'm interested in what is the standard way this is done.

If its normally done at night and they die the next day then Radish has to be the poisoner because we know it wasn't sprityo and they were the only 3 in that Limbo. If the standard is it takes several days then that opens up the the window for someone else to be the poisoner.

Also, just a note, I'm off ISOing Jack's last 3 days but I'll check back here to stay current.

Usually it's at night and you die the next day.

I agree with you except it's kinda a stupid move to poison during pretend F3.

I had been thinking it could be sprit because of that. But obviously not.

The 3P and the alignment cop probably have to have been, barring pseudo lynches, in the same level, actually. Otherwise it's a wasted cop role.

So based on that logic, you cannot be the 3P or the 3P detector because Eva and Sprityo flipped. Same for me because Iaafr, Epi and Dom have all flipped. Of course, I'm not claiming to not be those roles, I'm just saying that based on some assumptions, you could also make that assumption.

With a 3P cop, regular cop would presumably get "not scum" when targeting the 3P so Quin and Pawn, while probably cleared of being wolves, are actually not cleared of being 3P. I'm not up for lynching them but it's something we should keep in mind.

My working theory was LLD, as she's been laying low except for pushing nutella's lynch hard, then nutella ends up shot. 3P!LLD shoots nutella for towncred (congratulating Vig for listening to her or something) and it backfires, so she disappears again.

But it's mainly (er, entirely) speculation.

That’s pretty solid.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Man, my voting record fucking sucks.

3 of your 5 final votes are unknown flips, and the other 2 are both iaafr, who a lot of people voted for. Why do you say it sucks?

I didn’t vote any of the three wolves we’ve flipped.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let me ask what are the Odds of Juliet being the neutral and the original placements in the bottom having 2 wolfs and the neutral with a large amount of town.

If I am the neutral, why did no one on our level get poisoned? And how did I poison Eva? I wasn't with her in F3 or before. And why would I poison iaafr - he read me as town (and I read him as town) in the last round.

That first bit applies to everyone.

That second bit applies to everyone but Radishes.

That last bit is a good point. If Juliets was 3P, poisoning Iaafr could get her killed if he flipped scum. He almost got lynched like three days in a row. Juliets is one of the last players who would shoot there.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Even if she was was damn certain he was a fuzzy town rabbit, it doesn’t help her at all to kill him from a protown or lms or stall 3P perspective.

[MacDougall]

Can you guys just lynch me

[112]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

[juliets]

I don't understand the Jack votes. What did I miss about him?

[juliets]

Ugh I have to vote this morning. Of the 3 who have votes I'm most apt to go with Mac.

[112]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

Maybe I'm reaction fishing and you ruin it when you put the onus back on me.

[MacDougall]

Ah yes my reverse psychology ploy attracted an ally

[Quin]

[VOTE: lld] aubergine because...feelings?

[juliets]

I'm going to have to vote Mac. I will likely not be able to change my vote so if something happens and he looks real towny I hope everyone else jumps off of him.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

Maybe I'm reaction fishing and you ruin it when you put the onus back on me.

You don't have the town equity to reaction fish.

[MacDougall]

I'm going to have to vote Mac. I will likely not be able to change my vote so if something happens and he looks real towny I hope everyone else jumps off of him.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I dunno which of you have managed to POE clamp me but it's pretty solid work lol

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

Maybe I'm reaction fishing and you ruin it when you put the onus back on me.

You don't have the town equity to reaction fish.

Why are you voting for me? I'm sure I can explain anything I am purported to have done.

[112]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

Maybe I'm reaction fishing and you ruin it when you put the onus back on me.

You don't have the town equity to reaction fish.

I don't need town equity to play my game. That's the beauty of it.

[112]

off mac imo

[MacDougall]

Save meeeee

[112]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Bye.

[112]

Pynchon's Against The Day is underrated imo.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Off for the day and the next week so I finally have time to do them isos I’ve been promising.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We’re going 112, Colin, LLD, Mac.

[ColinIsCool]

Haven’t read anything but I reeeeeeeally don’t think Mac blows up Epi knowing his flip

Quin is always there, but not, in a menacing sort of way. I won’t be home or on WiFi until after after EOD so [VOTE: Quin] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Cutting this short in the interest of time.

112’s iso is a lot of me being like “this is a meh interaction with a wolf” or “this is an accusation that doesn’t go anywhere (for players of both alignments).”

There’s definitely potential agenda in their posts but not to the extent I saw it in end of WC1, where I was shouting at Mac to vote for them.

Overall, I’m neither compelled to take them out of the POE or vote them today.

Moving on.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Just skimmed again through million of posts and forgot half of the content.
I will just relax as I rly have a bad day today and I wasted my energy into carrying home the Cats/Dogs game with Novas and Speedchuck

Here some crappy GTH reads to satisfy your hunger:

Nutella - good
Michelle - good
Sprityo - good
the guy with the rabbit avatar - good

I have no clue who this guy is but this entrance instantly makes me hate him

You leave Rej alone he’s a nice person and I like his emojis.

thank you


@Evenstar
2 options you really are scum and you just mention my obviously scummy behaviour to set up something going on against me
or you are a honest civillian who saw my bad play and simply questions me, but then still harshly puts a bad read on me because of a fucking D0 ISO.
Youu will be surprised, my D0 Iso really is bullshit.

So which option?

@Michelle
I think you have some too high expectations of me, I didn't meant to cause confusion with bullcrap-reads.
I skimmed through and I still have 4 pages to read, but I highly think you are a civillian who is putting much effort into game.

I didn't sign up here to give my 100% effort and catch up 1000 posts twice each to ensure I got everything + doing ISOs.

I am glad I rolled a pedestrian role to hang up in the civillisation so don't mind me too much, I will try to play clean and fun.

Since my min effort + new faces I am not able to generate reads on wolves, feel free to slaughter me or integrate me into towncore.

I will go sleep for now and I will catch up alot tomorrow...rly alot I feel, anyway good night, and tag me if anything.

I initially had a townread on Rej. I can’t explain it but this post feels like it has an innocent mentality behind it.

I’m not taking Eva’s words here to mean much. We already know she can be mean to teammates. The push seems personal, not alignment based.

And that’s basically it for Rej.

You’re gonna have to take my word I’m not making up Colin posts cause I ain’t screenshotting and uploading all this on mobile.

Colin enters with some basic catchup posts, setup questions, requests for clarification and never mind I found it myselfs.

So. Obviously I’m missing like a trillion pages of context but out of THIS thread I like the contributions of Radishes, Michelle, Epignosis, MacDougall and Pawn Lelouch.

Since others have remarked though I am curious to have this on record: if you’ve played with Epi before/recently what do you make of him taking the reins and ISOing?

Also for the record I’m not going to be the one to copy his posts since I am on mobile.

Lol relatable final line.
Decent look. I’m of the current opinion that none of the players Colin lists are wolves except maybe Mac.

Hallo Colin good chum! Welcome to fucktown.

Thanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.

Feels innocent. Mac then calls him cute.

Some mechanical talk with Eva I won’t quote.

Oh this is kinda good.

I want more from Rej/Colin.

I’ll do my best but I think I missed upwards of 80 pages (at least) of content that all of this phase’s content is predicated on, so ...

I’ll reiterate that I find myself agreeing most strenuously with Mister Radishes, to the extent that I can grasp matters.

stop impersonating elephant and give me some real reasoning, even if it sucks.

Prompt me in a direction and I’ll do my best. I am struggling a little with the rules because there’s only one person I want to vote for really.

Okay so this looks whatever from Colin’s perspective. But from Eva’s?

Elephant is a Mendel alt and this was not revealed to me until after we got back to DL1. So Eva doesn’t “know” Elephant on paper. So she’s talking about Elephant this game, who is her partner, and comparing Colin to that. Maybe I’m reading too much into this and she’s just also calling Colin cute but it feels like seed planting.

