Help! Hostage Host! [WOLF WIN]

[Michelle]

He has no contribution, nothing at all.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Is there any reason for the falcon votes?

I don’t see anything at all

Me neither.

And yet you’re voting him?

Yeah.

Seriously.

There is NOTHING to say about falcon.

At all.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

Who bought (I hope) the rope?
Poll runs till Fri May 24, 2024 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
1
9%
Voters: Roxy
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
2
18%
Voters: Scotty, Long Con
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
3
27%
Voters: S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, falcon45ca
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
1
9%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy
S~V~S
1
9%
Voters: Michelle
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Someone going camping (non player)
3
27%
Voters: DrWilgy, Syn, Epignosis
Total votes: 11

VC

I'm really glad you posted this and it's not your fault that "Michelle, Jack town" is the only thing I would draw from this if I assume you're right re: wolves not under pressure at all.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm gonna change my vote before deadline I just don't know who to yet.

[Michelle]

Jack what polarized means for you?

Means your towngame is over here and your wolfgame is over there. Polar opposites. Obvious as both alignments. See: Michelle, Creature

Contrast me, always being suspected as town and consistently the last standing wolf if wolves don't win and a surviving wolf if they do.

If you say so, looks like you are convinced.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Id yeet splints and TSP over falcon but those arent options.

Id yeet an actual suspect I have over him too but I have none. Everyone is either town or neutral. And both other wagons are meh.

So lets just kill a bird.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.

why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(

They're not reads, they are who I would and wouldn't vote.
If i wanted to vote you, i would, but I think Sig is more probably to flip mafia.

Nope this is a big massive red flag. Especially for this early in a game. It’s cover for someone flipping civ and leaves you with so much room to shift view

This is kinda gross.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sig is kind of full of shit but that tends to be a towntell for him tbh.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sorry Sig nothing personal

[sig]

Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.

why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(

They're not reads, they are who I would and wouldn't vote.
If i wanted to vote you, i would, but I think Sig is more probably to flip mafia.

Nope this is a big massive red flag. Especially for this early in a game. It’s cover for someone flipping civ and leaves you with so much room to shift view

This is kinda gross.

No this is kinda gross


Maybe I’m off base here, but as mafia especially in a smaller game you need cover for when the flip is wrong.

Saying your vote/current posts aren’t reads gives you an unending amount of wiggle room to

1. Change your view
2. Be absolved from a bad flip.


If you disagree feel free to explain, but it’s a big flag for ne

[sig]

Sig is kind of full of shit but that tends to be a towntell for him tbh.

Thanks…….i think

[Michelle]

Idk, I asked SVS if Sig tries as town to give reads. But she didn't answer..

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Town Sig is the Tinfoil King.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't suspect SVS at this point but there is a massive amount of lowkey disrespect for someone with a pretty damn good wolfgame.

[Michelle]

Scotty feels towny and that's the only solid read I have for now

No toDay's votes:
DDL
SVS
LC
Falcon

Pool of players I would vote
Jack
Porscha
Sig

The amount of 1 vote wagons shows that mafia doesn't care about them.

why lc and falcon townreads

a line on the sr's is helpful too

unless you plan on getting me ML'd again >:(

They're not reads, they are who I would and wouldn't vote.
If i wanted to vote you, i would, but I think Sig is more probably to flip mafia.

Nope this is a big massive red flag. Especially for this early in a game. It’s cover for someone flipping civ and leaves you with so much room to shift view

This is kinda gross.

No this is kinda gross


Maybe I’m off base here, but as mafia especially in a smaller game you need cover for when the flip is wrong.

Saying your vote/current posts aren’t reads gives you an unending amount of wiggle room to

1. Change your view
2. Be absolved from a bad flip.


If you disagree feel free to explain, but it’s a big flag for ne

Actually I skimmed some posts and never read the first pages, so I can't have reads. But I have a sense of where i'd go. It's towny if you know what's about.

