Game of Champions: East Facility (Night 2)

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dizzy is lock town btw

why?

Ez read

[Guillotine]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

[Cape90]

though #375 from night 0 is a decent call out, that did not look great, but doesnt matter to me rn

[WindwardAway]

do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.

so I can vote you but you don't have the stones to vote me back? great deal for me, never taking my vote off then!

cool, waste your vote then, that's great

Do you townread Alison?

not particularly
i'm not dead set on scumreading her, though, I'm trying to understand her thought process which is why i'm talking to her about falcon and nutella
but hell if i care whether scum wastes their vote
i honestly don't know if i care whether town wastes their vote on me or not, sometimes i just stop giving a shit and decide it's better for people to flip me early so they stop trying to preflip me as scum, since that tends to result in a ton of bad reads if i remain alive

[Lemonfairy]

idk I tried (don't be too hard on lemon because most of the people I had reads on ended up in the other thread)

town?
Cape90
Dyslexicon
Guillotine

DrWilgy
nutella

everyone else
Lime Coke
Master Radishes
DarlingMonroe
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle
Sabiplz
WindwardAway
Alison

[Alison]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

yeah could be I guess

who else do you think is mafia in this thread?

[Sabiplz]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

Please don't misgendered me.

Also this isn't omgus.

I think Alison sr lack any bite.

Sring Abi for saying she will message Cait feels like the most convoluted way p sr someone.

[Guillotine]

hoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

I'm not complaining at all.

I'm just pointing out that you're simultaneously telling me to put my vote elsewhere and giving me zero reasons to do that. You haven't towncased yourself, convinced me to vote for a scummier player and you aren't even pressuring me back.

It feels like you're just saying "vote elsewhere" because you think it's what a townie would say, rather than having actual intent or motivation to convince me to do as you ask.

For instance a natural start would be to talk about the other 3 people you apparently think are scum and why, but you've been intentionally stubborn about not wanting to talk about them and rebuff all attempts at asking with "read my N0 ISO".

Ok. Alison towned up for me.

[Sabiplz]

Having not caught up at all, in my head:

3 townreads I have right now are

Sabiplz
Lemonfairy
Guillotine

1 townlean I have right now is

Alison

First off when have you ever townread me day one of any game ever

Literally never, but you were pretty darn towny night 0, i have other town reads but they are from the other thread, Caitlin comes to mind

Squint

[Lemonfairy]

I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow

oh wait maybe nanook can be town

[Dyslexicon]

But is it the bite that's lacking, or is it the teeth

Things to ponder in the night

[Guillotine]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

Please don't misgendered me.

Also this isn't omgus.

I think Alison sr lack any bite.

Sring Abi for saying she will message Cait feels like the most convoluted way p sr someone.

It is convoluted but not a road i'd see scum taking, cause it is dangerous and scum have a lot more to lose than when town does it.

[Dyslexicon]

@Michelle Ping me if you remember and have any takes, please <3

[Sabiplz]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

Please don't misgendered me.

Also this isn't omgus.

I think Alison sr lack any bite.

Sring Abi for saying she will message Cait feels like the most convoluted way p sr someone.

It is convoluted but not a road i'd see scum taking, cause it is dangerous and scum have a lot more to lose than when town does it.

[Sabiplz]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

Please don't misgendered me.

Also this isn't omgus.

I think Alison sr lack any bite.

Sring Abi for saying she will message Cait feels like the most convoluted way p sr someone.

It is convoluted but not a road i'd see scum taking, cause it is dangerous and scum have a lot more to lose than when town does it.

Maybe I hold Alison town game too high of a standard because I don't expect this from their scumhunting Shrugze.

[Lemonfairy]

And Sabi since you seem to think that ALL of my scumhunting is BS I'm looking forward to your town case on Abi, Caitlin, Windward and/or Dizzy.

I don't tr Caitlin or Abi.

I'm null on dizzy.

I think wwa is unlike her wolf games I have read before.

ok, so I put forward 5 names as scum, you think two are town, one is null, and the others could easily be scum?

how is that different from my typical town game in any way? every single time we're both town I tunnel someone early on for reasons you think are shit... sometimes I'm right sometimes I'm not, but it beggars belief to think that you would find this a huge swing in behavior.

Are you bad at reading? I only tr one and either sl or null read the other four...

alison's scum list:
caitlin
abi
sabi
wwa
dizzy

dizzy is "null". you "don't townread" abi or caitlin.

presumably you townread yourself. wwa is "unlike her wolf games" which I take to be a townread.

that's what I meant by two townreads, you and WWA.

but my point is more broadly that why the fuck are you acting like I just published the worst reads list on planet earth when I posted 5 names I suspect early on in the game and you think 3/5 of them could easily be in the POE?

idk what's happening here but I'm just not totally vibing with this list
usually we vibe more :c

[RondoDimBuckle]

I will say that no claiming/infodumping rules are a sign of a poorly designed setup, give mafia a soup if you really can't make a balanced game, but whatever

Agreed.

What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?

I would say its to return to the rhetoric/diplomacy of actual persuasive arguments instead of just calling to your power to win. Its wolf sided when town have more powers. I personally enjoy it as its what I used to play with.

[Lemonfairy]

but tbf I also didn't really vibe with Cape's townlist and I'm townreading them

[Guillotine]

Alison, you're kind of being full of bs as far as I can see, if I am to be all the way honest

Oh no…

[Guillotine]

I will say that no claiming/infodumping rules are a sign of a poorly designed setup, give mafia a soup if you really can't make a balanced game, but whatever

Agreed.

What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?

I would say its to return to the rhetoric/diplomacy of actual persuasive arguments instead of just calling to your power to win. Its wolf sided when town have more powers. I personally enjoy it as its what I used to play with.

Then make it a 30 player mountainous game ffs.

[Guillotine]

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"...



you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

You know those two are different things.

They are not, what are you talking about?

[Cape90]

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

[Lemonfairy]

I will say that no claiming/infodumping rules are a sign of a poorly designed setup, give mafia a soup if you really can't make a balanced game, but whatever

Agreed.

What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?

I would say its to return to the rhetoric/diplomacy of actual persuasive arguments instead of just calling to your power to win. Its wolf sided when town have more powers. I personally enjoy it as its what I used to play with.

Then make it a 30 player mountainous game ffs.

that sounds like fun

[Guillotine]

dizzy usually has playstyle differences from me but it's rare for us to not see eye to eye on thought processes to the point where he's willing to say that everything I'm saying is BS, and we can usually find some common ground

I think he is mafia

I mean, I haven't read most any of your posts

But I don't get your deal with either Sabi or wwa

Without really knowing much about it

And also not having an actual read on either of them

And I just wanted to sling mud at you anyway

Perhaps read night 0 which you have admitted to not reading earlier here, that would be a start.

Please be mafia in Game of Champions again, i want my revenge. =D

[Lemonfairy]

I've reached my quota for social interaction today so bye

(jk I'll be back later... maybe)

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow

DnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?

[Guillotine]

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

Other 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 more

Why is nutella significant?

nutella is one of them
then there are 2 more

and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

Ok then.

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

[Guillotine]

sabi with the "town alisons play is probably mega degraded if she's suspecting me here" is a BS line btw, it's like 1 hour into day 1

everything about their posts is 99% performativeness and 0% substance

Or it is Sabi being Sabi, they are the queen of omgus

yeah could be I guess

who else do you think is mafia in this thread?

Nutella
Dyslexicon
Lime Coke

[Cape90]

#579 is a more nuanced take then nutella then i have seen in their scum game with me, so take that as you will, I generally find this portion of nutella's n0 towny though

[RondoDimBuckle]

I will say that no claiming/infodumping rules are a sign of a poorly designed setup, give mafia a soup if you really can't make a balanced game, but whatever

Agreed.

What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?

I would say its to return to the rhetoric/diplomacy of actual persuasive arguments instead of just calling to your power to win. Its wolf sided when town have more powers. I personally enjoy it as its what I used to play with.

Then make it a 30 player mountainous game ffs.

no, powers are fun

[Guillotine]

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

You know what would be cool, that we get moved to whatever the other facility is on fay 2 so we get to read what went down there and the same for them.

[Guillotine]

I will say that no claiming/infodumping rules are a sign of a poorly designed setup, give mafia a soup if you really can't make a balanced game, but whatever

Agreed.

What is the fucking point of limiting us this way?

I would say its to return to the rhetoric/diplomacy of actual persuasive arguments instead of just calling to your power to win. Its wolf sided when town have more powers. I personally enjoy it as its what I used to play with.

Then make it a 30 player mountainous game ffs.

no, powers are fun

Not when you cant claim them or their results.

[Cape90]

#602

@nutella I disagree with sig being town because I saw things about them hunting 3p night 0, Guillo pointed it out #451

[Cape90]

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

You know what would be cool, that we get moved to whatever the other facility is on fay 2 so we get to read what went down there and the same for them.

Yeah actually that would be kinda cool, unfortunately that isn't what happened in Severance when there was a split there, but I won as wolf in that game, was easy because my thread was pretty dead so i could just chill out and blend in with not too much effort

[Guillotine]

idk I tried (don't be too hard on lemon because most of the people I had reads on ended up in the other thread)

town?
Cape90
Dyslexicon
Guillotine

DrWilgy
nutella

everyone else
Lime Coke
Master Radishes
DarlingMonroe
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle
Sabiplz
WindwardAway
Alison

How are Sabi, Winward and Alison at the bottom of your PoE?

[Dyslexicon]

I think it's unsorted

Anyway

Things are written

Good night, friends ^^

[Sabiplz]

[RondoDimBuckle]

The more I read into Caitlin the less i like

#379 Seanzie lock town btw, tell west facility all this totally useful information

You know what would be cool, that we get moved to whatever the other facility is on fay 2 so we get to read what went down there and the same for them.

Yeah actually that would be kinda cool, unfortunately that isn't what happened in Severance when there was a split there, but I won as wolf in that game, was easy because my thread was pretty dead so i could just chill out and blend in with not too much effort

team work makes the dream work

[Cape90]

I agree with Sabi's take that leetic has been very obvious wolf, but we are stuck sabi (this is a pocket attempt)

[Sabiplz]

I agree with Sabi's take that leetic has been very obvious wolf, but we are stuck sabi (this is a pocket attempt)

Squint

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow

oh wait maybe nanook can be town

...for playing pathfinder??

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow

DnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?

Yes <3

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

Obviously if you have paid attention to the game and any football stadium this game is mimicking ted lasso in a way and if there is an easy facility which we are in the implication is the other team (which if you read the fluff has split off into) must be in the west facility. This is bad.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'm playing pathfinder tonight but I'll be vaguely around tomorrow

DnD for me wanna TTRPG mason?

Yes <3

ok I will nat 20 you and you nat 1 me in bts and hopefully we break the game

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

Obviously if you have paid attention to the game and any football stadium this game is mimicking ted lasso in a way and if there is an easy facility which we are in the implication is the other team (which if you read the fluff has split off into) must be in the west facility. This is bad.

Are you Cape90 or his lawyer?

[Guillotine]

It is not obvious to me at all, i dont even know who the fuck is ted whatever

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

Obviously if you have paid attention to the game and any football stadium this game is mimicking ted lasso in a way and if there is an easy facility which we are in the implication is the other team (which if you read the fluff has split off into) must be in the west facility. This is bad.

Are you Cape90 or his lawyer?

both judge. I am multi threading and multi accounting at the same time

Spoiler: show

for legal reasons this is a joke

[Cape90]

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine


@Cape90 how do you figure there is a west facility?

I only see this thread.

because there is East? You said yourself the thread was split in two

I assumed we are dealing in opposites because that's kind of Severance did with the whole home and work thing. It could be something else, but with no real theme of this game, I don't know why the split would not be like that

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine