Game of Champions 2022 mafia win lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
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Yes, I've been feeling this vote for a while. Lily was in my personal 5-person PoE for the day. I'd still be fairly happy with 112 going but there'll probably be a vig opportunity for that.
Yes, I've been feeling this vote for a while. Lily was in my personal 5-person PoE for the day. I'd still be fairly happy with 112 going but there'll probably be a vig opportunity for that.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
Because as demonstrated already when push comes to shove people will just vote elsewhere on a whim and I'll get left choosing with townie to kill. And we are winning anyway. It's a pointless distraction at this point that's most likely only going to end up with the townier POE members not making reads or voting where they want to be.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:41 pmwe have a one time protection from all death including chopMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:36 pmDoes your role PM actually use the word bulletproof vest in it?Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:21 amSo basically either we're not town or we don't have a bulletproof vest?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:34 am You are a hydra, in the game of champions, comprised of a group of players that didn't win a game in 2022, which is the prerequisite to entry into the game, with the name Party Crasher, and you have a bulletproof vest and you're town?
This is your story, and at least some part of it is a lie. I refuse to believe the above to be a truthful statement.
well.
it sounds suboptimal to not use your ability as extra kp every day. it's like we have 2 chops. why not make use of it for no reason? if the pool of people voting you is small then it can be bad. but why not force (gently ask) consensus poe to vote you? for instance if we can convince 112 to vote you - why not shoot her?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:54 pm @Scotty @Michelle @Party Crasher don't vote me find wolves.
Don't worry about voting me today let's just try to win the game.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
I’ll iso her next. She’s in the mix of those generally townread but I don’t know whyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:39 pm I have decided it's time for lilypetal to depart the game.
Sorry dear. All love.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
@falcon45ca what about my case on you is laughable
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Who is ZeusMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pmHonestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.
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Not that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.
Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.
Vote Lily like a true pro.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
One of the PC heads.Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:47 pmWho is ZeusMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pmHonestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.
Michelle doesn't bus btw. Like ever. It's not in her wolf playstyle to a completely lock reliable degree.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
Lily is scummy but her votes are good and I doubt the soup mafia has *another* KP on top of Seanzie (if Lily's claim is true, anyway).
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
in case you were talking about thisMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:12 pm @Golden can you reiterate how Sig might have killed teammate Alison by mistake again please?
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... =#p1017566
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
@Lilypetal you really don't like to play mafia when you rand mafia do you lol
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
FWIW I read right through all the posts you've quoted, because I'm interested in fresh eyes on Falcon.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:25 pm Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.
As I was reading through I was like:
"Oh, not team with sabi.
Not team with lily.
Not team with Sean..."
I actually think a lily wolf flip would be perhaps fully clearing of falcon from your chosen quotes.
Anyway, I came away with a different take of those posts. So, my take is I think you could be confbiasing. Or maybe it's me who is.
It would be interesting to do an Alison read looking for how she handled falcon but I don't have time for that.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
I pulled all his interactions with confirmed mafia and posted them in the spoiler, and read them all in order as I sorted for progression.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:48 pmNot that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.
Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.
Vote Lily like a true pro.
Sounds like you’re confbiasing your town read of him.
But I’ll admit I’m known to confbias with my cases. I just want to know if anyone else sees what I’m seeing
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
k perhaps it’s just meGolden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:51 pmFWIW I read right through all the posts you've quoted, because I'm interested in fresh eyes on Falcon.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:25 pm Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.
As I was reading through I was like:
"Oh, not team with sabi.
Not team with lily.
Not team with Sean..."
I actually think a lily wolf flip would be perhaps fully clearing of falcon from your chosen quotes.
Anyway, I came away with a different take of those posts. So, my take is I think you could be confbiasing. Or maybe it's me who is.
It would be interesting to do an Alison read looking for how she handled falcon but I don't have time for that.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Yes this is definitely true. Michelle was OK with me bussing when we were wolves together in the sense that she could see that when I did it, it was improving our win equity. And she did sort of bus Quin at the end when she absolutely had to. But she still didn't enjoy any of that stuff. It's not her preference or desire at all.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:49 pmOne of the PC heads.Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:47 pmWho is ZeusMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pmHonestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.
Michelle doesn't bus btw. Like ever. It's not in her wolf playstyle to a completely lock reliable degree.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
Day 1 voted Iawy
Day 2 voted Seanzie who had other mafia voting him
Don't think her votes are remotely clearing. If you read her iso she voted heaps of town throughout the game.
She also shielded mafia.
She also has no wim.
Shes mafia. Probably soup mafia.
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KMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:53 pmDay 1 voted Iawy
Day 2 voted Seanzie who had other mafia voting him
Don't think her votes are remotely clearing. If you read her iso she voted heaps of town throughout the game.
She also shielded mafia.
She also has no wim.
Shes mafia. Probably soup mafia.
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Yes... I literally said that.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:51 pmI pulled all his interactions with confirmed mafia and posted them in the spoiler, and read them all in order as I sorted for progression.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:48 pmNot that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.
Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.
Vote Lily like a true pro.