[sig]

Idk, I asked SVS if Sig tries as town to give reads. But she didn't answer..

Have you read my posts?

There are multiple reads just because you don’t like the reads doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

[DrWilgy]

poll
Who bought (I hope) the rope?
Poll ended at Thu May 23, 2024 3:00 pm


Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
4
33%
Voters: Roxy, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy, Michelle
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
2
17%
Voters: Scotty, Long Con
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
3
25%
Voters: S~V~S, sig, falcon45ca
Porscha
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Someone going camping (non player)
3
25%
Voters: DrWilgy, Syn, Epignosis
Total votes: 12

[DrWilgy]

My kidnappers have spoken. Above Falcon, they flew overhead in a sausage-shaped UFO and beamed an intense laser! It incinerated Falcon immediately and left a hot dog in his place. The weird part is, it sounded like a hot dog too!

Oh... and then they bound me up with hot dog-smelling rope.

falcon45ca has been killed, they were town 1 shot Cop.

You have 23 hours to submit night actions and a message to be presented at start of day.

[DrWilgy]

Effective immediately Lilypetal will be substituting in for Fingersplints. Please do not discuss this substitution.

[DrWilgy]

A little under 5 hours until night actions are due.

[DrWilgy]

End of N1,

Hello this is your host DrWilgy, under no amount of coercion, here's the results from the night:

Dr Wilgy has been resurrected. Please do not discuss this resurrection

I love winners when they cry and losers when they try!

No one has died.

Sup gang, sig freud here.
dont fret that the cop is dead. We got this! Uwu

don’t trust that SVS. I still think DDL and the Scotsman are teammates. If I had a hunch, I’d say we’re in matrix 5, not the one with the vig.
Just saying. Tootles!

Silly SK 2 silly 2 catch me

!

TonyStarkPrime is vanilla town

No one has died.

S~v~S has been killed, they were town 1 shot Vig.

It is now D2, you have 48 hours and 80 more posts.

[S~V~S]

Idk, I asked SVS if Sig tries as town to give reads. But she didn't answer..

Um, I repeated several times that I would be AFK the last hour or so. So I didn't answer you. But why did you ask me; why didn't you read his (at that time) 6-7 posts? He had made at least one reads post.

And it isn't my responsibility to answer questions about people who aren't me.

Since I am on the poll, and am not the role listed, Imma presume I'm alive btw.

How did Falcon get yeeted?

@S~V~S

@sig


Why are you voting Michelle?

I kinda said why several times; her posts didn't ring true to me, she doesn't feel like she's being sincere. I feel she cobbled her reads list together without any real thought. Like she hadn't actually put any thought into it. And Michelle pays attention and puts thought into it when she's town.

I didn't buy it, I, like you said something similar iirc?, don't take it into account when people say "no meta reads". I kinda don't buy it now.

[S~V~S]

I don't suspect SVS at this point but there is a massive amount of lowkey disrespect for someone with a pretty damn good wolfgame.

What does this mean? It's a very twisty way to word something.

[S~V~S]

@S~V~S

@sig


Why are you voting Michelle?

Her lack of reads and voting for people even though she has no reads definitely seems to be a day 1 mafia unsure/having a hard time getting footing.

I don't trust ppl who have an easy time getting footing tbh.

It read to me like she was pretending to get footing, tbh.

What do you think of the mystery message saying you are Scotty are teammates?

[S~V~S]

Also, whoever said that "SVS is the one shot vig" thing doesn't know me very well. I'm a use it or lose it gal. If I had a kill, I would have killed Michelle last night tbh.

I didn't vote out of the gate today because we all make mistakes, I'm willing to start a new day. But last night when i came in after work and saw that, "I don't know what sig said, I asked SVS and she didn't answer" (paraphrase), I was like 105% sure she was bad lol.

So I'm at a family party for the night, but I'll pop in later and be aound most of tomorrow and Sunday.

