Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [LEGION CONQUEST]

[Dunnstral]

Thanks for the fish.

Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.

@Scotty can you add Dunnstral to towncore lol.

Dunnstral is either towniest of towns or deepwolf, as I’ve said.

I don’t think there’s a middle ground. And I’m afraid to commit to either

I think Dunnstral and Falcon are actually a hard difference check.

I don't see how falcon being town would make me mafia. With that being said, I do scumread falcon and it is worse if lime coke and seanzie are both town which is where I am leaning right now.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

As for you Macdougall I still think it's weird you're seemingly reading the game for the first time when you've made comments about mafia inactivity

[Scotty]

For those who missed it, Sig's role was guaranteed to be in the game for the town alignment as per the opening posts, which is a stronger ability than what their role actually did. So if they had claimed their role/flavor I'd have pointed that out and motioned for us to eliminate elsewhere. Us eliminating them probably wasn't considered in the balance of the setup so we are at a stronger disadvantage than usual, mafia effectively had three night kills while we killed nobody.

I’m optimistic, personally.

Because often times on the site if we eliminate mafia D1, town loses. Dunno why that seems to happen, but

[MacDougall]

Thanks for the fish.

Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.

@Scotty can you add Dunnstral to towncore lol.

Dunnstral is either towniest of towns or deepwolf, as I’ve said.

I don’t think there’s a middle ground. And I’m afraid to commit to either

I think Dunnstral and Falcon are actually a hard difference check.

I don't see how falcon being town would make me mafia. With that being said, I do scumread falcon and it is worse if lime coke and seanzie are both town which is where I am leaning right now.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

As for you Macdougall I still think it's weird you're seemingly reading the game for the first time when you've made comments about mafia inactivity

It is more because if Falcon is town I feel like his read on you has incredible merit because Falcon is kind of uncanny at no scoping deepwolves when he's barely paying attention. The fact you both scumread each other confidently regularly means that it's unlikely you're both wrong. You are a lot townier than him hence he's hard POE and you aren't, but I'd be pretty likely to sheep him and hard reeval you if he turns out to be town, especially when you say derpy shit like shading me repeatedly over the most NAI shit in the universe.

[Scotty]

This actually feels like backed up town Brad tbh. Which surprises me, I was fairly confident he was mafia here. But this is not how he reacts to being pressured by me usually.

Feels like overly cross and frustrated Brad. Caught for flimsy reasons

[MacDougall]

To speak specifically to it being "weird" that I am "reading the game for the first time".

I took the day off work today and the previous two days I was very busy at work, then got written off drunk at a concert, then was blindingly hungover and still working.

Today I have freedom, I had a giant meltdown from stress and pressure and decided that rolling into hard solving and being town Mac was good therapy. So here I am and you're getting the best of me. Be grateful.

I have no idea how in the context it matters what I said while half paying attention on day 1. My day 1 posts and reads were probably shit as fuck. Who cares. Deal with it.

[MacDougall]

This actually feels like backed up town Brad tbh. Which surprises me, I was fairly confident he was mafia here. But this is not how he reacts to being pressured by me usually.

Feels like overly cross and frustrated Brad. Caught for flimsy reasons

No, it feels like pissed off town Brad. Wolf Brad is not usually remotely as surly. His first post there when he said its okay to push him but please dont push precious Chelsea is right out of his wolf playbook but then he got stroppy and started slangin insults. Brad tries very hard not to line cross because he loves mafia and the community and hates getting banned and he has a lot easier time controlling his emotions as a wolf than he does as a townie I think. Also I think his values mean he actually outright refuses to be salty and obnoxious as mafia on purpose ie. he doesn't weaponise ATE, so when he has it it's genuine.

You may be right and he's genuinely pissed about being pushed by Seanzie as a wolf, that's plausible. But I've been quite reasonable and giving him some olive branches that I think wolf Brad would have taken the opportunity to grasp onto and he kinda didn't, kinda spat at me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Play nice.

[Scotty]

This actually feels like backed up town Brad tbh. Which surprises me, I was fairly confident he was mafia here. But this is not how he reacts to being pressured by me usually.