Eva asks Colin for reads on 112, LLD, Dom. (My phone continues to want to autocorrect Dom to DoK to Dropped off kiddos. Love you love you. I must add him to the dictionary.)

112: tough to get a read on because there is so much that I clearly missed for there to be a huge wagon. One thing in their favor though is that if they were scum I would expect scum to sacrifice them rather than the Godfather, right? Based on content in this thread so far I am null.

Dom: felt like the civ Dom I have seen before, with more GIFs. I understood where he was coming from eventually. Tentative thumbs up

LLD: not enough content, just a lot of GIFs and complaining. Lean more wolf than not because a wolf would prob be more predisposed toward complaining if their Godfather got lynched but that’s pretty much all I got

This is fine too.


Generally getting a town Colin vibe here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]juliets[/mention]
[mention]112[/mention]
[mention]master radishes[/mention]

I’m not gonna finish these in all likelihood. What is your biggest reason for suspecting Mac?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Why.

Maybe I'm reaction fishing and you ruin it when you put the onus back on me.

You don't have the town equity to reaction fish.

Lol.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Bye.

Cool. Cool cool cool cool.

[Jackofhearts2005]

You know what, normally I hold off voting for awhile, but [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.

His voting record is just so bad. Most of all, being on Hyena the day Elephant was lynched (beside Eva and Pawn). If he's just a townie not paying much attention, I sort of figure he'd at least have followed the crowd on a scum lynch somewhere.

K. Not super convincing at face value (maybe just cause I didn’t vote any of the dead wolves) but townMac has been known to have stupid good instincts, especially early on so fair point.

[Master Radishes]

My read on Mac is only, I dunno, 50%.

But I don't have a higher read than that. Maybe Pawn at an equal 50% as well. I'm willing to test those waters as well.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Trustworthy Liberal why in the heck did you vote for Epi?

I'm not after you this phase though, it's Macdougall that needs to be lynched this round.

Oh fucking please you literally posted that you knew Epi would flip town.

Of course I knew and so did you. He was OBVIOUSLY town. How long have you been playing with him? How could you not recognize him as town? Do you remember saying this Day 5?

I really don't understand the suspicion towards Epi. This is just Epi.

How in the blue hell was he "obviously' town.

Because he was producing a shit ton of content which scum Epi doesn't normally do in my experience. All the stuff people didn't like was, as you said, just Epi being Epi. And if you didn't know from that you sure as hell should have known by how there was nothing going on during EOD. That signals a town lynch and you are savvy enough to know that.

Bolded is a stone faced lie.

Also I have seen many scum lynches go down without movement at EOD.

I don't care what you say Mac you knew he was town. Lynch me, then if people don't believe me now they will sure believe me then.

This is the strongest argument for a Mac lynch. I suspected Epi at points but I also townread him at points (same for Iaafr).

Mac pushed Epi and never doubted himself. Yeah, Epi has bad interactions with flipped scum. He also had some real townie looking posts. There’s a reason I voted no lynch at DL3 part 2 (Dom/Epi/Iaafr/Jack). There’s a reason I didn’t vote Epi when we came back to DL1.

Mac knows Epi as well as me and Juliets do. Town!Mac shouldn’t have been so “sure,” otherwise good tone be damned.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I said the bolder bit about Epi in DL3 part 2 and Epi told me I was wrong.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Bolded*

[Master Radishes]

My activity to EoD will be a bit sporadic, FYI. Wife ill. Apparently I vowed to take care of her in sickness? Not sure I remember that bit.

[Jackofhearts2005]

My read on Mac is only, I dunno, 50%.

But I don't have a higher read than that. Maybe Pawn at an equal 50% as well. I'm willing to test those waters as well.

I think Mac is the right lynch here.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

Hey [mention]112[/mention] were you just reaction-testing Mac with your vote?

[MacDougall]

Nawww you guys are whack

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Pawn] aubergine

Sadly I .cannot be here for EOD. I am town. I trust at least some of you to realise this. Good day.

[112]

not feeling it, mac

[Master Radishes]

What happens if I do this. [VOTE: Pawn] aubergine