Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:59 pm
@dyachei What is your read on me?
Can you talk about how Alison is your top scum read when she has only 7 posts in the game? I'm not saying it's wrong, and I you probably have talked a lot about it, but if you would restate, I'd appreciate. I did read Alison's ISO btw.
I really like tangy's read of you. I think you've come into the thread with low expectations and have outperformed them to a ridiculous amount. I don't really agree with you on gavial because it seems like he's being antitown at minimum if not outright wolfy. But i think your process feels right to me
i also know that you can be a scary wolf. So i'm calling you light v but I've got the fear
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:00 pm
sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery
where's your head at hally? feel like i've seen you townread a bunch of people and wolfread seth, any other people you think are worth looking into as possibly being of the lupine persuasion?
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:18 amI've been thinking about Zack lately (no sexual).
Hey @Tangrowth, I read all the words in your wall, whether or not I absorbed any of it. I saw you wanted to figure out our reads differences, though. What reads you wanna sort out?
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm
it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her
towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.
interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV
any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy
nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:02 pmI really like tangy's read of you. I think you've come into the thread with low expectations and have outperformed them to a ridiculous amount. I don't really agree with you on gavial because it seems like he's being antitown at minimum if not outright wolfy. But i think your process feels right to me
i also know that you can be a scary wolf. So i'm calling you light v but I've got the fear
Well, my process on Gavial is that I'm not really worried regardless of alignment. He gets accused of being antitown as town a lot, which may be fair, but I say give him a chance anyway. It's more that it's a very boring vote and a very boring predictable wagon that will not help the game in the long run, regardless of his alignment. And I still think if he is scum, some amount of mafia is probably on his wagon right now.
I also asked you about Alison. Do you mind answering?
I forgot gavial but I sort of touched on it in my reply to dizzy. gav is playing an antitown game at minimum but I'm not really sure what that means for his alignment
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:02 pmI really like tangy's read of you. I think you've come into the thread with low expectations and have outperformed them to a ridiculous amount. I don't really agree with you on gavial because it seems like he's being antitown at minimum if not outright wolfy. But i think your process feels right to me
i also know that you can be a scary wolf. So i'm calling you light v but I've got the fear
Well, my process on Gavial is that I'm not really worried regardless of alignment. He gets accused of being antitown as town a lot, which may be fair, but I say give him a chance anyway. It's more that it's a very boring vote and a very boring predictable wagon that will not help the game in the long run, regardless of his alignment. And I still think if he is scum, some amount of mafia is probably on his wagon right now.
I also asked you about Alison. Do you mind answering?
alison made a super simplistic read without actually reading what she was talking about. Which isn't what I'm used to with v!alison. I expect her to be meticulous instead of just saying nut's easy to wagon so it's obviously a mis-elim and there are wolves on her wagon. That seems pretty level 0 for alison but also nutella hasn't really seemed v to me? like her tone is off. So it might even be tmi
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm
it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her
towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.
interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV
any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy
nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p
tbh i am still not really jiving with nutella's posts and am relying more on a bunch of people who seem to know her well insisting this is her town meta
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:18 amI've been thinking about Zack lately (no sexual).
bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:08 pm
gotta say if dizzy is a wolf i don't see the point of going to bat so vociferously for gavial like this, regardless of gavial's alignment
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm
it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her
towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.
interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV
any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy
nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p
tbh i am still not really jiving with nutella's posts and am relying more on a bunch of people who seem to know her well insisting this is her town meta
ok and? no one believed me when I said she wasn't town when she was 3p either. I'm pretty decent at reading her and don't depend on others for it
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:08 pmalison made a super simplistic read without actually reading what she was talking about. Which isn't what I'm used to with v!alison. I expect her to be meticulous instead of just saying nut's easy to wagon so it's obviously a mis-elim and there are wolves on her wagon. That seems pretty level 0 for alison but also nutella hasn't really seemed v to me? like her tone is off. So it might even be tmi
I agree. Alison is suspect and hasn't made any posts that I associate with Alison.
I do believe she may have less time and energy to devote to this game. However, what little there is is not good in my eyes.
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:08 pmalison made a super simplistic read without actually reading what she was talking about. Which isn't what I'm used to with v!alison. I expect her to be meticulous instead of just saying nut's easy to wagon so it's obviously a mis-elim and there are wolves on her wagon. That seems pretty level 0 for alison but also nutella hasn't really seemed v to me? like her tone is off. So it might even be tmi
I agree. Alison is suspect and hasn't made any posts that I associate with Alison.
