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Wow the content has been slim so far that’s not great. Though we do have one more day so whatever
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Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:19 pm LC seems unassuming. Maybe a bit too blendy.

I don’t have any weird marks for Roxy with her YouTube farts

SVS at face value is civ-like. Part of the thread, seems engaged for sake of engagement and not because she has to. If that makes sense.

Sig speaks for himself

Yes he does.

And he says he’s a civ so you should all ignore him forever as he coasts to either victory or defeat
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Okay let’s see, not much content so far which makes it harder.

Scotty is looking good for his posts
DDL is active at least so that’s good.
Falcon I’ll be able to tell within a phase or two I hope, but I’ll give Give him a slight civ read
SVS gets a civ pass for not gaslighting me and explaining there was a 10 post cap. I like some people (DDL) :eye:
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:05 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:20 am @S~V~S maybe Scottt is mistaking a post Sig made in scumchat for one he made here?
Isn’t Scotty softing a pr, there be masons in this matrix and also slips don’t actually exist.
I guess he could be. Scotty doesn't do much subtle, imo, he's pretty direct.

I didn't really think it was a "slip" like he knows better. I was teamed with him recently and he's pretty aware of where teammates are threadwise, he would be unlikely to make a mistake like that. And I've seen a few slips (once this girl, SoFi, was PMing her team to get in chat something was happeneing they needed to talk about, and she posted it in the thread by mistake. Said all their names and everything. Oops!)

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Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:19 pm LC seems unassuming. Maybe a bit too blendy.

I don’t have any weird marks for Roxy with her YouTube farts

SVS at face value is civ-like. Part of the thread, seems engaged for sake of engagement and not because she has to. If that makes sense.

Sig speaks for himself
Sig hadn't made any posts when you said this? He's only made one post, that one up there ^^ a few hours after this. Did I miss some context?

nope, you be right
Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:57 pm Ok mech note:

This game favors the mafia at face value if mafia exactly repeat the death of a player they are killing and making it ‘NK player has been killed and was vanilla civ’.

It’s mostly a waste to use someone else that isn’t dead because they’ll still appear in the poll. So it’s only adding chaos for town to be info-leaning in their fake post.

It’s basically a free janitor, unless I’m reading it wrong. So that’s cool for them.
But you don't have to use it for that, a faux host post. You can say whatever you like as i read it. You can anon info dump, or whatever. Like "There is a cop in this game" , or "Player X is Mafia". Although that could help the bads, especially early days. And you'd have to be really careful about wording as blandly as possible.

Based on their own roles, the baddies will know we have one of two possible set ups. It will also be harder for the SK if they don't know which set up we have. So if you insist on yoloing, wait until there has been a PR flip. But i don't see how town benefits from any pre flip claims.

I was assuming that people would be using it for fake claiming, to keep the wolves in the dark as long as possible, and fake out the SK. It's a chaos element (have you met Wilgy?) and "Player X is dead, he's Vanilla Civ" times 12 is kinda meh.

Unless I am misunderstanding your point. Which is hella possible lol.

Ah, there’s a better use for town, for sure. I just figured anyone can put anything and even if an info role put their true info in there, the advent of chaos just decreases the viability for town usefulness on the whole.

Like if we were playing a D&D campaign and every player but 1 was playing chaotic neutral, the main quest would be completed in spite of the chaos machines.
This is mainly why I read the set up so closely. I've played several Wilgy games, and there are always experimental and/or chaos elements.

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Re: Help! Hostage Host! [D1]

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I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.
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Oh and DDL. Hes doing both lolcatting and trying to be topical. I'd put him in my "Unlikely to vote for them" category with Scotty.
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sig wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:34 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 12:05 pm Being able to express opinions with finite posts is certainly a skill that I’m rusty with but knee-jerk judgments I will make. And that will suffice.

I’m willing to say I feel pretty ok with everyone that has posted so far. I’m going to avoid metas as much as possible this game since I feel like I’ve been in the state penitentiary for a couple years regarding *playing* mafia.

But boy I can’t wait to hogtie the host up. Sounds like a fun time! 🥰

I don’t understand why you’re avoiding meta reads?
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:33 am LC memorable? I'd say his presence is about similar to Roxy's but with a higher text to image ratio.
Case and point

I’m often in spaces where I can’t watch videos so I don’t usually open video links. So whenever someone posts content comprised entirely of a video, it’s akin to someone running into the room, yelling ‘BLUE’ then jumping out the window
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:36 am Scot is definitely playing the town leader here which is not something Im used to from him but probably been at least half a decade since our last game together.

I don't automatically trust town leaders but I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt for a while, since it's a hard position for mafia to be in without slipping. That said with this game's activity level, the bar to clear to be a town leader is low.

So scot = lean town. Everyone else = meh.
It’s a sad state of the thread when I’m town leader. I’m holding back so I don’t spam all my 80 posts in sequence before sig has a chance to fart
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Re: Help! Hostage Host! [D1]

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:56 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 7:58 am
Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:57 pm Ok mech note:

This game favors the mafia at face value if mafia exactly repeat the death of a player they are killing and making it ‘NK player has been killed and was vanilla civ’.

It’s mostly a waste to use someone else that isn’t dead because they’ll still appear in the poll. So it’s only adding chaos for town to be info-leaning in their fake post.

It’s basically a free janitor, unless I’m reading it wrong. So that’s cool for them.
I gotta stop skimming setup posts.
:ponder:
What did you take out of the setup post in your skim if not the very essence of this game?
The serial killer role and that Wilgy was a 2 shot doctor (ish). :p
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sig wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:38 pm Wow the content has been slim so far that’s not great. Though we do have one more day so whatever
Be the content

Cosplay as the content
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sig wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:40 pm Okay let’s see, not much content so far which makes it harder.

Scotty is looking good for his posts
DDL is active at least so that’s good.
Falcon I’ll be able to tell within a phase or two I hope, but I’ll give Give him a slight civ read
SVS gets a civ pass for not gaslighting me and explaining there was a 10 post cap. I like some people (DDL) :eye:
What about my posts makes me good?
Why is DDL being active mean he’s good? Is there a relationship between activity and alignment for him? Honestly don’t remember (and not doing meta reads this time anyway)
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:45 pm Be the content you wish to create.
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S~V~S wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:43 pm I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.
You know, I’m with you on Michelle. Meta aside, her minimal posts ring hollow

I didn’t get snappy Porscha. Matter of fact, this post
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
feels hedgy and almost appeasing

‘Not giving the wolves ideas’? Please, wolves have a hive mind. They’re more likely to come up with better ideas than I am with more heads.
Then coming back in the same breath to shrug it off makes for a pretty lackluster post
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Re: Help! Hostage Host! [D1]

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[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I don't like whining about thread's activity and not adding activity.

I wanna see some cosplaying.
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My only experience with Porscha was my last scum game which also happened to be the scum performance of my life, and ended with a Porscha misyeet at Lylo.

I don't remember it very clearly but if my memory doesn't fail me, the entire thing was a long term project of mine to make people slowly suspect Porscha.

So I'm scared of misyeeting her cuz I know she's that kind of player who is misyeetable (I can't believe this word exists).
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But I barely remember details. I think she made some dumb tells? Or am I mistaking her with someone else?

Gah, I have terrible memory for this stuff.
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So that friend I was gonna try to link this thread to, just called me a weirdo after I described the game and showed zero interest in spectating.

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[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Granted, activity is kinda low in general but Michelle at least has a meta activity tell.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:37 pm So that friend I was gonna try to link this thread to, just called me a weirdo after I described the game and showed zero interest in spectating.

:why:
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Crickets/oh no what happened to my avatar it’s gone!
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Oh there it is nm
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:09 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Granted, activity is kinda low in general but Michelle at least has a meta activity tell.
Not anymore. Keep yourself updated.
Otoh you should know I don't post like I used to, we played recently.
Your vote are rushed and the use of meta is wrong, can I know why?



And good morning! I had a horrible day yday and I was AFK most of the day, I tried to catch up at one moment but I couldn't.
If anyone is here, AMA.
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:26 pm Crickets/oh no what happened to my avatar it’s gone!
You're focused on avas, do you find anything in my own, like a reason I choose it, for eg?
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Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:31 am
Michelle wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:12 am
Long Con wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:23 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:19 pm LC seems unassuming. Maybe a bit too blendy.
Nah, just blendy enough! Trust me bro.
I forgot about the game :pout:

But catching up I find the coloured part suspicious

Disguised as a joke, the idea of trust in mafia is pretty dangerous.
I’d let him watch my kids.

I don’t have kids, but that’s besides the point
That's a trust in him as a person and I agree with it.

I'll give him time for now in this game
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Who bought (I hope) the rope?
Poll runs till Fri May 24, 2024 12:00 am
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You may select 1 option


Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
1
14%
Voters: Long Con
Long Con
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No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
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Voters: Jackofhearts2005
Porscha
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14%
Voters: Scotty
Roxy
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No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
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No votes
Voters: None
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Voters: Dragon D. Luffy
S~V~S
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No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
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No votes
Voters: None
Someone going camping (non player)
3
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Voters: DrWilgy, Syn, Epignosis
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[VOTE: Sig] aubergine
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:25 am
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:22 am
Michelle wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:14 am I should read the OP..

After work tho
I also should but I dunno when I really will tbh lol. maybe tomorrow night after work

also yes long con , per usual, sounds wolfy

I have only been right on the read once thoughtso I guess i'm just destined to paranoid cop long con for eternity
Why does he sound wolfy
by virtue of existing and me perceiving him, probably
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:27 am
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
Do you suspect Scotty for it.

I had a thought that I am refraining from sharing at the moment
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:30 am
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
I have considered. Your concern is noted, albeit I’m not convinced it isn’t a feigned concern. Like even the backpedaling where you presume it’s a bad idea but then in the same breath seem to push the philosophy that maybe it’s good because I think it is…rings hollow
where did I say it was a bad idea
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:21 pm
S~V~S wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:43 pm I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.
You know, I’m with you on Michelle. Meta aside, her minimal posts ring hollow

I didn’t get snappy Porscha. Matter of fact, this post
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
feels hedgy and almost appeasing

‘Not giving the wolves ideas’? Please, wolves have a hive mind. They’re more likely to come up with better ideas than I am with more heads.
Then coming back in the same breath to shrug it off makes for a pretty lackluster post
scotty you're protesting about your own problem that you created quite lot and if you'd like to be productive you should probably focus somewhere else
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 10:33 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:27 am
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
Do you suspect Scotty for it.
Nah, see at the end there she trusts that what I’m saying is true because I said it.

:epig:
can't believe you gave away the wolf strategy immediately upon game start tbh

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:42 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:26 pm
S~V~S wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:21 pm What is Trails, and Elmo Village?

Scotty wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 12:29 am N[o]

Hi yall,
Are we allowed to claim in this game?
Probably not a great idea, this sounds a bit like a Serial Soup Killer.
- Silly Serial Kill - At night, you may select a player and choose either a role OR one of the messages provided in the previous end of night post. IF that player is correctly chosen as that non-vanilla role OR the submitter of said message they will be night killed. This night kill will be strongmaned and may not be prevented.
It’s an anime video game about boobs. DDL is big into it.
Understatement of the year tbh. It's the best thing I've played in years.

And your Bestelle avatar is perfect (though you're stealing my idea) so imma remove the vote for now.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I used to have fun bickering with him. Let's see if we can do this again.
S~V~S wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:30 pm Well then I’m surprised we even see him at all.
(that's a joke, it's not about boobs)

I don't bicker, I debate with a snarky tone






Also, nice to see you again
get him boys
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:35 pm But I barely remember details. I think she made some dumb tells? Or am I mistaking her with someone else?

