Severance [Evening Four]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[Ranmilia]

Reasonably Confident Townreads
Ranmilia - your kawaii internet idol~
robyn - Legally required.
TSP - He's done the same things as me in terms of what he cares about, and with prior knowledge is a fairly easy read. By which I mean It's true. This man has no wolfgame.
leetic - the good news is leetic is pretty clearly uninformed and continues to confirm that. The bad news is leetic is pretty clearly uninformed.
Gira - Gira saw what I was doing, and that earns a lot of points, unless we are in the exact world where it means the opposite. I think robyn's take is very incorrect here, Gira is paying attention and while there is a world where that's wolf attention I currently have no reason to believe in that world over the baseline of caring about the game is towny.

Big Shot
Wind - Taking A [Ride] Around [Town] In Our [Specil Cungadero]

Staring Into A Handful Of Posts And Tea Leaves Pile
☆Princess Abigail☆ - mildly doesn't seem informed
pyxxy - existed but no impression
Dubz - mildly seems informed but abigail is defending
Bereft - mildly seems informed
tedxtr - first person to bring the mech discussion into the open which is a big hmm in my eyes.

Actual One Post
Dizzy

Actual Zero Posts
Mac

[tedxtr]

i think i know who i wanna lunch already

oh boay :/

Is it me

you’re safe for now

is it me :3

no, i was going to give you a pass d1 regardless cuz we killed you in some elmo game

do you know me by my other name insomnia?

yeah

[Ranmilia]

Howdy ted. Whomst among us (bass sting) would you vote?

[tedxtr]

tsp

[Ranmilia]

Interesting, why? He looks pretty towny to me.

[tedxtr]

i've just rechecked his iso cuz i was heavily leaning on wolf reading him cuz of 1 post that i thought came outta nowhere, but it turns out he was replying to someone without quoting. im not that strong on it anymore for that reason

though idk how to handle you calling him an usual obv wolf. i remember him fooling us plenty of times, it seems like his capability of wolfing comes depending on whether he wants to win harder than usual, or maybe mood. i thought his poasting here was almost completely NAI and yet you decide to call him an ez villa read

have you only played with him in games where he was omega wolfy or wat? cuz i wouldn't call him as not having a wolfgame, just that sometimes he just... mails it in, but i think it's mood dependant. im trying to remember though since i haven't played with him in a long time

[tedxtr]

like what do you think he's done that is out of any wolf's range?

[Ranmilia]

I've played with TSP on the ground twice, technically, but in both games he got mech cleared/essentially mech cleared and was only alive with me for one day phase. I've read a few more of his games and every one where he was scum I saw a great disparity, he basically phoned in the game and didn't play or contribute any complex thought at any point. So there is that. I'm sure he has better scum games but that is what forms my baseline. And in this game specifically, he entered posting a lot of stuff about me which is correct and (in my eyes) fairly insightful and beyond anything I've seen him do as a wolf.

... granted that does amount to "he's buttering up me specifically and talking about me specifically." So there is that too.

[tedxtr]

So there is that. I'm sure he has better scum games but that is what forms my baseline. And in this game specifically, he entered posting a lot of stuff about me which is correct and (in my eyes) fairly insightful and beyond anything I've seen him do as a wolf.

... granted that does amount to "he's buttering up me specifically and talking about me specifically." So there is that too.

alright, this is an acceptable answer, as i was gonna say that if i were to be stretching it, his seeming obsession with you seems villagery cuz it feels like it's coming from a spot of trying to give guidelines to the thread on how to read you, or that he'll handle it

[tedxtr]

im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

[Ranmilia]

Ran will be outed by results and thread position by day 3 at the latest and this is a 27 player game so I’m just not worried

Like this just does not strike me as a post coming from a wolf here. There is almost always an early debate of some sort about me, people who don't know me go through phases of "Ran is weird and could be powerwolfing, I'm worried" until they know better... but this sentiment above, when I see it, has come from town every time except specifically once (Alison in SCI'22). And TSP is not Alison.

[tedxtr]

ironically, that is the post that made me say "i know who im voting", cuz just by going with the flow of the thread, he's seemed pretty out of it and i thought he just said that out of nowhere, as though he didn't know what to talk about. but there was some convo of you and someone else on that page, and now i've noticed he's been talking about you since the start too after isoing

[Ranmilia]

im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

Yeah the mech is definitely a thing. I suppose we're far enough in now that I can say that's also what I was doing.

@leetic So, remember my first post? It wasn't fluff, it's a quote from the TV show the game is based on, and it has a meaning in context. It was indeed a friendly opener but also it was a probe to see who would recognize it and be familiar with the flavor. leetic, wind and pyxxy all showed they were unfamiliar, Gira seemed to catch it (and also affirmed this signal back as early as p#88 and reaffirmed it recently when ted brought the mech up again).

