Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:07 am
@S~V~S and @Roxy
any initial reads of each other? I find it odd neither of you have really engaged each other
Have you read our ISOs?
I made a rudimentary reads list, and listed Roxy as "Trying to move things along, good look" (paraphrase).
Why would I "engage" someone for no reason? We had a small, couple posts, convo about low posters, but she hasn't said anything else I felt required "engaging".
Reading you and Roxy has been more of a cursory read, and from memory I didn’t recall you two interacting much less reading each other
So do you townread her atm based on what limited talking has happened?
I have a set of ideas for tone with Town Rox, not unlike with Kate, she's easier for me to find than bad Rox, I got a clear picture of her town game from an adversarial position in Se7en, where I watched her very closely. Town Roxy has a wide focus, she looks at everyone, she doesn't much tunnel, and she evolves. So yes, especially since most of the limited talking has been generated by her. That's who I see here, and I don't recall ever seeing this when Rox was bad. So i won't town core anyone before voting/results, but I town lean her, yeah.
agree on the roxy read, i don't think she can be that up front/annoying (not as a pejorative)/aggressive as scum, it's usually the hardest part of scumming and something i haven't seen from her
And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm
And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue
@Scotty if you think voting for someone who showed up, but is AFK, and said they would be, isn't opportunistic, not sure what to say. It's not too different than voting no shows, which you seem to oppose.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:17 pm
And yes, I have played with him though it was many millennia ago. Looking at it in a vacuum because I don’t know timmer’s meta, posting ‘I’m here but busy’ is an excuse type of post I associate with someone trying to say they’re here and not have to do anything else. It’s that very line that seems to get a pass from people that I don’t feel like I want to let into the venue
So he wouldn't be on your "no vote first time we played" list. That's why i asked.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:19 am
In any case, I don’t think Hal is a good vote today.
I think SVs and Roxy are the wolves.
if I am a wolf why are you voting Timmer.
I dare you to put your money where your mouth is.
Says the person who isn’t voting
Nah, I’ll keep flitting around, thanks
Q: why should I not vote timmer?
They've stated they are traveling for 48 hrs, seems less than ideal.
This is not a viable excuse not to vote.
I’ve been traveling the past few days. I’m still weighing in on things, making stances. I don’t feel like I should have a pass
I mean, did you tell the thread you'll be traveling and not around? I feel that's somewhat different.
What about timmer's posts tell you they're wolf? I mean, yes it's a bit fluffy, but this is not uncommon for 3 posts into D1.
In before it's just timmer & sean
I’ve been in flux and traveling since 3 games ago. I don’t really have the time to be playing as much as I am, and have just stopped giving excuses since last game because it’s tiring to explain
Though last game I was lynched D1 with not much of a silent fart after not giving excuses for my activity/play
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am
No, just a good schemer.
I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?
I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
oh interesting sr on roxy
i don't agree with it but that also means that he's tentatively townreading me
scotty and svs reads stick out to me sorta, if i were to explain why it would take 100+ words and i cba when it's all conjecture
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:21 pm
@Scotty if you think voting for someone who showed up, but is AFK, and said they would be, isn't opportunistic, not sure what to say. It's not too different than voting no shows, which you seem to oppose.
I think as a baseline, it could be said that the first person to vote for a player in the game is opportunistic, as they are sensing an opportunity to vote for someone.
So sure, I’m being opportunistic.
Like…y’all, I’m getting a lot of blowback for voting timmer, who I’m not sure I even wanted to end my vote on- some of it is to get pressure on him, some of it is genuine suspicion
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
no we always kill seanzie
i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr
however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
no we always kill seanzie
i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr
however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer
I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?
Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
no we always kill seanzie
i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr
however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer
I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?
Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??
i'm unsure how i didn't think of that, i realize that lots of syndicaters aren't in this game so there can be a replacement
i'm on team scotty if we are to chop someone not for reads
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am
@Roxy Talk to me about SVS & Scotty if yer able
SVS ok so far I guess
Scotty has given me pause with his line of questioning and I feel like he has and agenda - town or bad I do not know yet
but that LC list is something....I need some answers.
Talk to me about the list, what about it bothers you specifically?
This isn't my question, but a few things bother me. First, it feels like he's not so much defending Halyn, as trying to appease them, if that makes sense, with this remark:
I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
followed up with not putting a read on Halyn even though he put reads on the no shows.