Sounds like you’re confbiasing your town read of him.
But I’ll admit I’m known to confbias with my cases. I just want to know if anyone else sees what I’m seeing
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oh yeah I’m just agreeing with your self takeMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:54 pmYes... I literally said that.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:51 pmI pulled all his interactions with confirmed mafia and posted them in the spoiler, and read them all in order as I sorted for progression.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:48 pmNot that you asked me but I found it very unreasonable and confbiased. You pulled heaps of things that I read in Falcon's favour and either called them scummy or dismissed their validity entirely just so you could maintain your read lol.
Fwiw I'm doing the same cuz I'm confbiasing you as wrong cuz of my townread but hey we're all hoomanz.
Vote Lily like a true pro.
Sounds like you’re confbiasing your town read of him.
But I’ll admit I’m known to confbias with my cases. I just want to know if anyone else sees what I’m seeing

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I feel really good about the lily vote.
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Ugh
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
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i have a silly townread on lily due to tone, shouldnt be taken seriously. i prefer 112 chop. might be modsquad. im voting for lily coz noone is voting 112 and i dont want guillo chop, he might get modkilled
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
it would be too fatalist except
a) Lily hates wolfing anyway and cannot match her town wim or tone as mafia
b) Wolves having no wim makes sense so
a) Lily hates wolfing anyway and cannot match her town wim or tone as mafia
b) Wolves having no wim makes sense so
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It feels too easy!!
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I really just hopped on this carriage ride and had a great time with no hardships
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
To furter explain I think bussing is boring. I prefer to keep my team as a whole and have fun togetherGolden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:52 pmYes this is definitely true. Michelle was OK with me bussing when we were wolves together in the sense that she could see that when I did it, it was improving our win equity. And she did sort of bus Quin at the end when she absolutely had to. But she still didn't enjoy any of that stuff. It's not her preference or desire at all.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:49 pmOne of the PC heads.Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:47 pmWho is ZeusMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pmHonestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.
Michelle doesn't bus btw. Like ever. It's not in her wolf playstyle to a completely lock reliable degree.

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teamwork sucks. i'm more of a lone wolf, so to speak.
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While this can be true, and we never know before the actual flip what will happen, we have to clear the Poe and think after
Mafia is sometimes easy, you know?
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Looking through Alison’s iso with regards to falcon and Lily.
Alison only mentions Lily in regards to defending her slightly and using her as a jumping off point to make golden look suspect. Never mentions falcon D1
Top of D2 I found this post interesting in isolation;
Also this lol Nostradamus claim:
Anyway, she never mentioned falcon -once- in her iso. She only mentioned Lily as a means to shade golden.
Both are firmly compatible in regards to Alison spew
Alison only mentions Lily in regards to defending her slightly and using her as a jumping off point to make golden look suspect. Never mentions falcon D1
Top of D2 I found this post interesting in isolation;
Makes me think there is no soup kill or else why even postulate that?
Also this lol Nostradamus claim:
Anyway, moving towards end:
This post makes me feel GREAT about both SVS and 112. Alison had been making a point to try and clear Seanzie around this time to make a more viable wagon, and naming one or more of her partners probably isn’t likely.
Anyway, she never mentioned falcon -once- in her iso. She only mentioned Lily as a means to shade golden.
Both are firmly compatible in regards to Alison spew
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When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
However, when you solve the game with a strong towncore, sometimes the game does feel too easy but the solve is also correct.
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MR's tone before dying was virtually identical to Lilypetal's and he flipped mafia.
HK was an easy choice. Flipped 3p.
Townies are doing well. The Alison vig shot is probably back breaking.
HK was an easy choice. Flipped 3p.
Townies are doing well. The Alison vig shot is probably back breaking.
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I guess there's nothing really stopping sig from being mod squad with KP. The Alison shot really felt like it came from non town to me and I doubt I'm ever going to shake that feeling. Sig's posts in claiming it also felt kinda awkward and not really townie.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
But then again this interaction feels like it maked Lily never with Sabi lol. @PorschaLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:21 amMy point is that 3p porscha wouldn't struggle to post. This is a read that makes no sense to me and is either TMI'ing her not a wolf for her flip from whatever neon did to her or sorta game related fluff to throw out there to seem townySabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:19 amBecause Porscha feels alone in the thread. Her posting doesn't have agenda but it's still struggle posting. Before her current pop in it was pretty stiff.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D1
Why? Two wolves arguing over whether porscha's behaviour is 3p indicative? Doesn't feel like it excludes w/w to me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:30 pmBut then again this interaction feels like it maked Lily never with Sabi lol. @PorschaLilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:21 amMy point is that 3p porscha wouldn't struggle to post. This is a read that makes no sense to me and is either TMI'ing her not a wolf for her flip from whatever neon did to her or sorta game related fluff to throw out there to seem townySabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:19 amBecause Porscha feels alone in the thread. Her posting doesn't have agenda but it's still struggle posting. Before her current pop in it was pretty stiff.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
That's exactly the kind of convo I engage in with teamies to make it seem like we aren't paired.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
The agenda-based aspect would be that I often don't thread develop my reads, in any game of Mafia I play. You've played w/ me at least twice, so you know.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:40 pmI mean, the plan was to iso you anyway. Me asking the thread why you were townread was to get a preamble.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:30 pmI literally told you to ISO me, this is false.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:25 pm Ok I finally perused falcon’s ISO in regards to sabi, Alison and MR. Here’s the summary of posts and my takeaways below:To start, falcon has been off and on suspicious of all 4 soup mafia at various points in the game.Spoiler: show
However.