[tedxtr]

now to touch on an NAI subject that is potentially interesting, has anyone noticed that it's just half the game playing?

i want some brainstorming on what that means cuz we couldn't figure out in wolfchat


i think this is the sort of topic that should be discussed in a d0

Tell wolfchat to play the game, lol

Jokes aside, isn't it because it's still D0? People will probably trickle in by the time the game actually starts, especially since we're just over 12 hours into the pregame phase and I'd expect that not everyone has gotten the chance to check in yet. So, I get what you mean, but I don't think it's particularly unusual at this point in time.

they could be playing dumb if wolf, but this sounds p good on t0an, and the red line is a sick thing to say knowing you're playing dumb lol

[robyn]

im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

Yeah the mech is definitely a thing. I suppose we're far enough in now that I can say that's also what I was doing.

@leetic So, remember my first post? It wasn't fluff, it's a quote from the TV show the game is based on, and it has a meaning in context. It was indeed a friendly opener but also it was a probe to see who would recognize it and be familiar with the flavor. leetic, wind and pyxxy all showed they were unfamiliar, Gira seemed to catch it (and also affirmed this signal back as early as p#88 and reaffirmed it recently when ted brought the mech up again).

i watched the entire show, but when it first first came out, within a few days

so i know all of it but quotes will go over my head

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Reasonably Confident Townreads
Ranmilia - your kawaii internet idol~
robyn - Legally required.
TSP - He's done the same things as me in terms of what he cares about, and with prior knowledge is a fairly easy read. By which I mean It's true. This man has no wolfgame.
leetic - the good news is leetic is pretty clearly uninformed and continues to confirm that. The bad news is leetic is pretty clearly uninformed.
Gira - Gira saw what I was doing, and that earns a lot of points, unless we are in the exact world where it means the opposite. I think robyn's take is very incorrect here, Gira is paying attention and while there is a world where that's wolf attention I currently have no reason to believe in that world over the baseline of caring about the game is towny.

Big Shot
Wind - Taking A [Ride] Around [Town] In Our [Specil Cungadero]

Staring Into A Handful Of Posts And Tea Leaves Pile
☆Princess Abigail☆ - mildly doesn't seem informed
pyxxy - existed but no impression
Dubz - mildly seems informed but abigail is defending
Bereft - mildly seems informed
tedxtr - first person to bring the mech discussion into the open which is a big hmm in my eyes.

Actual One Post
Dizzy

Actual Zero Posts
Mac

How does dubz seem informed lol

[Ranmilia]

How does dubz seem informed lol

Vibes, and a bit of a flinch when I asked about her having an Eagan aligned role.

[tedxtr]

i guess dubz could be a wolf, but it's too early to tell and i have 0 meta with him

think a bad sign is also that he's defended himself, saying he's gonna be fluffing more and left the thread, rather than in the middle of fluffing or posting or whatever. kinda feel like a wolf would leave more on that note than a villa

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I will hard shield DubZ for all eternity

[Ranmilia]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

Yes

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

It doesn't give me a read on you though

[Gira]

my first posts were also quoting the show

[Dyslexicon]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

You already tried to imply this on the first page.

Nervously.

Hi, wolfmilla.

[Dyslexicon]

It's about a (quite excellent) TV show, which we get to quote relentlessly, because we are real people and we get to make the decisions.

After Leetic pecked their all-pecking beak at you.

[leetic]

im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

Yeah the mech is definitely a thing. I suppose we're far enough in now that I can say that's also what I was doing.

@leetic So, remember my first post? It wasn't fluff, it's a quote from the TV show the game is based on, and it has a meaning in context. It was indeed a friendly opener but also it was a probe to see who would recognize it and be familiar with the flavor. leetic, wind and pyxxy all showed they were unfamiliar, Gira seemed to catch it (and also affirmed this signal back as early as p#88 and reaffirmed it recently when ted brought the mech up again).

What exactly are you trying to glean from whether or not people are familiar with the flavor? If the answer is "nothing", it's still fluff

[leetic]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

You already tried to imply this on the first page.

Nervously.

Hi, wolfmilla.

When you have so little in your ISO, the fact that you felt the need to jump on this seems fishy.

[Gira]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

You already tried to imply this on the first page.

Nervously.

Hi, wolfmilla.

When you have so little in your ISO, the fact that you felt the need to jump on this seems fishy.

why's that?

[leetic]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

You already tried to imply this on the first page.

Nervously.

Hi, wolfmilla.

When you have so little in your ISO, the fact that you felt the need to jump on this seems fishy.

why's that?

Out-of-nowhere jumps in a largely fluffy or nonexistent ISO look wolfy

[TonyStarkPrime]

Although I will say that I'm beginning to add "thread health" to my list of mafia pet peeves. As long as activity is going on, that shouldn't be a concern.

Hot dog man itc

[TonyStarkPrime]

So there is that. I'm sure he has better scum games but that is what forms my baseline. And in this game specifically, he entered posting a lot of stuff about me which is correct and (in my eyes) fairly insightful and beyond anything I've seen him do as a wolf.

... granted that does amount to "he's buttering up me specifically and talking about me specifically." So there is that too.

alright, this is an acceptable answer, as i was gonna say that if i were to be stretching it, his seeming obsession with you seems villagery cuz it feels like it's coming from a spot of trying to give guidelines to the thread on how to read you, or that he'll handle it

I’m thinking of handling it by going against my stated advice

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ran will be outed by results and thread position by day 3 at the latest and this is a 27 player game so I’m just not worried

Like this just does not strike me as a post coming from a wolf here. There is almost always an early debate of some sort about me, people who don't know me go through phases of "Ran is weird and could be powerwolfing, I'm worried" until they know better... but this sentiment above, when I see it, has come from town every time except specifically once (Alison in SCI'22). And TSP is not Alison.

Disagree

[TonyStarkPrime]

I will say on background I have not played with many people in this game, or at least not when I cared about games, and simply don’t feel super comfortable making individual reads on air (unlike some people who think they’re good enough to do that).

[leetic]

I will say on background I have not played with many people in this game, or at least not when I cared about games, and simply don’t feel super comfortable making individual reads on air (unlike some people who think they’re good enough to do that).

You don't have to be "good" to make GTH reads. You know what GTH means right? Also, why are you the third person in this game that I needed to ask that to?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Not talking about you

[Ranmilia]

im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

Yeah the mech is definitely a thing. I suppose we're far enough in now that I can say that's also what I was doing.

@leetic So, remember my first post? It wasn't fluff, it's a quote from the TV show the game is based on, and it has a meaning in context. It was indeed a friendly opener but also it was a probe to see who would recognize it and be familiar with the flavor. leetic, wind and pyxxy all showed they were unfamiliar, Gira seemed to catch it (and also affirmed this signal back as early as p#88 and reaffirmed it recently when ted brought the mech up again).

What exactly are you trying to glean from whether or not people are familiar with the flavor? If the answer is "nothing", it's still fluff

Is it not obvious? Wolves have information, presumably including information on the mechanics beyond what we know. Wolves also share information, if one wolf knows something from the flavor then probably all wolves know it, unless they specifically think to fake this. Kind of the point of the game. At the very least I don't think Gira is likely wolf partners with wind, leetic or pyxxy. And hopefully, depending on what the mech gimmicks actually turn out to be, later on we'll be able to look back at these different responses in the earlygame and make even more reads on things like that.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think your GTH reads are completely fine

[pyxxy]

I put Grey Goose in my juice box for this game

share plz

[Gira]

Aight. Does knowing my first post was a quote from the TV show make you less scared of it?

You already tried to imply this on the first page.

Nervously.

Hi, wolfmilla.

When you have so little in your ISO, the fact that you felt the need to jump on this seems fishy.

why's that?

Out-of-nowhere jumps in a largely fluffy or nonexistent ISO look wolfy

i really don't agree, seems more like he found something that caught his attention then commented on it. would be different if it was something everyone else was talking about but it's an original thought. i sense that there is a disagreement here based on theory though which i am unlikely to sell you on

[TonyStarkPrime]

Ran will be outed by results and thread position by day 3 at the latest and this is a 27 player game so I’m just not worried

Like this just does not strike me as a post coming from a wolf here. There is almost always an early debate of some sort about me, people who don't know me go through phases of "Ran is weird and could be powerwolfing, I'm worried" until they know better... but this sentiment above, when I see it, has come from town every time except specifically once (Alison in SCI'22). And TSP is not Alison.

I was assuring myself more than the thread, I think. But maybe not quite why I’m worried.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pyxxy town

[pyxxy]

tsp kinda scummy

uncomfortable mindmeld

I didnt remember tsp being like this, I remember tsp being lhf

[pyxxy]

oh hi tsp

[pyxxy]

dont worry it's strictly personal and not business

since I have no idea what's going on at work

[TonyStarkPrime]

tsp kinda scummy

uncomfortable mindmeld

I didnt remember tsp being like this, I remember tsp being lhf

and what’s this

[leetic]

Pyxxy town

Elaborate.

[pyxxy]

I'm gonna say this now sorry if someone got it it between p7 and current

I don't think this is a 26/27/28 player game

having watched ½ of the first episode of Severance, I could see a setup with "13" players where if you die at work you die in real life and vice versa

maybe something weird where they only get to play during our "nights", thus the phase zero was their "D1" (otherwise really boring to have ~13 people sit around for 72 hours?)

no deaths ofc bc it would also suck to kill someone on this side of the work-life balance before we even got to play

all theoretical ofc

someone please tell me the normal # of scum for a 13p, ty in advance

[pyxxy]

Pyxxy town

Elaborate.

-Snoop Dogg

[TonyStarkPrime]

Pyxxy town

Elaborate.

The top poster, a presumably obvious town player, and me, a person pyxxy has never played with and cannot possibly have garnered a real read on.

Huh ok reading back the only game pyxxy and I played together and noting that I need to start actually considering suspicions instead of hiding them with the word “presumably”

Anyways level zero meta read off one game tbh. Which is probably kinda bad