Then, he put a wolf read on jpic and a town read on Sean, while both of them have the same zero posts. If he found no shows sus, he would sus both of them, right? And if he was in the no shows = BOTD camp, then it would be both of them.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
no we always kill seanzie
i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr
however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer
I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?
Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??
i'm unsure how i didn't think of that, i realize that lots of syndicaters aren't in this game so there can be a replacement
i'm on team scotty if we are to chop someone not for reads
You’re on team voting me? Do you actually suspect me? That’s the first I’m hearing of it
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
hal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:20 pm
seanzie's last post syndicate was oct 12th, signups for this game have been here since august, seanzie 0 posted in landlord legacy game
we always keep timmer here @Scotty
I don’t know how Seanzie has anything to do with timmer in this situation.
We always keep Seanzie here
no we always kill seanzie
i don't disagree with your unknowns argument at all ftr
however my argument of "seanzie hasn't posted in the landlord game" is superior, we know he's unlikely to appear, contrary to timmer
I’m… not sure I understand. If he’s not to appear, shouldn’t we wait for a replacement? That way we can actually realize a read on his slot?
Why are people wanting to shoot blindly into the void??
i'm unsure how i didn't think of that, i realize that lots of syndicaters aren't in this game so there can be a replacement
i'm on team scotty if we are to chop someone not for reads
You’re on team voting me? Do you actually suspect me? That’s the first I’m hearing of it
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm
as trying to appease them
based off his roxy/you reads he townreads me
so, good analysis
what makes u think of him withholding a tr on me?
strikes me more as opportunistic than appeasement, although it's partially the latter
based off how i played last game, w!LC would uh seek to handle me
It could be seen that way, it just feels waffly to me, I guess. He put reads on zero posters, but chose not to on you. I may be reading into it becasue he also made that cutesy remark. It just felt like him trying to stay on your good side and not ruffle you up.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:24 am
weird catch up is weird.
I will not vote hal tho they are most sus
Will probs be voting a no show
If you most suspect Hal, why not vote there?
you really asking me this?
Hmm... is this something suspicious from Scotty? Roxy implies it, maybe. I feel like he has been in recent games where this has come up and been discussed. If you look at it from one angle, a Scotty that already knows the answer to a question he's asking is a Scotty that is being fake... maybe a Scotty trying to subtly put suspicion Roxy's way.
Or maybe not! It's a stretch. Maybe this is ME trying to put suspicion SCOTTY's way! I'll look into it.
this is a very animated post, very different from his last game, and frankly terrible
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:45 pm
Happy to chop Ender, in the hope that Boq's sacrifice will not be in vain. I wish we could have played your "who's the most likely nightkill target?" game, that sounded fun... and also sounded like the assuredness of Ender's non-Landlord status was contingent on it somehow. Hope Boq was analyzing correctly.
Ender indicated that it's an incorrect conclusion from the info. What could that mean? Tracker/Watcher... possible redirect? What could Ender immediately understand about Boq's limited talk about it?
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am
No, just a good schemer.
I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?
I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
oh interesting sr on roxy
i don't agree with it but that also means that he's tentatively townreading me
scotty and svs reads stick out to me sorta, if i were to explain why it would take 100+ words and i cba when it's all conjecture
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:24 am
weird catch up is weird.
I will not vote hal tho they are most sus
Will probs be voting a no show
If you most suspect Hal, why not vote there?
you really asking me this?
Hmm... is this something suspicious from Scotty? Roxy implies it, maybe. I feel like he has been in recent games where this has come up and been discussed. If you look at it from one angle, a Scotty that already knows the answer to a question he's asking is a Scotty that is being fake... maybe a Scotty trying to subtly put suspicion Roxy's way.
Or maybe not! It's a stretch. Maybe this is ME trying to put suspicion SCOTTY's way! I'll look into it.
this is a very animated post, very different from his last game, and frankly terrible
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:35 pm
as trying to appease them
based off his roxy/you reads he townreads me
so, good analysis
what makes u think of him withholding a tr on me?
strikes me more as opportunistic than appeasement, although it's partially the latter
based off how i played last game, w!LC would uh seek to handle me
It could be seen that way, it just feels waffly to me, I guess. He put reads on zero posters, but chose not to on you. I may be reading into it becasue he also made that cutesy remark. It just felt like him trying to stay on your good side and not ruffle you up.
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:58 pm
Ok time to get some discussion going
If we’re all part of a band, (all playing guitar) and some are trying to sabotage our show, I ask anyone that’s here:
-what kind of guitar do you play? What does it look like?
-are you more of a support or do you want the solos?