[Jackofhearts2005]

End of N1,

Hello this is your host DrWilgy, under no amount of coercion, here's the results from the night:

No one has died.

Swag.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't suspect SVS at this point but there is a massive amount of lowkey disrespect for someone with a pretty damn good wolfgame.

What does this mean? It's a very twisty way to word something.

Means you aren't outside your wolfrange and I think ppl are clearing you too easy.

[Scotty]

Intriguing!!

So from no one dying, that leaves only 2 possibilities unless mafia are allowed to holster, which I doubt at this point (even though Robyn did that for the first couple nights when we were scum partners on wolfwalkers):
-mafia found the SK
-we have a jailer, and they were successful.


From the messages, that longer one implied we are in matrix 5, which would all but confirm it isn’t a jailer, but I of course have no reason to believe that post anyway

I’m currently running the assumption that mafia shot at the SK. Dunno if that helps or hurts us at this point

[Scotty]

I haven’t dissected end of day- I must admit that I thought day ended when I last posted and left for a show thinking that was that. My time zone is now corrected.

Falcon going wasn’t a terrible pick, I guess. I don’t think I would have gone against that as a choice in the moment. We had no reason to believe him to be the effing cop. So that sucks. I’ll look into people’s reasons later.

Still don’t like Roxy’s vanity vote at the time. I’m not inclined to think [VOTE: jack] aubergine is a bad one to start on today

[Jackofhearts2005]

Intriguing!!

So from no one dying, that leaves only 2 possibilities unless mafia are allowed to holster, which I doubt at this point (even though Robyn did that for the first couple nights when we were scum partners on wolfwalkers):
-mafia found the SK
-we have a jailer, and they were successful.


From the messages, that longer one implied we are in matrix 5, which would all but confirm it isn’t a jailer, but I of course have no reason to believe that post anyway

I’m currently running the assumption that mafia shot at the SK. Dunno if that helps or hurts us at this point

If we're in matrix 3, it's less likely that the wolves shot the sker but it's also the only scenario where the wolves could have shot the sker and it actually matters. If we're in matrix 5, they probably don't shoot the sker again but there's no town vig to take advantage of the sk losing their vest.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I haven’t dissected end of day- I must admit that I thought day ended when I last posted and left for a show thinking that was that. My time zone is now corrected.

Falcon going wasn’t a terrible pick, I guess. I don’t think I would have gone against that as a choice in the moment. We had no reason to believe him to be the effing cop. So that sucks. I’ll look into people’s reasons later.

Still don’t like Roxy’s vanity vote at the time. I’m not inclined to think [VOTE: jack] aubergine is a bad one to start on today

[Scotty]

Intriguing!!

So from no one dying, that leaves only 2 possibilities unless mafia are allowed to holster, which I doubt at this point (even though Robyn did that for the first couple nights when we were scum partners on wolfwalkers):
-mafia found the SK
-we have a jailer, and they were successful.


From the messages, that longer one implied we are in matrix 5, which would all but confirm it isn’t a jailer, but I of course have no reason to believe that post anyway

I’m currently running the assumption that mafia shot at the SK. Dunno if that helps or hurts us at this point

If we're in matrix 3, it's less likely that the wolves shot the sker but it's also the only scenario where the wolves could have shot the sker and it actually matters. If we're in matrix 5, they probably don't shoot the sker again but there's no town vig to take advantage of the sk losing their vest.

I’m also less inclined to believe we’re in matrix 3 at this time anyway with a potential vig that didn’t shoot.

But also I realize many people holster their vig shots for some reason. I just choose to believe they wouldn’t, because info

[Scotty]

I haven’t dissected end of day- I must admit that I thought day ended when I last posted and left for a show thinking that was that. My time zone is now corrected.

Falcon going wasn’t a terrible pick, I guess. I don’t think I would have gone against that as a choice in the moment. We had no reason to believe him to be the effing cop. So that sucks. I’ll look into people’s reasons later.

Still don’t like Roxy’s vanity vote at the time. I’m not inclined to think [VOTE: jack] aubergine is a bad one to start on today

Yeah, you got some splainin to do for sure

[Scotty]

Also only 7 people responded with their messages. Increased odds a PR didn’t act…or maybe mafia didn’t kill. So who the hell knows

[Long Con]

@S~V~S you dead, girl! No posty!

[Long Con]

Also, whoever said that "SVS is the one shot vig" thing doesn't know me very well.

[Long Con]

Now I have to re-read to see who has such keen mafia intuition.

[Lilypetal]

Reading the ssk role, I’m not sure how that would ever achieve parity without an insane amount of good and bad luck but w/e not my problem.

this is kinda towny

[Lilypetal]

Jack’s entrance to the thread is deadass butt

eh

[Lilypetal]

Scot is definitely playing the town leader here which is not something Im used to from him but probably been at least half a decade since our last game together.

I don't automatically trust town leaders but I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt for a while, since it's a hard position for mafia to be in without slipping. That said with this game's activity level, the bar to clear to be a town leader is low.

So scot = lean town. Everyone else = meh.

this is probably towny

[Lilypetal]

I was right, easy catch up.

I need to see more from Michelle. I need to get a feel for her, same for Roxy. Epi and TSP only have one post each, but I can get a fairly quick (although not necessarily right) sort on them fairly quickly. I need to see content from Rox and Michelle.

Jack and LC mainly seem to be lolcatting. I have grossly misread both of them in the recent past so want to get a better idea to develop.

Splints has been a no show. Falcon has been content light, but I also know his tourney game started.

Scotty is doing his yuk yuk Scotty thing, but he's also topical. Bad Scotty hides behind the yuk yuk stuff, this Scotty doesn't seem to be doing that.

I tend to equate snappy Porscha with townie Porscha and sweetie Porscha with Bad Porscha, she fooled the shit out of me in Hot Dog Fingers, with all of her niceness. The Porscha here feels a bit snappy to me, but pulled back a bit. So she's a question mark.

If I had to vote right not, not sure what I'd do, I'm finding more town or low content question marks. Hopefully we get some more posting going on.

This is v towny imo

It just seems like level headed gut reads and I vibe with em

[Lilypetal]

I dunno, she seems pretty snappy, mainly at you

And a wolf team is only as creative as it's members are involved. I've seen teams where the members literally only show up in chat to discuss kills. No strategizing, no brainstorming. Not every team is the Arbiters. So even if some wolves are a hive mind, it's still a good idea not to point out their tools for them.

The best wolf teams are ones that spend a ton of time chatting. So the best wolf teams are teams with Mac in them.

reaL!!!!!

[Lilypetal]

i get the vibe there's a wolf in roxy/michelle

I find Jack and Scotty and SvS towny

[TonyStarkPrime]

Also, whoever said that "SVS is the one shot vig" thing doesn't know me very well. I'm a use it or lose it gal. If I had a kill, I would have killed Michelle last night tbh.

I didn't vote out of the gate today because we all make mistakes, I'm willing to start a new day. But last night when i came in after work and saw that, "I don't know what sig said, I asked SVS and she didn't answer" (paraphrase), I was like 105% sure she was bad lol.

So I'm at a family party for the night, but I'll pop in later and be aound most of tomorrow and Sunday.

Well they didn’t write it after the night

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wolfy

[Long Con]

...

[Long Con]

End of N1,

Hello this is your host DrWilgy, under no amount of coercion, here's the results from the night:

S~v~S has been killed, they were town 1 shot Vig.

It is now D2, you have 48 hours and 80 more posts.

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: roxy] aubergine

[Lilypetal]

TOWN:

scotty - vibez

svs - mindmeldy vibes -

porscha - hot

wolfy:

michelle - bad vibes and eod
roxy - eod felt extremely wolfy