Feels like overly cross and frustrated Brad. Caught for flimsy reasons

No, it feels like pissed off town Brad. Wolf Brad is not usually remotely as surly. His first post there when he said its okay to push him but please dont push precious Chelsea is right out of his wolf playbook but then he got stroppy and started slangin insults. Brad tries very hard not to line cross because he loves mafia and the community and hates getting banned and he has a lot easier time controlling his emotions as a wolf than he does as a townie I think. Also I think his values mean he actually outright refuses to be salty and obnoxious as mafia on purpose ie. he doesn't weaponise ATE, so when he has it it's genuine.

You may be right and he's genuinely pissed about being pushed by Seanzie as a wolf, that's plausible. But I've been quite reasonable and giving him some olive branches that I think wolf Brad would have taken the opportunity to grasp onto and he kinda didn't, kinda spat at me.

I’ll take it into consideration.

I just generally try not to let AtE get in the way of suspecting someone.
If it really is just an out of character admission for wolf, then sure, I could move.

I don’t think Seanzie and Lime Coke are teamed at least

[Lime Coke]

I mean if I extract Brad from the POE and take his Chelsea townread... Falcon/Jack/Creature is a perfectly plausible trio of a POE.

@Lime Coke do you have a townread on any of these guys?

Only Jack in those three.

[Scotty]

As a life update I am now wanted by the Seminole Nation

And he was never heard from again.

[MacDougall]

This actually feels like backed up town Brad tbh. Which surprises me, I was fairly confident he was mafia here. But this is not how he reacts to being pressured by me usually.

Feels like overly cross and frustrated Brad. Caught for flimsy reasons

No, it feels like pissed off town Brad. Wolf Brad is not usually remotely as surly. His first post there when he said its okay to push him but please dont push precious Chelsea is right out of his wolf playbook but then he got stroppy and started slangin insults. Brad tries very hard not to line cross because he loves mafia and the community and hates getting banned and he has a lot easier time controlling his emotions as a wolf than he does as a townie I think. Also I think his values mean he actually outright refuses to be salty and obnoxious as mafia on purpose ie. he doesn't weaponise ATE, so when he has it it's genuine.

You may be right and he's genuinely pissed about being pushed by Seanzie as a wolf, that's plausible. But I've been quite reasonable and giving him some olive branches that I think wolf Brad would have taken the opportunity to grasp onto and he kinda didn't, kinda spat at me.

I’ll take it into consideration.

I just generally try not to let AtE get in the way of suspecting someone.
If it really is just an out of character admission for wolf, then sure, I could move.

I don’t think Seanzie and Lime Coke are teamed at least

This is an entirely incorrect way to view it. I am not letting ATE get in the way of suspecting him. I am permitting myself to read him as town in spite of it because the specific context of how he is posting is more aligned to my expectation of town Brad than mafia Brad. Particularly in how he is dealing with me. You'll note I didn't townread him for omgussing Seanzie.

[Scotty]

Will catch up a few hours before EoD because I was banned from mafia for the holiday :^)

Were you wanted by the Seminole nation too?

[VOTE: Chelsea] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

I have Scotty town from early aggression on SOD1 I haven't read much beyond that.

[Lime Coke]

Like yeah if I throw a scumread out there it's probably going to be a complete guess.

I would just toss a vote on like TSP, Falcon, or...Long Con I guess?

[Lime Coke]

I had a different third name but forgot it.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Like yeah if I throw a scumread out there it's probably going to be a complete guess.

I would just toss a vote on like TSP, Falcon, or...Long Con I guess?

Hence why I asked for you to focus on townreads.

[MacDougall]

If Falcon is in your PoE, it's a better idea to be voting him and keeping the wagons readable than just yoloing onto a random slot to create an extra wagon imo.

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Fair

[Dunnstral]

Thanks for the fish.


Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.

@Scotty can you add Dunnstral to towncore lol.

Dunnstral is either towniest of towns or deepwolf, as I’ve said.

I don’t think there’s a middle ground. And I’m afraid to commit to either

I think Dunnstral and Falcon are actually a hard difference check.

I don't see how falcon being town would make me mafia. With that being said, I do scumread falcon and it is worse if lime coke and seanzie are both town which is where I am leaning right now.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

As for you Macdougall I still think it's weird you're seemingly reading the game for the first time when you've made comments about mafia inactivity

It is more because if Falcon is town I feel like his read on you has incredible merit because Falcon is kind of uncanny at no scoping deepwolves when he's barely paying attention. The fact you both scumread each other confidently regularly means that it's unlikely you're both wrong. You are a lot townier than him hence he's hard POE and you aren't, but I'd be pretty likely to sheep him and hard reeval you if he turns out to be town, especially when you say derpy shit like shading me repeatedly over the most NAI shit in the universe.

Well I like what you are doing today. Which leads to me voting Falcon and not you. I don't remember if I've been confidently scumreading falcon, I think I had them at lower middle internally but not sure if I outted that.

[Dunnstral]

I did not like Epignosis returning their vote on Seanzie. They didn't explain their vote the first time.Actually they haven't really said anything for a while.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Vote :LC

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oops other people are doing this as well

[TonyStarkPrime]

I wanted to be unique

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean there’s just literal salad in the thread

[TonyStarkPrime]

I will read the Lime iso and evaluate whether or not I’m being silly at a later date (possibly never, setting expectations low here)

[Dunnstral]

What are you currently voting them for?

[Chelsea]

Right, well obviously I couldn't make it. (Spending time with loved ones over mafia, worst choice of my life.)

Very interesting end results, I'll have to make personal vote counts due to how awful the layout for the ones here are.

Don't know how I feel about Mac probably being 0/3? Feels like they were wanting to chainsaw onto Brad because they know for a fact they can't incorrectly read me as a wolf without getting into a losing Thunderdome, will keep an eye on that.

Tony/Falcon/Scotty are my prime vote targets while I was reading in the night.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Chelsea]

Falcon I just want to play more, it's the slot you probably want to vig shoot over exeing because there's just nothing in it. The can't make lylo player until they post well. . .any opinion. (Curious as I wasn't expecting Lime and Dunnstral to also be on here. Did Dunn's LHF clause only count for D1?)

I have Longcon as a villager because they're not wolf with Mac or Scotty and if both those slots are a villager with how high volume of their. . .confidence we're in trouble. (I think Scotty's wolf equality is pretty high though) Independent of that the convo with Lanmisa felt pretty good so yeah.

[Chelsea]

So yeah we should vote Tony and Falcon until they do something and then just shift the vote to like, Scotty or Sean.

Jack gets 1 more phase (maybe 2) to do the thing.

[Manny]

I think falcon is way more likely than not villa btw.
I still think Lan is an IC
Mac and Creature can still be town

I kinda wanna kill Chels but im too much of a coward to actually push that today so i'd settle for TSP or Epi ig.

[Dunnstral]

Falcon I just want to play more, it's the slot you probably want to vig shoot over exeing because there's just nothing in it. The can't make lylo player until they post well. . .any opinion. (Curious as I wasn't expecting Lime and Dunnstral to also be on here. Did Dunn's LHF clause only count for D1?)

I have Longcon as a villager because they're not wolf with Mac or Scotty and if both those slots are a villager with how high volume of their. . .confidence we're in trouble. (I think Scotty's wolf equality is pretty high though) Independent of that the convo with Lanmisa felt pretty good so yeah.

I'm not voting them for low posting, and I don't think anybody else is either.

[Chelsea]

I think falcon is way more likely than not villa btw.
I still think Lan is an IC
Mac and Creature can still be town

I kinda wanna kill Chels but im too much of a coward to actually push that today so i'd settle for TSP or Epi ig.

If you think I'm a wolf you can push me don't back down just because we're pals.

What in Falcon or tony's iso makes them not rand to you and why is Mac town?

[Chelsea]

Falcon I just want to play more, it's the slot you probably want to vig shoot over exeing because there's just nothing in it. The can't make lylo player until they post well. . .any opinion. (Curious as I wasn't expecting Lime and Dunnstral to also be on here. Did Dunn's LHF clause only count for D1?)

I have Longcon as a villager because they're not wolf with Mac or Scotty and if both those slots are a villager with how high volume of their. . .confidence we're in trouble. (I think Scotty's wolf equality is pretty high though) Independent of that the convo with Lanmisa felt pretty good so yeah.

I'm not voting them for low posting, and I don't think anybody else is either.

I don't think anything in falcon's iso is an alignment initiative but perhaps I'm more lenient or have higher degree's for what I consider AI. if you think there's something I am blatantly missing let me know.

[Manny]

What in Falcon or tony's iso makes them not rand to you and why is Mac town?

Ill wait for Falcon to start postting to re-confirm my read or back off from it.
Mac just reminds me of me my semifinals champs game and he was V there.

It doesnt really have to do with us being pals and moreso that if im wrong and i actually get u killed is probably some degree of gamelosing and if you are actually a wolf i can /probably/ get around to it later.

[Manny]

Also i saw Mac earlier saying wolves doing 2 nk's but both nk's arent necessarily wolves, could be 3p for one of them.

[Chelsea]

What in Falcon or tony's iso makes them not rand to you and why is Mac town?

Ill wait for Falcon to start postting to re-confirm my read or back off from it.
Mac just reminds me of me my semifinals champs game and he was V there.

It doesnt really have to do with us being pals and moreso that if im wrong and i actually get u killed is probably some degree of gamelosing and if you are actually a wolf i can /probably/ get around to it later.

A shame, and I was looking forward to seeing you try to construct a wolf read on me it would've been a fun read considering my own opinion on the matter.

As for Falcon, are you saying they are doing a wolfy pattern that you're trying to see continues or you want to be sure on the read before pushing it?

[Manny]

A shame, and I was looking forward to seeing you try to construct a wolf read on me it would've been a fun read considering my own opinion on the matter.

As for Falcon, are you saying they are doing a wolfy pattern that you're trying to see continues or you want to be sure on the read before pushing it?

blame the fact that it also requires more work from me than just defaulting to my other two mind poe people

Im saying that im not explaining my read on them before they post, take it as u will.

[Manny]

I also kinda wanna see Seanzie post a bit for unrelated reasons

[Chelsea]

A shame, and I was looking forward to seeing you try to construct a wolf read on me it would've been a fun read considering my own opinion on the matter.

As for Falcon, are you saying they are doing a wolfy pattern that you're trying to see continues or you want to be sure on the read before pushing it?

blame the fact that it also requires more work from me than just defaulting to my other two mind poe people

Im saying that im not explaining my read on them before they post, take it as u will.

That's the mean reason I don't push scotty so I get it even though you couldn't push me over if you tried

Alright, I expect a read update after they post or I'm taking this as you playing backseat.

[Chelsea]

Besides my main townreads I'm actually pretty flexible read wise yet you always give me the cold shoulder. You're gonna break my heart Manny.

Maybe I should take this as a town tell considering what I've heard of your wolfgame.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh boy this game is a fun one isn't it

I'm high and tired so let's all just be chill to each other, peace and love and shit

[Chelsea]

NANOOK IS HERE?

MY GOAT.

HIIIIIII IT'S BEEN TOO LONG <3333

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

NANOOK IS HERE?

MY GOAT.

HIIIIIII IT'S BEEN TOO LONG <3333

Ayyyyyy

Sup?? <3

[Chelsea]

NANOOK IS HERE?

MY GOAT.

HIIIIIII IT'S BEEN TOO LONG <3333

Ayyyyyy

Sup?? <3

Not much, finishing paperwork, eating a brownie.

Mafia sux go find them for me so I can sheep o7

[Manny]

Alright, I expect a read update after they post or I'm taking this as you playing backseat.

i am playing backseat regardless of wether i make a read after falcon posts or doesnt :curtain:

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

NANOOK IS HERE?

MY GOAT.

HIIIIIII IT'S BEEN TOO LONG <3333

Ayyyyyy

Sup?? <3

Not much, finishing paperwork, eating a brownie.

Mafia sux go find them for me so I can sheep o7

Idk I'd have to read more than broseph and Brad going back and forth while Brad takes potshots at every other dude in the game and that seems like work smhsmh

[Chelsea]

Alright, I expect a read update after they post or I'm taking this as you playing backseat.

i am playing backseat regardless of wether i make a read after falcon posts or doesnt :curtain:

If your slot makes end game with posts like this I'm gonna be salty.

[Chelsea]

NANOOK IS HERE?

MY GOAT.

HIIIIIII IT'S BEEN TOO LONG <3333

Ayyyyyy

Sup?? <3

Not much, finishing paperwork, eating a brownie.

Mafia sux go find them for me so I can sheep o7

Idk I'd have to read more than broseph and Brad going back and forth while Brad takes potshots at every other dude in the game and that seems like work smhsmh

Brad takes potshots at everyone that isn't a woman.

But good news me and him are both in our town meta come join the towncore baby with Lanmisa <3

[Manny]

If your slot makes end game with posts like this I'm gonna be salty.

Salt is bad for your health, please reconsider.

Im also prolly going to die before d5, i just dont know yet if its gonna be nk'd or miss-exed