Art UPickish D3

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

also, what do you make of Zenon saying you’re probably bad since you haven’t OMGUS’d yet this game

I don't agree with their meta on me
it's too idk simplified/singular and fairly easy for me to abuse

it's probably an understandably Zenon thing to lean on though

[Lemonfairy]

Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy

hmmm so you're just voting the "best options" out of the low posters
I see

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

Got more of a reason this time?

if it's anything, I'd say it's your EOD
the flippity-floppity all over the place thing

it felt off
I can see it more from scum trying to look towny by flip-flopping (because they know it's a weird thing for scum to do) more than I can see it as you genuinely being waffly

[Lemonfairy]

I might have been looking through a slightly biased lens but idk, if you feel like running through what you were thinking there, I'd be happy to hear it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

also, what do you make of Zenon saying you’re probably bad since you haven’t OMGUS’d yet this game

I don't agree with their meta on me
it's too idk simplified/singular and fairly easy for me to abuse

it's probably an understandably Zenon thing to lean on though

I've found you correctly 2 games in a row since establishing this meta

[Seanzie]

i don't buy the kate green check for a second lol

It's not for sale

good thing im not buying it then

These things have a way to resolve. Falcon coming in on d2 with this after not outright saying it in his first post and having info that he did visit makes it far more likely Kate is town here. Not sold on falcon being town, but I think 9/10 Kate is just town here

Pretty sure Falcon is town.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

I'd elim this.

[Seanzie]

Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy

I also townlean Creature.

[Dubz]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

Got more of a reason this time?

if it's anything, I'd say it's your EOD
the flippity-floppity all over the place thing

it felt off
I can see it more from scum trying to look towny by flip-flopping (because they know it's a weird thing for scum to do) more than I can see it as you genuinely being waffly

Funny. That's how I felt about your votes, since you didn't say anything about why you were moving, and they happened right after someone else had moved.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

[potentialsheltervet]

@Kate is your case on genny that she is quite and was buddying with the art comments?

[potentialsheltervet]

*quiet, not quite

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

also, what do you make of Zenon saying you’re probably bad since you haven’t OMGUS’d yet this game

I don't agree with their meta on me
it's too idk simplified/singular and fairly easy for me to abuse

it's probably an understandably Zenon thing to lean on though

I've found you correctly 2 games in a row since establishing this meta

which isn't a very large sample size but up to you how you want to read me

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

Got more of a reason this time?

if it's anything, I'd say it's your EOD
the flippity-floppity all over the place thing

it felt off
I can see it more from scum trying to look towny by flip-flopping (because they know it's a weird thing for scum to do) more than I can see it as you genuinely being waffly

Funny. That's how I felt about your votes, since you didn't say anything about why you were moving, and they happened right after someone else had moved.

but I never tried to be townread from it

and I was moving around because I wanted spicy counterwagons
which did end up happening

slightly strange fmpov for you to say you felt I was doing the same as Scotty
could you clarify what exactly it felt like to you?

[Lemonfairy]

like yes, the switching votes thing was the same
but context was very different imo

[Lemonfairy]

Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy

I also townlean Creature.

isn't Creature dead?

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

I'd elim this.

likewise

[Lemonfairy]

actually, I'd go for Thunal first and then look at Seanzie again after if Thunal flips red
because it kind of reminds me of what Seanzie was doing to Epi in a previous game

[Dubz]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

Got more of a reason this time?

if it's anything, I'd say it's your EOD
the flippity-floppity all over the place thing

it felt off
I can see it more from scum trying to look towny by flip-flopping (because they know it's a weird thing for scum to do) more than I can see it as you genuinely being waffly

Funny. That's how I felt about your votes, since you didn't say anything about why you were moving, and they happened right after someone else had moved.

but I never tried to be townread from it

and I was moving around because I wanted spicy counterwagons
which did end up happening

slightly strange fmpov for you to say you felt I was doing the same as Scotty
could you clarify what exactly it felt like to you?

I'm not actually saying that I felt you were doing the same as Scotty. I'm saying I felt like you were doing what you've accused Scotty of. I can track why Scotty was switching votes, yours were floating on the breeze with no rhyme or reason. So fmpov it's really odd for you to sus him for that reason. If he made a towncred grab for it, I missed it.

What did you learn from those counterwagons?

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Is this the whole "creature is quiet and disengaged when scum" thing again?

bingo

as in

I literally could not believe it was that simple of a case last time

I am trying to do a better job of not playing 4d chess when I don't have to

ez early vote with little consequence and if he does flip scum later I'll look great

and if he doesn't who would really blame me

Btw this is why I roleblocked pyxxy last night. This post gave me a couple pings at the same time - "if he flips scum later I'll look great" and "if he doesn't who would really blame me". It's so self-conscious. Pyxxy wasn't concerned about being right, he was concerned about how he'd look.

Hello! Nice to meet you

I'll be catching up shortly but this is a reply/ping so you've earned first dibs.

I play like this. It's NAI. I think it's funny to do things like this where I'm clearly concerned about how I look in a manner that is overt because it's a stereotype that wolves are the only ones who care about how they look.

If I really cared, you would never know

Also........mech

[Lemonfairy]

I have a vague feeling of Scotty/Dubz/Seanzie/Thunal but my brain tells me that's too good to be true
and it probably is

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

Got more of a reason this time?

if it's anything, I'd say it's your EOD
the flippity-floppity all over the place thing

it felt off
I can see it more from scum trying to look towny by flip-flopping (because they know it's a weird thing for scum to do) more than I can see it as you genuinely being waffly

Funny. That's how I felt about your votes, since you didn't say anything about why you were moving, and they happened right after someone else had moved.

but I never tried to be townread from it

and I was moving around because I wanted spicy counterwagons
which did end up happening

slightly strange fmpov for you to say you felt I was doing the same as Scotty
could you clarify what exactly it felt like to you?

I'm not actually saying that I felt you were doing the same as Scotty. I'm saying I felt like you were doing what you've accused Scotty of. I can track why Scotty was switching votes, yours were floating on the breeze with no rhyme or reason. So fmpov it's really odd for you to sus him for that reason. If he made a towncred grab for it, I missed it.

What did you learn from those counterwagons?

I think he did but I'll go back and check later in case I misremembered

nothing much rn
but it might be interesting to look at later after more flips

[Lemonfairy]

lemon climbing up from a low poster to a mid poster within hours

wow
nice job lemon

[pyxxy]

My eyes are on Scotty after that EOD and Seanzie since he turned into the Creature CW.

What do you infer from my loosey goosey end of day?

I have absolutely no idea. My initial thought during EOD was maybe you were partners with Creature but clearly that wasn't it.

You know the feeling you get after seeing a rather obtuse movie with your friends and you all talk about how weird it was and no one can agree on what it was about and you’re making tuna casserole 4 days later when you suddenly get it?

That’s me. I’m the movie

nah you're the casserole

[Lemonfairy]

btw I donated my art to the museum because I love mountainous

jk
I had no idea what role to pick because I'm bad at decisions so I donated it for the greater good

[pyxxy]

Not good. Not good at all. People, right your course. I will help. I am pro-gaming.

me having a tough time getting my casino license

[Kate]

@Kate is your case on genny that she is quite and was buddying with the art comments?

Well I wouldn't exactly call it a case, it's more like a future feel on the ways I've seen her play before. I get the sense that she hides a bit as a baddie. Reread her face whole posts. See if you catch a vibe.

Last game I played over at sdn I thought you were bad, I even voted you twice and kept moving off bc I was out of my comfort zone and wouldn't trust my gut. I'm not going to do that again here. I have another post to show you. One sec.

[pyxxy]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

[potentialsheltervet]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

[potentialsheltervet]

@Kate is your case on genny that she is quite and was buddying with the art comments?

Well I wouldn't exactly call it a case, it's more like a future feel on the ways I've seen her play before. I get the sense that she hides a bit as a baddie. Reread her face whole posts. See if you catch a vibe.

Last game I played over at sdn I thought you were bad, I even voted you twice and kept moving off bc I was out of my comfort zone and wouldn't trust my gut. I'm not going to do that again here. I have another post to show you. One sec.

I'm not going to tell you not to follow your gut, but I will say genny is commonly miselimmed because lowposting is just... Genny. Town genny gets voted often because her activity is low and content can be hard to decipher (no shade, just a statement). So unless she is well paired with other scum or says outright scummy things, it's more of a coin flip imo and I don't have good luck with rng.
Like, there is nothing here to distinguish genny's aff one way or the other. She's just gennying around.
Idk. @Dubz you've played with genny a lot, too. Agree? Disagree?

[Kate]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

I'm still here probs
wouldn't mind Genny/Thunal

If the others are correct on lemon, this would be the post that won me over. It reads dishonestly. Its short and has no beef. Plus, he targets genny firat as a "possible" baddie in case she goes out, a little distance. Then throws in thurnal, who, if I'm correct with this theory would be civ cleared.

I have a vague feeling of Scotty/Dubz/Seanzie/Thunal but my brain tells me that's too good to be true
and it probably is

Very shortly thereafter, more suspects, but genny is gone. Why?
And there's thurnal again, but at the end of the list. Like he's putting him out there but not pushing him too hard.

If genny flips bad, I'd flip lemon next.

[Seanzie]

Some of the lowest posters are the ones with votes. The only other lower posters are falcon and creature, which I town lean on atm

I think lemon and genny just had mediocre D1’s and I wish them to post more. Pyxxy is just very blendy

I also townlean Creature.

isn't Creature dead?

Now you're getting it.

[Kate]

@Kate is your case on genny that she is quite and was buddying with the art comments?

Well I wouldn't exactly call it a case, it's more like a future feel on the ways I've seen her play before. I get the sense that she hides a bit as a baddie. Reread her face whole posts. See if you catch a vibe.

Last game I played over at sdn I thought you were bad, I even voted you twice and kept moving off bc I was out of my comfort zone and wouldn't trust my gut. I'm not going to do that again here. I have another post to show you. One sec.

I'm not going to tell you not to follow your gut, but I will say genny is commonly miselimmed because lowposting is just... Genny. Town genny gets voted often because her activity is low and content can be hard to decipher (no shade, just a statement). So unless she is well paired with other scum or says outright scummy things, it's more of a coin flip imo and I don't have good luck with rng.
Like, there is nothing here to distinguish genny's aff one way or the other. She's just gennying around.
Idk. @Dubz you've played with genny a lot, too. Agree? Disagree?

I don't think she's lowposting though, I think she's hiding. She's not in her home site, maybe a tad more guarded and is falling further into her extreme baddie meta like she did in crossover?

[Kate]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

I like this conversation a lot.

[Seanzie]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

I like this conversation a lot.

Elaborate.

[Kate]

lemon climbing up from a low poster to a mid poster within hours

wow
nice job lemon

*big squeeze*

[pyxxy]

In other news my ability is pride themed lol

nice

[Kate]

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

I like this conversation a lot.

Elaborate.

I don't know porscha that well but I'd like for those who do to come forward. For questioning.

[pyxxy]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

oh woops, I meant that reading through the NKA, I agree with Seanzie that Porscha dying is likely bc scum found her as obvtown

I'm less concerned about figuring out exactly "who knew her" as I gotta assume any scum team is large enough to have 1+

it's info best stored for later if/when we flip a few people that we don't think would have clapped Porscha N1

[pyxxy]

Oops I jumped off my buddy Dennis again, @Quin

oh? you were tight about this?

[Kate]

Porscha nk is confusing

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

oh woops, I meant that reading through the NKA, I agree with Seanzie that Porscha dying is likely bc scum found her as obvtown

I'm less concerned about figuring out exactly "who knew her" as I gotta assume any scum team is large enough to have 1+

it's info best stored for later if/when we flip a few people that we don't think would have clapped Porscha N1

Hmm. I'm not thrilled that you don't want to dig deeper, but at the same time you read civ here.

I'm undecided on you.

Since yall know who I am, I'm just gonna post all my thoughts instead of making notes.

[pyxxy]

Actually, I think pyxxy was the one I questioned whether they were voting creature due to the whole lowposting as wolf business
@pyxxy How do you feel now?

idr if I answered this already

I feel fine about Creature dying. In SDN crossover he got saved by partners, so maybe the lack of saving should have been a clue? otoh it's WIFOM, maybe if Creature was scum then his scummates just decide to bus him D1 since he already said he was busy/not thinking about this game.

Counter to what (Seanzie? iirc?) said, I think it's a completely fine D1 chop.

[Kate]

@Dennis

Thoughts on genny, lemon and/or quin?

[pyxxy]

Thoroughly unimpressed with pyxxy’s iso. But he said he’ll come back and such, but his D1 just rings as hollow.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

it's not gonna get better until probably D3, I just don't have the time

[Kate]

Putting the phone down for a bit, headache issues.

[pyxxy]

haven't really looked at pyxxy and... I can't remember their posts

might look there later
but depends on if I feel like it or not

[pyxxy]

actually, I'd go for Thunal first and then look at Seanzie again after if Thunal flips red
because it kind of reminds me of what Seanzie was doing to Epi in a previous game

this is definitely a different opinion from the thread's vibes

[pyxxy]

What's confusing?

Cause what did porscha even do

She fluff posted just about the entire time, and I think called anyone who townread her scum which I struggle to see as real play. Why kill her?

People who know her knew she was obv town. Better question is... who knew her?

^occam's razor

Elaborate.

oh woops, I meant that reading through the NKA, I agree with Seanzie that Porscha dying is likely bc scum found her as obvtown

I'm less concerned about figuring out exactly "who knew her" as I gotta assume any scum team is large enough to have 1+

it's info best stored for later if/when we flip a few people that we don't think would have clapped Porscha N1

Hmm. I'm not thrilled that you don't want to dig deeper, but at the same time you read civ here.

I'm undecided on you.

Since yall know who I am, I'm just gonna post all my thoughts instead of making notes.

I've been here a while on TS but I don't think I have the level-2 meta connections yet to correctly identify who would want to put the glock in Porscha's proverbial rari

put another way, let me rand scum a few more times and I would be feel comfortable helping theorize here

until then, it's all yours

(alright cool this post should make me towny enough to see D3)

[Seanzie]

Actually, I think pyxxy was the one I questioned whether they were voting creature due to the whole lowposting as wolf business
@pyxxy How do you feel now?

idr if I answered this already

I feel fine about Creature dying. In SDN crossover he got saved by partners, so maybe the lack of saving should have been a clue? otoh it's WIFOM, maybe if Creature was scum then his scummates just decide to bus him D1 since he already said he was busy/not thinking about this game.

Counter to what (Seanzie? iirc?) said, I think it's a completely fine D1 chop.

Creature is often an easy D1 push/miselim for wolves and gets easier to find as the game goes on IMO, which is why I don't think it was a good chop. I also think Creature being disintested is towny for them. As scum they tend to look interested, but somewhat stilted. As town they're either disinterested or interested and paranoid/solvey.

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: demonfairy] aubergine

@Dubz nice to meet you. When you're playing scum, how do you typically get caught (if at all)? e.g. can people find you alone, do you get easily revealed by your teammates flipping, are you told that you have tells, etc.