Phenon Mafia: ENDGAME - Snuffed

#1751

Are INH and/or sloonei usually ballsy enough to just come out in thread and bait/encourage everyone into a lynch that >half the town doesn't feel, while being best buddies?

I'm really lost as to whether they are suretown or surescum

Aaaaaand voting Sloonei WTH marmot

#1752

What is a linki

#1753

nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
nutella wrote:INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.

I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
I never said I'd vote for INH and marmot. I ISO'd both of them because it was suggested that I do and I came out reading them both as town.

I've seen no reason not to view marmot as town. He's provided his thoughts and been inquisitive at points in the game. Not all the time, but I wouldn't expect him to be. What reasons do you have to read him as bad?
1) His presence in the thread has increasingly diverged from his normal style, IMO. You might disagree but that's a general feeling I've had. Call this the gut portion of my reasoning.
2) My suspicion of him has a lot to do with INH and a couple other connections.
3) One little thing that pinged me was that jokey reference to the fakeslip after the night post, the "still 5 scum" thing. Someone, I forget who, teased him with "well how do you know Wilgy wasn't scum?" and I honestly think that's a fair catch. This is a rather weak point because it was just a joke so may not mean anything, but tbh I think it increases his likelihood of being scum because he automatically knew/assumed Wilgy wasn't.
4) I'm sure there was something else but it escapes me in the current frazzlement of the thread.

Plus, as I also said in that post where I decided to vote for him, I think that he will be a very productive flip in terms of determining other alignments; if he flips town I will feel kind of bad about it but we'll also still learn quite a bit. As INH has retorted to me, lynching Dys would have the same benefits, but (a) I suspect Marmot much more, and (b) would feel less bad if he flipped civ than if we lynched a civ Dys because Dys has been participating way way more than Marmot.

@ the highlighted portion, that was me. And that exchange is the closest I've come to suspecting him, admittedly. I thought it was a bit awkward that he thought I didn't know what he was referring to when I was expanding on what he had said, but I wasn't sure that made him bad.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a scum marmot.

#1754

Who's it gonna be?

VOTALS

Eloh (3): Scotty, JJJ, Eloh
Scotty(4): Silver Lantern, speedchuck, Sloonei
JoH
Dyslexicon (2): INH, quin,
MetalMarsh89 (3): nutella, Dyslexicon, Long Con
INH (1): Golden
Sloonei (1): MM

With 18 Alive, it takes 10 to Lynch and 5 to Soft Lynch. There is currently 10 minutes left in the day

CURRENTLY, NO ONE WILL BE LYNCHED!!!!

#1755

speedchuck wrote:What is a linki

Responding to the posts that happened while you were posting (they show up when you press the post button, but your post doesn't go through), rendered posthaste.

#1756

speedchuck wrote:Are INH and/or sloonei usually ballsy enough to just come out in thread and bait/encourage everyone into a lynch that >half the town doesn't feel, while being best buddies?

I'm really lost as to whether they are suretown or surescum

Aaaaaand voting Sloonei WTH marmot

I'm ballsy/stupid enough to do so, but Sloonei usually isn't.

#1757

only 5 minutes left, right?

#1758

sprityo wrote:Who's it gonna be?
With 18 Alive, it takes 10 to Lynch and 5 to Soft Lynch. There is currently 20 minutes left in the day
CURRENTLY, NO ONE WILL BE LYNCHED!!!!

Ten minutes.

Thanks for the heads up marmot. I agreee. Hard to get a post out without typing super quick with typos

#1759

GTH reads after everything that's happened today, with a few exclusions.

Civ:
INH
Marmot
Long Con
Silver
Golden
speedchuck
Scotty

Bad:
3J
JOH
Sloonei
nutella
Dizzy
Fredwood

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1760

Quin wrote:@INH I didn't like it either. Suggesting a INH or marmot lynch must happen before a Dys/3J lynch doesn't sit well with me, because that surely works the other way around.

It doesn't for me because I suspect Marmot/INH significantly more. And as I also said, I would feel less bad about mislynching a civ marmot than a civ Dys because Dys has been participating a lot and marmot hasn't.

Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.

I am disappointed in Sloonei because he's been a pretty strong town read for me, I just disagree with a lot of his opinions today. Same goes for you but you're lower on my town list atm.

insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.
Nutella is my biggest scumread other than Dys right now.

Can you give some reasons why?

Guys, I know I'm being really crazy right now but that's because of the stress of this EOD and I'm kind of exaggerating my views in the heat of the moment. I might scale back on how I feel about INH/Marmot after some time to reflect, but I don't have any of that right now so instead I'm saying borderline extreme things because I'm worried about this lynch.

#1761

insertnamehere wrote:
speedchuck wrote: I'm ballsy/stupid enough to do so, but Sloonei usually isn't.

My bad. Meant metalmarsh

#1762

insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.
Nutella is my biggest scumread other than Dys right now.

For all the flack I've been giving you, I respect your taking that position.

#1763

Sloonei wrote:
nutella wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
nutella wrote:INH and Quin are making me sad. Dys is the player I trust the most currently (or on about equal footing with Silver and Golden). I believe SO strongly that Dys is civ, I'd say even more so given the recent discussion -- especially their replies to Quin. I was thinking "amen" to everything Dys said in response to Quin's utterly ridiculous and nuance-lacking accusation that they haven't provided reads/reactions to the fakeslip when they so clearly have, and has generally acted very town.

I'm also disappointed in you, Sloonei. I'm glad you backed off of Scotty, since he's been hinting all game and that's part of why I believe he's probably town. But I thought you had said a couple pages back that you'd also be willing to vote for INH or Marmot, and now you don't seem to be considering that at all. I wish you would consider switching to Marmot, especially so close to the deadline when we're not even hitting the soft lynch threshold and he's our best shot.

lots of linki. Sloon can you give reasons you think MM is town?
I never said I'd vote for INH and marmot. I ISO'd both of them because it was suggested that I do and I came out reading them both as town.

I've seen no reason not to view marmot as town. He's provided his thoughts and been inquisitive at points in the game. Not all the time, but I wouldn't expect him to be. What reasons do you have to read him as bad?
1) His presence in the thread has increasingly diverged from his normal style, IMO. You might disagree but that's a general feeling I've had. Call this the gut portion of my reasoning.
2) My suspicion of him has a lot to do with INH and a couple other connections.
3) One little thing that pinged me was that jokey reference to the fakeslip after the night post, the "still 5 scum" thing. Someone, I forget who, teased him with "well how do you know Wilgy wasn't scum?" and I honestly think that's a fair catch. This is a rather weak point because it was just a joke so may not mean anything, but tbh I think it increases his likelihood of being scum because he automatically knew/assumed Wilgy wasn't.
4) I'm sure there was something else but it escapes me in the current frazzlement of the thread.

Plus, as I also said in that post where I decided to vote for him, I think that he will be a very productive flip in terms of determining other alignments; if he flips town I will feel kind of bad about it but we'll also still learn quite a bit. As INH has retorted to me, lynching Dys would have the same benefits, but (a) I suspect Marmot much more, and (b) would feel less bad if he flipped civ than if we lynched a civ Dys because Dys has been participating way way more than Marmot.
@ the highlighted portion, that was me. And that exchange is the closest I've come to suspecting him, admittedly. I thought it was a bit awkward that he thought I didn't know what he was referring to when I was expanding on what he had said, but I wasn't sure that made him bad.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've ever actually seen a scum marmot.

@nutella's highlighted portion.

If you think I slipped up in that post, what makes you think Dizzy didn't slip? My post was a comedic reference to his.

#1764

I am starting to doubt my marmot read.

#1765

speedchuck wrote:
sprityo wrote:Who's it gonna be?
With 18 Alive, it takes 10 to Lynch and 5 to Soft Lynch. There is currently 20 minutes left in the day
CURRENTLY, NO ONE WILL BE LYNCHED!!!!
Ten minutes.

Thanks for the heads up marmot. I agreee. Hard to get a post out without typing super quick with typos

i usually correct any mistypes almost immediately, my apologies in advance

#1766

nutella wrote:
Quin wrote:@INH I didn't like it either. Suggesting a INH or marmot lynch must happen before a Dys/3J lynch doesn't sit well with me, because that surely works the other way around.
It doesn't for me because I suspect Marmot/INH significantly more. And as I also said, I would feel less bad about mislynching a civ marmot than a civ Dys because Dys has been participating a lot and marmot hasn't.

Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.
I am disappointed in Sloonei because he's been a pretty strong town read for me, I just disagree with a lot of his opinions today. Same goes for you but you're lower on my town list atm.

insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.
Nutella is my biggest scumread other than Dys right now.
Can you give some reasons why?

Guys, I know I'm being really crazy right now but that's because of the stress of this EOD and I'm kind of exaggerating my views in the heat of the moment. I might scale back on how I feel about INH/Marmot after some time to reflect, but I don't have any of that right now so instead I'm saying borderline extreme things because I'm worried about this lynch.

This is understandable, but I think that we can learn a lot about what people say and do while under stress.

#1767

Silver Lantern wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Quin wrote:nutella expressed that INH and I were making her 'sad' and that she was 'disappointed' in Sloonei. Neither of those are stances on our alignments. Something to take with us to Day 3.
Nutella is my biggest scumread other than Dys right now.
For all the flack I've been giving you, I respect your taking that position.

Ditto.

Might need to do an nutella ISO tomorrow, I may be guilty of giving them fair pass.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #1768

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nutella, how do you quantify participation?

I don't really quantify it tbh, it's a really subjective assessment of my perception of someone's presence in the thread. Specifically I have seen Dys make much more substantial contributions than you for much of the game.

#1769

Sloonei wrote:I am starting to doubt my marmot read.

This would be more useful if you had a read on me.

#1770

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If you think I slipped up in that post, what makes you think Dizzy didn't slip? My post was a comedic reference to his.

It's not that I think you slipped. It's that when I responded with a follow-up comment, you acted as if I did not understand what you were talking about. I was confused because I thought it was clear exactly what I was doing. You also never answered my question, but it was only a half-hearted jab so I didn't really care. I just thought it was strange that you misinterpreted my post the way you did. Not necessarily suspicious.

#1771

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I am starting to doubt my marmot read.
This would be more useful if you had a read on me.

You've been a solid town read for about 5 hours now.

#1772

I hate going no lynch.

#1773

To be fair, MM made one contribution to the thread:

Spoiler: show

5 MINUTES FOLKS, Get out and vote!

Make Mafia Great Again!

#1774

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:vote Scotty

I'd rather lynch Speed but only Dizzy agrees with me on him.

Not convinced by INH on Dizzy at all. Can't read Marmot for crap. Can't read Elih cause she's barely playing but I could see her w/w with Marmot if one of them flips.

So many linkis. If someone has a strong argument, point me to it fast.

What about me on Dizzy?

#1775

NEED VOTALS

#1776

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

I hate going no lynch.

Absolutely inexcusable.

#1777

Sorry Sloonei, that question was directed towards nutella. I didn't catch that portion of her post until you highlighted it.

Linki: I haven't been around the last 5 hours, so I missed that.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dizzy

I don't actually want to lynch Sloonei.

#1778

unvote scotty

vote metalmarsh

#ballstothewall

#1779

Nobody is going to be lynched at this rate.

#1780

Dyslexicon, Elohcin, Epignosis, insertnamehere, Jackofhearts2005, juliets, Metalmarsh89, nutella, Quin, Silver Lantern, Sloonei, Soneji, speedchuck, sprityo and 1 guest

Those are the people on ATM and NOT voting for Scotty or Dys for that matter.

#1781

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry Sloonei, that question was directed towards nutella. I didn't catch that portion of her post until you highlighted it.

Linki: I haven't been around the last 5 hours, so I missed that.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dizzy

I don't actually want to lynch Sloonei.

YEAH WELL... uh

#1782

Silver Lantern wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

I hate going no lynch.

Absolutely inexcusable.

And worse when you can't talk at night.

I'm not saying the mod is wrong but for me, open nights, no hammers and whoever gets the most votes swings is ideal.

#1783

Silver Lantern wrote:Dyslexicon, Elohcin, Epignosis, insertnamehere, Jackofhearts2005, juliets, Metalmarsh89, nutella, Quin, Silver Lantern, Sloonei, Soneji, speedchuck, sprityo and 1 guest

Those are the people on ATM and NOT voting for Scotty or Dys for that matter.

I am voting for Dys.

#1784

Dammit

Vote mM

#1785

Sloonei wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry Sloonei, that question was directed towards nutella. I didn't catch that portion of her post until you highlighted it.

Linki: I haven't been around the last 5 hours, so I missed that.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dizzy

I don't actually want to lynch Sloonei.
YEAH WELL... uh

dude wtf

#1786

I did vote for Dys (just now).

#1787

insertnamehere wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry Sloonei, that question was directed towards nutella. I didn't catch that portion of her post until you highlighted it.

Linki: I haven't been around the last 5 hours, so I missed that.

Unvote

Vote Lynch Dizzy

I don't actually want to lynch Sloonei.
YEAH WELL... uh
dude wtf

Call it a gut and trust in nutella.

#1788

I apologize for my sloppy play today. I said it somewhere in the last page or so but it probably got lost in the shuffle, but this is Day 1 to me, only instead of starting from scratch I started buried under a mile and a half of posts. I've hardly had time to process everything that I've read so far.
I hope my vote ended up in the right place.

#1789

Thread is locked.

#1790

Cows on Marijuana

No wait, The Steaks are High

VOTALS

MetalMarsh89 (5): nutella, Dyslexicon, Long Con, Sloonei, Speedchuck
Eloh (3): Scotty, JJJ,Eloh
Scotty(2): Silver Lantern, JoH
Dyslexicon (3): INH, quin,MM
INH (1): Golden

MetalMarsh89 has been Lynched

#1791

Night 2 - Careless Whispers

The Day had felt as if it had gone by in a blur. The Passengers had just left a northern town near the US/Canadian border on there way South East to who knows where? Well obviously whoever had the map, but that was besides that point.

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Eugene Gamma is squatting down over a mess of glass and cheap wine, again. This was the third glass he had shattered so far, the second today. “I’m going to become an alcoholic, i swear,” he tells himself with a sigh. He checks his own copy of the map of stops, they were heading east, about halfway across continental United States so far. “One step closer to home at least.”

Gamma returns to cleaning the carpet, but unbeknownst to him, there was shenanigans afoot in the discussion room…

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The Passengers were at a standstill on who they were going to judge for that day. After the gruesome death that morning, they were hesitant on submitting someone else to death in fear that they might bring the wrath of their hidden enemies. As the sun began to set, MetalMarsh89 made a drastic move, deciding to take the matters into his own hands, he pulls out a dagger and grabs a nearby passenger, holding the blade next to their throat and wrenching their arm with his other.

“You! You’re one of them arent you!?”
“Yes yes yes. And I deeply apologize folks, but this business is taking simply too much time.” MM says. “This man here, is who we have come for, so I’ll be escorting him out of here personally, I dont care what the plan is. This place is a madhouse!”

Marmot walks backwards out the door towards the back, holding his hostage. Everyone else watched in grim silence. But his hostage had other plans as they pushed off with their feet, throwing MM against the wall and freeing himself. The sudden force had taken the villain off-guard. MM turned to keep running and escape with his life, but was met with a 9mm muzzle to the face.

Eugene Gamma had seen the turn of events and was having none of it.

“Your contract has expired,” he says before squeezing the trigger and putting an end to MM’s life.

MM was Robert Crawford, HIVE Hypnotist:

Spoiler: show

With the HIVE operative gone, everyone relaxes, but only so much as to remind themselves that there was more around them. Eugene Gamma wipes more blood off of his suit and pistol with a napkin he had in his pocket. “Let that be a lesson to you all,” he says as he returns to his room.

Night ends 2/18/2017 or in approx. 24 hours

Tonight's Item is the Corrupted Jury. Make sure to send in your Night Actions AND Vote who gets the item!!!

#1792

Dfaraday has asked for a replacement

Juliets has replaced DFaraday

#1793

Day 3 - Karma

“And on the third day, Eugene said that he didn’t give a flying FUCK!” spat Eugene Gamma from his lounge chair. He was experiencing the effects of last night’s binge drinking episode, that left him with little liquor left to consume. He was almost surprised he hadnt died of blood poisoning yet. Eugene looked up from his chair to stare at the screens in his room. He couldn’t make out a lot in his current state, but it appears, some men had boarded his train upon the arrival into Vanguard.

“Stupid….. *belch* prick cops….” he muttered before passing out.

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The local “police” force had boarded the train soon after it had arrived. Gamma had sent forewarning to Sheriff D., the Head of the force, that he had a string of murders he was dealing with on the train and that all he needed was that the train be kept under tight security while he ‘slept in.’ The police boarded the train, and one of them immediately pointed to Silver Lantern, who they quickly rushed at and subdued, bring him outside. Silver Lantern kicked and protested, saying that what was happening was madness. The passengers watched as the officers brought him before a decorated official, or so he appeared. The man looked Silver Lantern up and down before punching him right in the face. He then asked to see one of the officer’s shotguns, to which it was nervously handed to him. The individual pumped all six rounds into Silver Lantern’s chest before throwing the shotgun to the side and walking back towards a group of armored vehicles. The Passengers were stunned at how quickly the situation escalated and could only stare at the corpse as the train left the station. Eugene Gamma makes his special return as he informs everyone of who Silver Lantern was.

Silver Lantern was Springer "Smoke" Wrighton, The Mercenary:

Spoiler: show

Seeing the reason, or at least, coming to the conclusion of a possible reason why Silver Lantern was killed. The Passengers put it behind them and continue with the important events of the day.

Day ends in approx 48 hours, or 2/20/2017 at 10 PM EST

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch and 5 to soft lynch

#1794

Booo taking the easy way out Mafia.

I actually thought Silver was bad.

Also I was blocked last night so thanks for that.

What else is new

#1795

Oh and welcome juliets! Give me all your reads now!

#1796

Them MM voters lookin real good right now by the by

Well done on catching him y'all

#1797

Scotty wrote:Booo taking the easy way out Mafia.

I actually thought Silver was bad.

Also I was blocked last night so thanks for that.

What else is new

On the one hand, a scum roleblocker could easily decide to block Scotty to put him on the hot seat going into today.

On the other hand, this is a very convenient claim.

#1798

Sorry about spastic posting, I'm in the middle of a show

Thanks for not lynching me last night while I was out you assholes.

I think Elo looks genuine in her frustration and feel better about her.

I think the peeps on the Dys train look worse

#1799

Scotty wrote:Them MM voters lookin real good right now by the by

Well done on catching him y'all

Them non-MM voters, on the other hand... Let's talk about Quin and insertnamehere.

#1800

Nice lynch gang. I'm still too busy to do anything. Long Con did you have a nice night?

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