Endtroducing... Mafia [CLASSIC GAME]

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Endtroducing... Mafia [CLASSIC GAME]

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Endtroducing... Mafia

Based on the 1996 Album by DJ Shadow
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That's quite the pun you got there, guy.
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S~V~S wrote:That's quite the pun you got there, guy.
All credit goes to DJ Shadow. :srsnod:
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*starts searching through his 3,600 folders of music for albums that have 13 tracks*

See you in December.
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Ricochet wrote:*starts searching through his 3,600 folders of music for albums that have 13 tracks*

See you in December.
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:*starts searching through his 3,600 folders of music for albums that have 13 tracks*

See you in December.
Nevermind
Me having Nirvana in my music collection.

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You don't have to have it in your music collection to make a game out of it. :P
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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I need to care about the theme to create a game around it. :noble:
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You could write a story about 13 marmots.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
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I only know one.
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If there are two roles (powers) on the civilian side, does something like a Godfather need to be implemented on the mafia side, for balance? MM's second setup, in Trees, doesn't have this, for instance.
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Ricochet wrote:If there are two roles (powers) on the civilian side, does something like a Godfather need to be implemented on the mafia side, for balance? MM's second setup, in Trees, doesn't have this, for instance.
I'm not experienced enough with these setups to answer this with full confidence, but given that the setup of 1 cop, 9 VTs, and 3 VM is about as balanced as it comes, adding in a civilian doctor would require some sort of mafia balance, in my opinion.

I wanted to introduce the godfather into a game, so it seemed like a worthy counterpart.
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Ricochet wrote:If there are two roles (powers) on the civilian side, does something like a Godfather need to be implemented on the mafia side, for balance? MM's second setup, in Trees, doesn't have this, for instance.
This is true, but there are some other ideas that impact the game.

Nobody knows that there are is a doctor or a cop except for the real doctor and cop (or if someone doesn't die overnight). So both mafia and civilians can use this uncertainty to play the game differently. I'm not going delve too much into strategy though, because that is the players' prerogative. :P
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I think that the civ flip of the don to the role checker makes him a somewhat unreliable cop. Not really an insane cop, but it makes any result questionable. That adds some balance.
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S~V~S wrote:I think that the civ flip of the don to the role checker makes him a somewhat unreliable cop. Not really an insane cop, but it makes any result questionable. That adds some balance.
Yeah, exactly. Nearly all (or even all, if the GF is never checked) of the cop's checks will actually be correct, but he/she will always wonder whether one of the vanilla civilian checks is actually the GF.
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One of the greatest albums of all time.
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