-what is your ideal venue?
Go
* My friends son is trying to get this guitar for Christmas. My friends husband isn't sure the son is serious enough about it to justify the expense. It's acoustic electric which apparently amplifies the acoustic sound primarily for stage use; hubby isn't sure Sonny needs that. We'll see. My friend think she'll chip in half if her son manages to save half. But to get to the question, I'd play this. I think it's gorgeous, and since I failed at lessons, as an acoustic I wouldn't much be harrassing others when I play it.
*Support. IRL I think I'd make a fab personal assistant, I love pulling the strings and making things happen in the background. So standing in the background, mentally planning the bands next move, holding my lovely guitar without actually playing it, would be the place for me. A place where I could watch people rather than them watching me. This is what I'd like, but it seldom happens lol. I generally try pushing the front man out of the way , with varied degrees of success.
*For a band I was in? Someplace dark with a large stage I could fade back on. For a band I worked for? A place with an office with plants and a big window I could use to figure out who was trying to sabotage us by poring over concert footage.
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Never got into electric. Something about the tuning felt too naked when learning. But I like the idea of getting them to half pay.
You prefer support, eh? Does that also translate to mafia? Like, when you’re mafia, do you tend to hang in the background and not powerwolf, or does this analogy not relate?
It does translate. Day one I play pretty much the same, i think. I tend to be a bit more haphazard when I'm town, say stupid shit, etc. I look for a hook when town, something that someone says that seems not right. Then I become kind of a PITA. But I need the hook. When I'm bad, I try to avoid "being" the hook. "Almost too smooth" someone called it once, and they were right. I'm never a PITA when I'm bad.
So I’m looking for you to be almost too smooth like baby’s ass
Got it.
Do you not think you can replicate your town game as mafia?
First, I think self meta is mostly pointless since anyone can say anything they want to, but I think this is pretty much something anyone who knows me well could confirm.
So, yes, I could, but it would be awkward and weird for me to do so, and anyone who knows me would have to notice it. I'm so much more careful when bad, I polish my posts, reread them a few times, try to catch all the "becasue"s. I try harder to not say anything incendiary or that will annoy people too much. It's hard to fake carelessness, and my town game is more spontaneous.
This is lowkey hilarious if unintentional. Tho a part of me is tinfoiling that you did this just to present yourself as town meta
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:39 pm
SVS, Scotty I feel safe to call town at the moment
Roxy I'm less sure of, but more towny than not
Scum reading Hal & LC, and I'd also say timmer is more scummy than not
JPIC, Sean are null
I’m just not sure about LC. He’s sort of aloof and jokey and his reads are bit nonsensical, but I’m not sure I’m willing to say it looks incredibly *scummy*
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 am
No, just a good schemer.
I have never played with anyone in this playlist before, who do you think are good wolves here and how comfortable do you feel in the playerlist?
I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
falcon45ca - Town
hal - robyn
Justplayingitcool - Lean Scum
Long Con - I can't read this guy
Roxy - Scum
Seanzie - Lean town
Scotty - Lean Scum
S~V~S - Town
timmer - Scum
How about that?
3 mafia's in that list! Please can you elaborate friend
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:34 am
@Roxy Talk to me about SVS & Scotty if yer able
SVS ok so far I guess
Scotty has given me pause with his line of questioning and I feel like he has and agenda - town or bad I do not know yet
but that LC list is something....I need some answers.
Talk to me about the list, what about it bothers you specifically?
This isn't my question, but a few things bother me. First, it feels like he's not so much defending Halyn, as trying to appease them, if that makes sense, with this remark:
I do feel comfortable with this playlist. Now that that Hal guy's gone. Either way, you are the newest player to me on this list. Everyone else is someone I've played with 3 million times.
followed up with not putting a read on Halyn even though he put reads on the no shows.
Then, he put a wolf read on jpic and a town read on Sean, while both of them have the same zero posts. If he found no shows sus, he would sus both of them, right? And if he was in the no shows = BOTD camp, then it would be both of them.
i also have a weird gut read that hal is town as well based on absolutely nothing other than i thought it was interesting they were fine with killing seanzie but didn't mention me
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It's Saturday Night in the suburbs, so not sure how long it'll take, so I'm voting now for [VOTE:
Long Con] aubergine. I hopefully will be back before the poll ends, but just in case.
That list didn't sit well with me.
@Scotty no, lol. I don't think my phone even corrects "becasue" anymore. I have to make a conscious effort to not make that typo, it's just a thing ha ha
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell