Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol

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ilario has zero on-topic content. Kill him.

Mindmeld. Also Sabi is mafia. get them.

You right.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Sabi didn't even respond to my question earlier ;_;

I haven't read the last 20 pages what have I missed?

@Sabiplz are you powerwolfing this game?

@Sabiplz

Guillo null
Neon slight v
lucy slight v
sig v
Sabi null
Creature slight w
Rask slight v


Here are some reads I have from the last page or so because I refuse to backread further.

I actually find this progression extremely wolfy. Marmot pivoted off this vote, null read Sabi, voted Neon and then never really looked at sabi again. He pocketed nutella by shielding her and then Nutella shielded him lol. @nutella you're a noob. This guy is a wolf.

Is this the ISO?

Since it really doesn’t seem that damning honestly

[EnderWiggin]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

[Golden]

For me the town core is:

Mac, Alison, neon, nutella, falcon and maaaaybe Sloonei. Others would probably add Urist.

My ‘I would add them but many would disagree’ list is: Kate, scotty, Lily.

I will say that Mac/Neon/Nutella/Falcon is about my central towncore + two others not mentioned.

Why Sloonei/Urist?

Alison I have liked more recently but I have personal reason to be tinfoily. But I'm not pushing it rn.

Kate/Scotty? Elaborate for me? (Unless you've already elaborated in which case I'll find it on catchup)

Lily is town yus.

I couldn’t tell you why Urist, I’m not town reading him.

Sloonei is low impact but he has these pop ins that are like the old hand dispensing their wisdom, that feel townie to me. But maybe that less consensus.

I’ve explained by town read on Kate a couple of times, you can find it in my iso if you need to (explained to Seanzie and Mac specifically). Scotty I just have good vibes, especially around the iawy kill.

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Also we’re all operating as if Sabie was voted off so how accurate can these spew clears be when they were instead shot?

[Dyslexicon]

@EnderWiggin I don't have much to ask you or say, I think. I'd point out again I think Scotty is town because I believe him about his vig shot being silent.

[Golden]

ilario has zero on-topic content. Kill him.

Mindmeld. Also Sabi is mafia. get them.

You right.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Sabi didn't even respond to my question earlier ;_;

I haven't read the last 20 pages what have I missed?

@Sabiplz are you powerwolfing this game?

@Sabiplz

Guillo null
Neon slight v
lucy slight v
sig v
Sabi null
Creature slight w
Rask slight v


Here are some reads I have from the last page or so because I refuse to backread further.

I actually find this progression extremely wolfy. Marmot pivoted off this vote, null read Sabi, voted Neon and then never really looked at sabi again. He pocketed nutella by shielding her and then Nutella shielded him lol. @nutella you're a noob. This guy is a wolf.

Is this the ISO?

Since it really doesn’t seem that damning honestly

Mac, me, svs all did some marmot reading

[Dyslexicon]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

Wolves do have hairy faces.

[Dyslexicon]

Sometimes even non-players make posts!

JIMMMAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY <3

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin I don't have much to ask you or say, I think. I'd point out again I think Scotty is town because I believe him about his vig shot being silent.

I agree it was silent.

However announcing it could be a ploy to look towny?

Scotty hovers in a spot where they're not my number 1 target but I refuse to take them out of my POE.

[Golden]

Also we’re all operating as if Sabie was voted off so how accurate can these spew clears be when they were instead shot?

Explain? I don’t get why that makes a difference? Aren’t you more likely to spew when you’re not under elim threat?

[Dyslexicon]

I will feel the most offended if Urist flips mafia tbh

[Party Crasher]

Sometimes even non-players make posts!

shut up

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ilario has zero on-topic content. Kill him.

Mindmeld. Also Sabi is mafia. get them.

You right.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Sabi didn't even respond to my question earlier ;_;

I haven't read the last 20 pages what have I missed?

@Sabiplz are you powerwolfing this game?

@Sabiplz

Guillo null
Neon slight v
lucy slight v
sig v
Sabi null
Creature slight w
Rask slight v


Here are some reads I have from the last page or so because I refuse to backread further.

I actually find this progression extremely wolfy. Marmot pivoted off this vote, null read Sabi, voted Neon and then never really looked at sabi again. He pocketed nutella by shielding her and then Nutella shielded him lol. @nutella you're a noob. This guy is a wolf.

Is this the ISO?

Since it really doesn’t seem that damning honestly

Mac, me, svs all did some marmot reading

Okay, well I’ll sheep the read if that’s the direction town is going in.


I’m just not really seeing it, but I’m also not going to pretend to be as engaged as I usually am either

[EnderWiggin]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

He isnt being towny but he doesnt have an agenda yet.

...

What.

Lmao.

[Golden]

ilario has zero on-topic content. Kill him.

Mindmeld. Also Sabi is mafia. get them.

You right.

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Sabi didn't even respond to my question earlier ;_;

I haven't read the last 20 pages what have I missed?

@Sabiplz are you powerwolfing this game?

@Sabiplz

Guillo null
Neon slight v
lucy slight v
sig v
Sabi null
Creature slight w
Rask slight v


Here are some reads I have from the last page or so because I refuse to backread further.

I actually find this progression extremely wolfy. Marmot pivoted off this vote, null read Sabi, voted Neon and then never really looked at sabi again. He pocketed nutella by shielding her and then Nutella shielded him lol. @nutella you're a noob. This guy is a wolf.

Is this the ISO?

Since it really doesn’t seem that damning honestly

Mac, me, svs all did some marmot reading

Okay, well I’ll sheep the read if that’s the direction town is going in.


I’m just not really seeing it, but I’m also not going to pretend to be as engaged as I usually am either

It’s still early days, counterpoints are valuable

[EnderWiggin]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

Read how frustrated Sabi gets interacting with Falcon.

Also just Falcon's off the wall takes are more his town play.

[S~V~S]

Well, this turned out to not be true.

I just voted Cape90 on the poll, I was thinking I did it 2 hours ago when I posted about it but apparently nope.

@lucy: can you give me your thoughts on him? (particularly his last read list)

Voting in the thread, but not in the poll.

You're wolfing my dude.

I'm at Friday PM now, and they've put forth their first major ping, Creature.

They got between Sabi and Lucy who were kinda "fuck offing" each other. NAI, Marmot's a person who doesn't love conflict, imo.

Made a soft push towards Dennis, but backed off pretty much immediately. Not sure if this is AI or not?

Something I noticed, Dennis seemed a lot more content talking/joking with Kate, than anyone else itt earlier.

I don't really think that's AI though, unless they're exactly wolf partners together like they were in Cartomancy

i mean i guess that makes sense regardless. i do tr kate and would put some weight on her read of dennis too

(I forgot to add) Dennis was reluctant to sign up for this game given the size.


Why do people scumread Dennis? I missed all of that content.

I did agree with Marmot 100% here, I didn't really see it either. *Waits for someone to yell "Pocketing! TMI!" at me.

Someone earlier said that Marmot and Sabi have a sup0er close relationship? They ask Sabis opinion quite a bit, is this NAI given that?

Here Marmot says he's concerned about Sabi, implying Sabi could be bad. I'm guessing that means the same as "worried"?

I should do some work

bbl

Sabi if you get a chance could you please take respond to my read questions on Creature and sig? Or point me to your explanations if I missed them. I'm a little concerned about you atm, but I also want to give you space to solve and hope I can find you if you're town.

I just pulled this because Mac called them a "flippin merman" which I found hilarious. A bit later Marmot called Mac a "flippin Mermac" which was also hilarious.

I'm not really feeling a Creature vote atm.

Who else should I vote?

why don't you assess the game and choose a nice vote that makes ppl go hoo and has instead of trying to get someone to tell you somewhere to vote you flippin merman

Thanks, I'll try.

He made a few temp votes, made a case on Cape. He wishied, he washied, which is not totally fair, since I did pretty much quite a bit of the same, tbh.

All in all, I was fairly convinced by the bit with Neon (who I had forgotten had been a woof in Holes) who came out of it very civ, marmot not so much.

Gonna [VOTE: Marmot ] aubergine for now, they haven't been in here all day and I'd like to hear what they say.

@Dyslexicon Sure it's fair. I have been flying low, and not playing at the level I am capable of. Plus I know it's cheesy and weak, two things I dislike, especially in myself, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the massiveness of this thread the first few (calendar) days. I tend to be a meta player, and all the people I didn't know flinging suspish at other people I didn't know for reasons I didn't understand kinda made me freeze a bit. I think I'm starting to find my feet, though.

I'm gonna eat dinner and keep reading, bbl.

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Also we’re all operating as if Sabie was voted off so how accurate can these spew clears be when they were instead shot?

Explain? I don’t get why that makes a difference? Aren’t you more likely to spew when you’re not under elim threat?

I mean maybe?

I guess what I’m saying is we’re clearing people off Sabi which too a degree I agree with, but also they werent being heavily suspected by many people so I don’t think we should put too much stock in the clearing side.

I think the mafia side holds more value, but without seeing any real big pushes or wagonnomics I’d not assign too much town credit

[Creature]

Still no more flips since IAWY? Lame

[Golden]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

If anyone is truly cleared by sabi it’s Falcon I think. There’s still lost wolf risk etc

[EnderWiggin]

Tbh I keep forgetting falcon is in the game. Maybe a similar drop-off concern there where I thought he had enough towny moments d1 but isn't keeping it up

Is Falcon dropping off?

Yes.

Congratulations, Falcon is playing mafia.

(No hate, is joke. <3 Falcon)

[Dyslexicon]

@EnderWiggin I don't have much to ask you or say, I think. I'd point out again I think Scotty is town because I believe him about his vig shot being silent.

I agree it was silent.

However announcing it could be a ploy to look towny?

Scotty hovers in a spot where they're not my number 1 target but I refuse to take them out of my POE.

I guess. But I assume that Lucy was a mafia shot, so it kind of shows mafia going for that already. But it could have been an independent decision or just a something that happened for no reason. I just don't feel like it's likely that Scotty does it.

[Dyslexicon]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

If anyone is truly cleared by sabi it’s Falcon I think. There’s still lost wolf risk etc

I must have missed this. What is clearing?

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Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

If anyone is truly cleared by sabi it’s Falcon I think. There’s still lost wolf risk etc

Don’t the lost wolf usually know they’re a wolf but jus can’t communicate with team members

[EnderWiggin]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

If anyone is truly cleared by sabi it’s Falcon I think. There’s still lost wolf risk etc

Oh yeah we know there's a lost wolf in the setup so ofc Falc could be lost wolf.

But not paired with Sabi so not found wolf iyam

[Dyslexicon]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

Read how frustrated Sabi gets interacting with Falcon.

Also just Falcon's off the wall takes are more his town play.

Oh the volume clear thing. Ok, I agree.

[EnderWiggin]

By "know" I mean "Nanook's opener heavily implies it so I'm assuming it to be fact so I don't get blindsided."

[EnderWiggin]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

I have a strong impression I picked up what I thought was lost wolf signals from Rondo earlier.

I'll go back and check.

[EnderWiggin]

@Alison you are the one protecting Guillo so can you please make it your job to control the impact hes having on the threadstate?

This is funny. The only way to tame me is by killing my wim with personal attacks. Nothing else can control me. The only other option is death.

Why arent you pushing me for an elimination when you have had nothing but shade on regards of me?

Scared?

I do not find this a towny post. Perhaps people who know guillo more can elaborate

Welcome to Guillo 101. This is an NAI post.

[Dyslexicon]

@Dyslexicon Sure it's fair. I have been flying low, and not playing at the level I am capable of. Plus I know it's cheesy and weak, two things I dislike, especially in myself, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the massiveness of this thread the first few (calendar) days. I tend to be a meta player, and all the people I didn't know flinging suspish at other people I didn't know for reasons I didn't understand kinda made me freeze a bit. I think I'm starting to find my feet, though.

I'm gonna eat dinner and keep reading, bbl.

I can definitely understand getting overwhelmed, that's completely valid. Just keep on keeping on. I'm happy to finally play a game with you in any case, as I've seen you around and you're on of the OGs. ^^

[EnderWiggin]

I feel like Seanzie can't wolf and is floundering in a way that heavily implies he's not his town self.

Agree

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

so if Sean is a wolf and I am a wolf what do I have in my benefit for pointing out he is strange day 1 before anyone else? :wowee:

[EnderWiggin]

Unrelated to this post, its just something I thought of when I saw Dyslexicons profile picture. Has Ender done anything back and forth with Dys? Point against if not because by now they should have sorted each other out and I have seen nothing and I have read the whole game bar catching up today

Yeah, I haven't actually sorted Ender. But some of the things he posts makes me feel sane and hopeful.

So you two are paired? Got it

It's true, Dizzy is actually my Mason.

[Seanzie]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

Yes.

[EnderWiggin]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

so if Sean is a wolf and I am a wolf what do I have in my benefit for pointing out he is strange day 1 before anyone else? :wowee:

Rondo subtly bussing his teammates D1 explicitly because it makes no logical sense to do so just so he can point it out later?

That'd neeeeever happen.

[EnderWiggin]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

Yes.

Oh no.

Anyway.

Help me bus our partner.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

Read how frustrated Sabi gets interacting with Falcon.

Also just Falcon's off the wall takes are more his town play.

I got frustrated with falcon as town/town last game we were in, that is... .maybe you have a point. But I already thought Falcon was town

[Dyslexicon]

It's way past my bedtime. I'll see you all some time tomorrow. I'm happy I signed up for this game, no matter how this all turns out in the end. Good night!

[Dyslexicon]

Listen to Ender. Ender is smart and has a very big toe.

Also listen to Mac and Nut.

And listen to your heart, most importantly!

[EnderWiggin]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

Read how frustrated Sabi gets interacting with Falcon.

Also just Falcon's off the wall takes are more his town play.

I got frustrated with falcon as town/town last game we were in, that is... .maybe you have a point. But I already thought Falcon was town

I...

What.

What point does this post have?

"I got frustrated as town/town with Falcon when we're talking about a wolf getting frustrated with Falcon this game"

Que?

[EnderWiggin]

Listen to Ender. Ender is smart and has a very big toe.

Also listen to Mac and Nut.

And listen to your heart, most importantly!

The pocket is so fuzzyyyyy

[RondoDimBuckle]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

I have a strong impression I picked up what I thought was lost wolf signals from Rondo earlier.

I'll go back and check.

Spoiler: show

BIG SMIRK

But why would wolf rondo that is lost be power wolfing to the point where he gets Ender Wiggin the person who can read him best to read him as lost wolf?

Spoiler: show

Nothing here, made you look

[EnderWiggin]

idk if i 100% trust dizzy but yeah i do like that post

if dizzy flips wolf I look here next if not Mac

You're literally attacking my towncore now.

Lmao.

[falcon45ca]

Why isn't Porscha a wagon?




[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

Whoever said Falcon was town, can they elaborate? I don't know how to read Falcon at all, and I frequently forget he is playing. No shade.

Read how frustrated Sabi gets interacting with Falcon.

Also just Falcon's off the wall takes are more his town play.

I got frustrated with falcon as town/town last game we were in, that is... .maybe you have a point. But I already thought Falcon was town

I...

What.

What point does this post have?

"I got frustrated as town/town with Falcon when we're talking about a wolf getting frustrated with Falcon this game"

Que?

Rondo is quite likely scum

[RondoDimBuckle]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

so if Sean is a wolf and I am a wolf what do I have in my benefit for pointing out he is strange day 1 before anyone else? :wowee:

Rondo subtly bussing his teammates D1 explicitly because it makes no logical sense to do so just so he can point it out later?

That'd neeeeever happen.

Subtle? I tried to turn the whole thread on him for NOT sussing me

[falcon45ca]

Oh, you're voting him already. So you know

[EnderWiggin]

Yes. I was leaning Ender town for a bit now I am back to him being lost wolf.

Why lost wolf, specifically?

Because Rondo is lost wolf who has been signalling all game

Yeah, I was thinking that too.

I have a strong impression I picked up what I thought was lost wolf signals from Rondo earlier.

I'll go back and check.

Spoiler: show

BIG SMIRK

But why would wolf rondo that is lost be power wolfing to the point where he gets Ender Wiggin the person who can read him best to read him as lost wolf?

Spoiler: show

Nothing here, made you look

Why would Rondo Dimbuckle (Esq.), lord of being smug, judge of a forgotten village, last heir of the third fleet, coddler of orphans, and all around dickwad, do such a thing?

I guess it shalt be lost to history. Praise Rondo.

[nutella]

Okay, well I’ll sheep the read if that’s the direction town is going in.


I’m just not really seeing it, but I’m also not going to pretend to be as engaged as I usually am either

Sir what on earth

[EnderWiggin]

Mechanically speaking, there should be wolf among Neon, Alison and Sean, if they are all claiming some sort of town vig? And I don't think it's Neon. So that's a thing.

At the same time, assuming mechanics in Nook's game is a bit wowee.

Is it bad if I just assume Sean is wolf anyway? :wowee:

so if Sean is a wolf and I am a wolf what do I have in my benefit for pointing out he is strange day 1 before anyone else? :wowee:

Rondo subtly bussing his teammates D1 explicitly because it makes no logical sense to do so just so he can point it out later?

That'd neeeeever happen.

Subtle? I tried to turn the whole thread on him for NOT sussing me

Subtle.