Gah, I have terrible memory for this stuff.
me you and illwei I think lol. or maybe there was someone else and we miselimmed illwei and then I got hammered by you and last person before I even entered thread. you played a really good game
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Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(
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Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
To me, Jack and LC look similar. Jack has more game related content. LC has pretty much only been romping.

Why do you have LC in your "won't vote" pile, but not Jack?

You went on to vote for sig. Why? This is your only mention of him prior to voting for him. Is it a place holder? Or do you think sig, with 2 posts less than LC, all pretty much topical, is actually all that sus?

I am not saying I find LC suspish; I find him null. If that goes more than a day, I might find him suspish, but there is nothing to base that on. Just like there is nothing to base putting him in a no vote position either. You left Roxy, Splints and TSP off list. Splints hasn't posted, Rox has 2 video posts frolicking with DDL and here's TSPs ISO:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:06 pm Who’s here

So you obviously have null reads.

I guess finding him on your list as anywhere but null, combined with that sig vote, calls the rest of it into question for me.
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Scotty wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:21 pm
S~V~S wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:43 pm I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.
You know, I’m with you on Michelle. Meta aside, her minimal posts ring hollow

I didn’t get snappy Porscha. Matter of fact, this post
Porscha wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 1:30 am scotty have you considered not yolo'ing your role for the serial killer for fun or also not giving the wolves ideas (I dont know if it's a good one, you just talk like it is so I assume it is)
feels hedgy and almost appeasing

‘Not giving the wolves ideas’? Please, wolves have a hive mind. They’re more likely to come up with better ideas than I am with more heads.
Then coming back in the same breath to shrug it off makes for a pretty lackluster post
I dunno, she seems pretty snappy, mainly at you :cloud9:

And a wolf team is only as creative as it's members are involved. I've seen teams where the members literally only show up in chat to discuss kills. No strategizing, no brainstorming. Not every team is the Arbiters. So even if some wolves are a hive mind, it's still a good idea not to point out their tools for them.
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I find this argument about whether we should help wolves not very productive at best and a complete waste of time at worse. It's NAI.

Scotty did what might be a blunder. Let's move on.
Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 am And good morning! I had a horrible day yday and I was AFK most of the day, I tried to catch up at one moment but I couldn't.
If anyone is here, AMA.
Sorry to hear you had a bad day. I hope today is better.

Porscha wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:38 am
Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(
From what I gather she actually means lc and falcon are neutral. EVeryone's neutral or bad except Scotty.

Now why are some people in her list neutral and others bad, she didn't really explain.
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Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
To me, Jack and LC look similar. Jack has more game related content. LC has pretty much only been romping.

Why do you have LC in your "won't vote" pile, but not Jack?

You went on to vote for sig. Why? This is your only mention of him prior to voting for him. Is it a place holder? Or do you think sig, with 2 posts less than LC, all pretty much topical, is actually all that sus?

I am not saying I find LC suspish; I find him null. If that goes more than a day, I might find him suspish, but there is nothing to base that on. Just like there is nothing to base putting him in a no vote position either. You left Roxy, Splints and TSP off list. Splints hasn't posted, Rox has 2 video posts frolicking with DDL and here's TSPs ISO:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:06 pm Who’s here

So you obviously have null reads.

I guess finding him on your list as anywhere but null, combined with that sig vote, calls the rest of it into question for me.
I like you for the tone of this post, but I'm not sure how much I agree with you. I always think hunting based on activity is playing roulette. The fact some players are not playing shouldn't be a reason to let others who are, get away scot free.

Of course, if the game goes on and some players have zero activity with no hopes of replacement, it falls into town's hands to finish them off. But now? I'd rather focus on people who are playing.
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S~V~S wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 5:43 pm I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.
Update, as of now I realize Epi si not playing this game, lol. I saw he had a post so I stuck him on my "Need to hear more!" list; doh.

I still want to hear more from Michelle; we don't always agree, but when we don't, I generally understand her POV. I don't understand it here.

Rox is still a null for me, low/no activity in spurts is NAI for her, if anything radio silence could slightly lean town for me since she's generally a responsible baddie who doesn't want to let her team down.

TSP also null, like Roxy he shows up in clusters. LC all lulz all the time, still null. Splints no posts, so no idea. Falcon no real topical content.

No change re feelings for Scotty, I feel better about Porscha even if he doesn't. DDL, still mildly nullish verging on towny, but mostly towny.

My no vote right now is Scotty, Porscha, DDL. My unlikely votes are sig and Jack. Rox, TSP, Splints and Falcon are full nulls for me. LC is also null, but this is all very weird, it's not something I expect from him.

I don't like yeeting low posters solely for being low posters. But i also feel like that kinda penalizes the active people for being active, by making them the voting pool, especially on Day One. I don't have to vote now, but i will have to vote early since I get out of work 1/2 hour before EOD and I'll be in traffic when it ends. If I had to vote now, it would prolly be Michelle.

Linki @DDL. I get that, and I don't like yeeting low posters in general. But i also get annoyed that the people who are doing all the talking get their posts picked apart becasue ... they're doing all the talking.
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Also @Dragon D. Luffy I almost never agree with anyone day one :shrug: , I've never been one to find that disagreeing with a person doesn't mean we're not both town. I never understodd how some people go straight from "We disagree" to "You're bad!!". I used to be more aggro about pushing my POV, but that's pointless Day One especially.
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Porscha wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 3:38 am
Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(
They're not reads, they are who I would and wouldn't vote.
If i wanted to vote you, i would, but I think Sig is more probably to flip mafia.
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S~V~S wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:08 am
Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:51 am Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.
To me, Jack and LC look similar. Jack has more game related content. LC has pretty much only been romping.

Why do you have LC in your "won't vote" pile, but not Jack?

You went on to vote for sig. Why? This is your only mention of him prior to voting for him. Is it a place holder? Or do you think sig, with 2 posts less than LC, all pretty much topical, is actually all that sus?

I am not saying I find LC suspish; I find him null. If that goes more than a day, I might find him suspish, but there is nothing to base that on. Just like there is nothing to base putting him in a no vote position either. You left Roxy, Splints and TSP off list. Splints hasn't posted, Rox has 2 video posts frolicking with DDL and here's TSPs ISO:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 4:06 pm Who’s here

So you obviously have null reads.

I guess finding him on your list as anywhere but null, combined with that sig vote, calls the rest of it into question for me.
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Actually both SVD and DDL deserve to be on my town reads and Porscha out of who I would vote today
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Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:19 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 8:09 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Granted, activity is kinda low in general but Michelle at least has a meta activity tell.
Not anymore. Keep yourself updated.
Otoh you should know I don't post like I used to, we played recently.
Your vote are rushed and the use of meta is wrong, can I know why?



And good morning! I had a horrible day yday and I was AFK most of the day, I tried to catch up at one moment but I couldn't.
If anyone is here, AMA.
You gotta stop doing this.

Someone: Michelle is meta bad
Michelle: My meta has changed
Michelle has been yeeted. She was a wolf.

This has happened like 8 times.

What happened yesterday?
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Michelle wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 12:25 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 11:26 pm Crickets/oh no what happened to my avatar it’s gone!
You're focused on avas, do you find anything in my own, like a reason I choose it, for eg?
Ngl, I spent a good while just looking at it but that's not really game related.
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S~V~S wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 5:17 am I dunno, she seems pretty snappy, mainly at you :cloud9:

And a wolf team is only as creative as it's members are involved. I've seen teams where the members literally only show up in chat to discuss kills. No strategizing, no brainstorming. Not every team is the Arbiters. So even if some wolves are a hive mind, it's still a good idea not to point out their tools for them.
The best wolf teams are ones that spend a ton of time chatting. So the best wolf teams are teams with Mac in them.
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A word on TSP. Several times in recent games, I have pushed him for being too quiet and he got yeeted and he was town.

I'm not saying Tony is town. Far from it. I think he's just particularly not a player we want to push for being quiet itg.
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