His suspicion on D1 for Alison and sabi is softballing it at best. He had a back and forth with sabi for like 4 posts which prompted Sabi to question why he was so ‘obsessed’ with them. Maybe a bit of an overreaction on their part. But sure.
We never circle back on sabi or Alison however. Falcon does call them both ‘wolf’ with a certain air of jokiness D1. But there is never developed reads, and he freely pivots to voting elsewhere throughout the day.
D2 is marginally better. The posts they stand out positively:
“ This take of Alison's seems overtly manufactured”
“ Going thru Alison's ISO, I saw that she gave a lot of weight to Sabi's spew, w/o considering any anti-spew. Then she has this epiphany...it's a reasonable take, but then I have to ask myself "How often does Alison back off a tunnel so easily & readily?"”
RE: Seanzie: “I feel he's been present, and I think his engagement has been...safe”
As far as actually voting, I can’t pinpoint vote totals, but when he names his votes, he never actually votes for any of the soup mafia except MR beginning of D2, Seanzie end of D2, and MR again at top of today. MR is an undeveloped read that I don’t think had any traction to begin with. His continuation of MR today before being shot is likewise pretty shruggy and not built on anything stable.
Almost all his posts with Seanzie are joking or bouncing off ideas. It wasn’t until someone asked him about Seanzie that he admitted his posts look safe. And he only added on to the Seanzie wagon in the last 40 minutes of D2, so cred there is inconsequential.
I think the most bizarre progression in his iso is his light pressing of MR on both D2 and D3, never developing, and then immediately pivoting to an alternative for possible vig shots in Porscha on D2 and 112 on D3 for inactivity. Those seem to come out of nowhere, and the only time he talks about MR getting vig’d is when others have brought up the possibility.
Conclusion; i lean soup mafia partner. I don’t think I’m confbiasing- I picked falcon to read through because no one is really talking about him and I don’t remember his presence in the game. I think he is wholly compatible with the soup mafia and I’d vote there at the present based on my full perusal of his ISO. There is nothing clearing ISO-wise with the revealed mafia members.
The rest of your take is a mix between laughable and agenda-based.
Nothing agenda-based here brosef
I think I’m the only one currently suspecting you however
You mention I haven't voted all the soup Maf...except the 2 I did, and then of course the shade I had on the other 2....so that seems an agenda-based read, and not factual as well.
Also, while I was a later addition to Sean's wagon, I'm also pretty sure I'm the one who broke the 3 way 7 votes wagon tie.
I'm not lock town, but I'm certainly not anywhere near POE, especially given that I'm active during the game, and readily answer questions. Please link a Maf game of mine that mimics my play here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
Maybe we just kill Sloonei here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
I agree it isnt that clearing tbh I actually think it was a respectable comment to make like. Sabi was, imo, clearly misrepresenting my posting... if sabi had already been threatened by neon shot then wolves could have just agreed to give sabi up early and start distancing
I could see lily or myself if I were wolfing with sabi there to be the good cop (pushing a more objective truth) vs bad cop (sabi misrepping)
Hope that makes sense
Like I'm just a bit torn here in lily
When I said it's too easy... I was also implying that too easy isnt necessarily a good feeling to have... I'm worried lily is lhf cuz truth be told she isnt always interested in playing hard ok the early stages of larger games so it's hard for me to just pin a sense of lack of wim onto her
Maybe shes 3p or something... her ability could also still be "one time use" ... it sounds like she is able to mark 1 night and then on another night effectively use her ability. Like an arsonist (not saying she is an arsonist but that's the example I'm trying to make) and therefore even if she had, in theory, used it on sabi, it doesnt matter cuz she never was able to enact the second part of the ability
What does it mean for her? Idk
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
Lily iso:
Ok yea I’m on board with Lily as a vote. Very compatible.
-lack of wim after 3 caught wolves
-defending all her teammates
-even though she voted them at some point, and is trying to use that as cred
-but also using that as a reason why she’s wolf???
Also that yellow highlighted is a lol and might even be a slip since the soup mafia hadn’t been revealed yet.
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-lack of wim after 3 caught wolves
-defending all her teammates
-even though she voted them at some point, and is trying to use that as cred
-but also using that as a reason why she’s wolf???
Also that yellow highlighted is a lol and might even be a slip since the soup mafia hadn’t been revealed yet.
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not screaming like the people in his car
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
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Re: Game of Champions 2022 D3
I don't think I'm talking about some unique golden behaviour here, I think it's a universal approach to appearing town as wolf.