Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[Alison]

hoes mad loool

[Alison]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

[WindwardAway]

hoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

[Dyslexicon]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

[Dyslexicon]

Also new thread who dis

[Alison]

hoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

I'm not complaining at all.

I'm just pointing out that you're simultaneously telling me to put my vote elsewhere and giving me zero reasons to do that. You haven't towncased yourself, convinced me to vote for a scummier player and you aren't even pressuring me back.

It feels like you're just saying "vote elsewhere" because you think it's what a townie would say, rather than having actual intent or motivation to convince me to do as you ask.

For instance a natural start would be to talk about the other 3 people you apparently think are scum and why, but you've been intentionally stubborn about not wanting to talk about them and rebuff all attempts at asking with "read my N0 ISO".

[WindwardAway]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

[Alison]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

Who's mafia?

[WindwardAway]

hoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

I'm not complaining at all.

I'm just pointing out that you're simultaneously telling me to put my vote elsewhere and giving me zero reasons to do that. You haven't towncased yourself, convinced me to vote for a scummier player and you aren't even pressuring me back.

It feels like you're just saying "vote elsewhere" because you think it's what a townie would say, rather than having actual intent or motivation to convince me to do as you ask.

For instance a natural start would be to talk about the other 3 people you apparently think are scum and why, but you've been intentionally stubborn about not wanting to talk about them and rebuff all attempts at asking with "read my N0 ISO".

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

[Dyslexicon]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

[WindwardAway]

like do you seriously think i made so many posts during N0 that it's un-ISOable
give me a fucking break

[Dyslexicon]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

Who's mafia?

I don't know!

[WindwardAway]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

ok, and why do YOU believe me when i say that?

[Dyslexicon]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

ok, and why do YOU believe me when i say that?

I just like to listen to people

Especially when they cri

[Alison]

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

[WindwardAway]

Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

ok, and why do YOU believe me when i say that?

I just like to listen to people

Especially when they cri

huh
that was definitely not the answer i expected but ok

[Lemonfairy]

I was planning to return to thread before N0 ended but oops
it was also pretty hard to find this thread

[WindwardAway]

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

[Lemonfairy]

other than that, I think we should tone it down a bit and keep things friendly

[Dyslexicon]

I have read very little of the game so far.
Will probably continue to skim just here and there.
The last two times I did this, my reads were fucking great.

Things I mildly care about so far is
Sabi saying she hates mafia and only signed up cause shrugze is valid. I'm kind of in the same boat. Bemoaning how awful mafia is loudly is of course not so fun. But it's totally possible to have this position, but still getting sucked into the game, and like oh no here we go again why do I do this etc. That in itself isn't alignment indicative imo. I don't know why we're arguing that point.

I haven't read Leetic's posts, but them having a play style that is kind of rigid and can be annoying to others is normal. Just saw some clashing there

Porscha is town <3

Tony is town <3

[Dyslexicon]

other than that, I think we should tone it down a bit and keep things friendly

Or mud wrestling. We could do mud wrestling

[Dyslexicon]

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

[Lemonfairy]

other than that, I think we should tone it down a bit and keep things friendly

Or mud wrestling. We could do mud wrestling

I'd rather stay away from mud, thank you

[DrWilgy]

I see things are happening now. Someone tldr me from last thread.

[Lemonfairy]

(who is Tony btw?)

[Alison]

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

Other 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 more

Why is nutella significant?

[Dyslexicon]

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"...



you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

You know those two are different things.

[Alison]

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

really bad sign from you

[Sabiplz]

I'm like 95% wwa is town here

and why is that?

Tone

tonereading me works like 0% of the time
people tunnel me for tone as town
people townread me for tone as scum
it is directly related to my mood irl and not at all related to my alignment but fine
are you making other reads that arent based on tone or are they mostly tonereads rn?

Well my read on Alison and leetic was based of their content (or. Lack of) and push

Tone read you and pyxxy and nutella.

Content read Seanzie

[Dyslexicon]

(who is Tony btw?)

TonyStarkPrime, TSP, Teaspoon

[Alison]

dizzy usually has playstyle differences from me but it's rare for us to not see eye to eye on thought processes to the point where he's willing to say that everything I'm saying is BS, and we can usually find some common ground

I think he is mafia

[Lemonfairy]

(who is Tony btw?)

TonyStarkPrime, TSP, Teaspoon

(tyty)

[Dyslexicon]

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

really bad sign from you

Aw

[Sabiplz]

As a hoe I'm not even mad.

Alison is just outted wolf.

We can all dance around it.

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy usually has playstyle differences from me but it's rare for us to not see eye to eye on thought processes to the point where he's willing to say that everything I'm saying is BS, and we can usually find some common ground

I think he is mafia

I mean, I haven't read most any of your posts

But I don't get your deal with either Sabi or wwa

Without really knowing much about it

And also not having an actual read on either of them

And I just wanted to sling mud at you anyway

[Sabiplz]

One again all of Alison scumread lack any bite or actual. Solving.

Sad

[Alison]

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

really bad sign from you

Aw

well you know I'm not going to vote you day 1 regardless so I'm going to take a leaf from WWA's book and say that you should focus on doing your own thing and I'll find you town if you are. Probably after you catch a mafia which shouldn't be too hard if you're town... the last 5 times I doubted you as T/T and trusted you to come through if you are, I managed to get there on you sooner or later.

Right now I think you are mafia though.

[Alison]

One again all of Alison scumread lack any bite or actual. Solving.

Sad

I have bagged 4 wolves and D1 has just begun

my reputation must truly be formidable if you call that lacking bite!

[Guillotine]

Are you fucking kidding me? Why did the hosts split the game in two?

[WindwardAway]

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

Other 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 more

Why is nutella significant?

nutella is one of them
then there are 2 more

and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

[Dyslexicon]

Honestly

Calm down the lot of you

We are early game

We can do better than black and white

[Sabiplz]

One again all of Alison scumread lack any bite or actual. Solving.

Sad

I have bagged 4 wolves and D1 has just begun

my reputation must truly be formidable if you call that lacking bite!

Seeing as I know 100% your are wrong on me, I can say your "scum hunting" this game is like level 0 which is once again not like your town game. When you're town you act have substance to your pushes. This shit is cotton candy.

[Lemonfairy]

wait, can we assume the number of mafia/town in each facility is divided equally?
I'm assuming the other thread would also get to vote so if the number of towns/mafia are unbalanced, one side would have a higher chance of hitting town and it wouldn't make sense

[Guillotine]

And none of my wolf reads ended up here, mfers are lucky!

[Sabiplz]

Honestly

Calm down the lot of you

We are early game

We can do better than black and white

I'm calm tyvm

[Alison]

and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

I think falcon is obvious town too.

Not for saying I am town though lol.

[WindwardAway]

Honestly

Calm down the lot of you

We are early game

We can do better than black and white

no we can't, this is forum mafia /s

[Alison]

One again all of Alison scumread lack any bite or actual. Solving.

Sad

I have bagged 4 wolves and D1 has just begun

my reputation must truly be formidable if you call that lacking bite!

Seeing as I know 100% your are wrong on me, I can say your "scum hunting" this game is like level 0 which is once again not like your town game. When you're town you act have substance to your pushes. This shit is cotton candy.

So you're just blatantly lying to the thread at this point because I am probably the most ardent advocate of level 0 scumhunting in the entire community and constantly tell people not to overthink it.

[Dyslexicon]

Honestly

Calm down the lot of you

We are early game

We can do better than black and white

I'm calm tyvm

As in calm down the "so and so is outed wolf"

But also, go where your heart desires

Just unsure if it leads anywhere

[Alison]

And Sabi since you seem to think that ALL of my scumhunting is BS I'm looking forward to your town case on Abi, Caitlin, Windward and/or Dizzy.