I do believe she may have less time and energy to devote to this game. However, what little there is is not good in my eyes.
bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm
why is arete town?
I just get the sense they're the reasonable sounding wolf who is not actually that villagy once you step back and think about it
it’s possible i was too quick to call arete villagery for that one post, dunno
where are you at on visor? some of his posts gave me those “reasonable wolf” vibes but others seemed fine
the prophecy has been fulfilled, someone asked me or visor to give a read on the other d1 out of the blue
I think his posts are ~fine and i haven't seen anything troubling but he's not blowing my socks off or anything. It's been a very long time since I've seen him wolf in a normal game but I imagine the d1 is not going to look too drastically different either way.
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:18 amI've been thinking about Zack lately (no sexual).
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:23 pm
"the prophecy has been fulfilled, someone asked me or visor to give a read on the other d1 out of the blue"
whats your read on bronana, bronana
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:18 amI've been thinking about Zack lately (no sexual).
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:23 pm
"the prophecy has been fulfilled, someone asked me or visor to give a read on the other d1 out of the blue"
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:23 pm
"the prophecy has been fulfilled, someone asked me or visor to give a read on the other d1 out of the blue"
whats your read on bronana, bronana
almost verbatim what your read is on me lmao
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:18 amI've been thinking about Zack lately (no sexual).
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:59 pm
@dyachei What is your read on me?
Can you talk about how Alison is your top scum read when she has only 7 posts in the game? I'm not saying it's wrong, and I you probably have talked a lot about it, but if you would restate, I'd appreciate. I did read Alison's ISO btw.
I really like tangy's read of you. I think you've come into the thread with low expectations and have outperformed them to a ridiculous amount. I don't really agree with you on gavial because it seems like he's being antitown at minimum if not outright wolfy. But i think your process feels right to me
i also know that you can be a scary wolf. So i'm calling you light v but I've got the fear
i dunno why but the bolded line feels wolfy to me
just seems kinda fake and like you’re saying stuff you think you should say
but now that i write out this post i don’t really feel strongly about it, meh
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:23 pm
"the prophecy has been fulfilled, someone asked me or visor to give a read on the other d1 out of the blue"
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:11 pm
I could just be scared of Amy pulling the wool over my eyes like in the voxx 9er, hehe, but I'm not feeling it yet. Can someone talk to me about why she's town?
I think her naked voting me earlier was thinly villagery
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
I'm feeling a little disconnected from the game since a lot of people aren't settling into the roles I'm familiar with and unusually for me I don't have any strong reads yet. So I'm going to start from anchors I'm more confident about and extrapolate from there.
I've seen a little questioning of my suspicion that scum is trying to bulldoze nutella early on. Part of this is based off what I said above - starting from points I'm confident on and branching out from there, and another part is that the speed and force of the wagon, along with the seeming camaraderie of those on it, drew my eye as unnatural. My suspicion of zack's "pillar of the town" statement is an extension of this. I also note that some people have said I misunderstood/misread who he was saying were the pillars of the town, and I'll look back on that and give you updated thoughts.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:00 pm
sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery
where's your head at hally? feel like i've seen you townread a bunch of people and wolfread seth, any other people you think are worth looking into as possibly being of the lupine persuasion?
generally i think most people are varying degrees of fine and the only person i really wolf read is gavial, yeah
not inspiring but shrug, i didn’t expect to get wolf reads easily in this playerlist
Hally wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:00 pm
sunbae’s whole sequence re: spf’s guide was villagery
where's your head at hally? feel like i've seen you townread a bunch of people and wolfread seth, any other people you think are worth looking into as possibly being of the lupine persuasion?
generally i think most people are varying degrees of fine and the only person i really wolf read is gavial, yeah
not inspiring but shrug, i didn’t expect to get wolf reads easily in this playerlist
Of Gavial is wolf they should live. This is your first mistake =p
outed wolf wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:42 am
few things:
1) think nutellas knee jerk reaction (and it is a knee jerk imo - seems obv and the justification locks it in) to a tangrowth push is probably the villageriest thing she has going for her. spf is obv right on nutellas posts earlier (just wanted to note this for posterity). i understand the emotion reads but i feel they are kinda lame and assume that nutella cant get annoyed as a wolf.
2) gavial votes, my understanding of their play means they (votes) seem fine but obv see how it plays out
3) dont think the tangrowth push by arete is wolfy and i understand how someone could get there, i entertained a brief push there earlier but i believe it is more likely to be tangrowth getting into ww after being out for a bit regardless of alignmnet (though i dont fault anyone for not buyin that)
4) go rams
5) if that alison post is real and not just haha faking xd its bizarre. like just straight up you cannot believe that as a villager
I think this post is decently townie.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Tangrowth wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:35 am
What’s villagery about that Arete post, Hally?
i think the first paragraph re: you responding to arete and apologizing to them as though you had TMI that they’re a villager is a villagery thing for arete to think
it’s not unfakeable and i have no idea what their wolf range is, but it struck me as genuine
Thank you!
(More generally, to you or anyone) in the future thank you for answering any of my questions, I may not get around to expressing it due to the post cap.
As for the Alison thought, I don’t find it an unbelievable thing for Alison to genuinely think. She sometimes has some pretty strongly delivered takes that struck me as... notable (for lack of a better term) in a similar way.
is this a polite way of saying my reads are usually bad
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm
it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her
towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.
interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV
any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy
nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p
didn’t you make this read almost word for word D1 of CoV?
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:47 pm
it's super frustrating to finally rand town in a game with visor and zack and have them not even explain their shitty reads on me
there's not much to say and i don't want to get into a fight about it, you just don't seem like town dya so far I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
what are your three strongest reads in either direction?
alison most wolfy - have talked about her
towniest is probably tangy. I had them as sort of towny before but I liked their wall, too. I just think there was a lot of detail in there that wouldn't be if he were a wolf?
I didn't care for alison's posts either, but I know from past experience with her as v/v (admittedly small sample) that I find a non-trivial part of her approach to the game somewhat alien. She's also barely posted and it was all on page 1/2 iirc, hoping to get a better handle on her when she returns.
interesting, I did like tangy's wall and possibly am being unfair with her. lol maybe i'm just used to getting an extensive sampling of 500 posts where i can immerse myself in her mindset and see the villagy POV
any thoughts on amy, nutella, or gavial?
i have amy as probably villa. It's kind of a feel thing with amy
nutella actually feels wrong to me. I know I was fucking around with you guys when I said her posts aren't bad yet...but they haven't been good either. I'm not getting that v nutella tone I'm used to seeing. She kind of feels like she did in the game where she was 3p
didn’t you make this read almost word for word D1 of CoV?
But more seriously I think you're overestimating how bad the take was because from your POV the nutella push was clean and well-reasoned which probably makes this one of the few times I'll townread someone for TMI-ing themselves.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:06 pm
I forgot gavial but I sort of touched on it in my reply to dizzy. gav is playing an antitown game at minimum but I'm not really sure what that means for his alignment
i don’t really think he’s being anti-town? or at least not actively so. that would require him to be doing something
how much experience do you have with him? why is he “anti-town” as opposed to “wolfy”?
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:56 am
Alison's post wasn't super great - where she basically accused people of trying to get an easy mis-elim on nutella. Not necessarily because it's within the first 3 hours, but because it feels like TMI on nut. But lets say I'm wrong there...she still left the thread shortly after with no other insight. The alison i know usually has other thoughts on the game.
You're right, I usually have more thoughts on the game. I don't this game though. I opened up by saying I had no reads which is pretty unusual for me.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
there's a small voice in the back of my head that's telling me w!hally would fake having more wolfreads than they're currently repping (which afaik is just gavial)
dyachei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:56 am
Alison's post wasn't super great - where she basically accused people of trying to get an easy mis-elim on nutella. Not necessarily because it's within the first 3 hours, but because it feels like TMI on nut. But lets say I'm wrong there...she still left the thread shortly after with no other insight. The alison i know usually has other thoughts on the game.
You're right, I usually have more thoughts on the game. I don't this game though. I opened up by saying I had no reads which is pretty unusual for me.
what about this game has been particularly difficult for you to parse?
i think we can both agree that you typically have very strong opinions on mafia and i'm just as surprised as you are at your lack of reads, if not moreso
I doubt you will go down today while Gav exists, if you're town I should get there in time.
