I'm happy to have you be one of my Btsc people.Golden wrote:Hey, LoRab, how about you go for me tonight instead of speedchuck. I'll go for speedchuck tonight as well, so I could relay back and forth.
Anyone want to be my second?
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I'm happy to have you be one of my Btsc people.Golden wrote:Hey, LoRab, how about you go for me tonight instead of speedchuck. I'll go for speedchuck tonight as well, so I could relay back and forth.
LoRab wrote:Jeff, I choose a black rock.
I'm happy to have you be one of my Btsc people.Golden wrote:Hey, LoRab, how about you go for me tonight instead of speedchuck. I'll go for speedchuck tonight as well, so I could relay back and forth.
Anyone want to be my second?
Oh, sorry. I had said I wanted with you earlier and misread your post when you said you were choosing and didn't see my name. It's been a long day.DharmaHelper wrote:LoRab wrote:Jeff, I choose a black rock.
I'm happy to have you be one of my Btsc people.Golden wrote:Hey, LoRab, how about you go for me tonight instead of speedchuck. I'll go for speedchuck tonight as well, so I could relay back and forth.
Anyone want to be my second?
Sometimes, it's the reverse.LoRab wrote: It's the one where we have a carnival, wear costumes, get drunk, and eat cookies.
I wasn't thinking of temp-BTSC. And sorry if I never showed up!! :oGolden wrote:I had btsc with you in World Reborn, but you were really busy and I don't think you ever showed up (or only very briefly).
Otherwise, I don't remember it either. Remarkable after all these years.
Did we? You know you've been playing too long when you can't even remember such things. It's funny--I remember my earliest games and my most recent games...it's all the middle games that are a jumbled mess in my brain.DharmaHelper wrote:We've had BTSC once or twice also, LoRab. Though I'm not sure about recently and I dunno if ever on Syndicate.
It says "no immunity" on the post IIRCGolden wrote:Are we sure we have to vote someone out tonight? Maybe it's reward AND immunity?
I see now we needed one or more points for the coin flip to work. Oh well.DharmaHelper wrote:Coin flip be damned, I guess?
Wow. Well I guess we made the right choice with black rocks. Upon further reading, it was only if we tied in points that there would be a coin flip. Technically, neither of us scored a point so no one got the reward. He did say that, I just didn't read it carefully. At least they didn't get anything either and they didn't fool us. Even one yellow rock and we would have lost the challenge and still come out empty handed. So good job everyone for making the right decision!DharmaHelper wrote:Coin flip be damned, I guess?
I think transparency has served us well so far. No need to dick around with a winning formula, am I right?Golden wrote:I don't really want to vote for anyone either. Question, though, what do we think is better for tribe unity? Vote discussion, or completely secret ballot?
I agree. Also, we can strategize.DharmaHelper wrote:I think transparency has served us well so far. No need to dick around with a winning formula, am I right?Golden wrote:I don't really want to vote for anyone either. Question, though, what do we think is better for tribe unity? Vote discussion, or completely secret ballot?
And your interpretation of my day action actually suggests that I have more of a spine than you do. If I had really wanted an excuse to choose that option, I would've changed my option as soon as you did, when I no longer had your cover. Instead, I stuck with it. And I'll tell you why: after the tribe merge, I want to keep this tribe as an alliance, and I want to be the most effective contributor to that alliance as I can. If our tribe finds immunity idols now, our future alliance will have one more advantage over the shattered remnants of the other tribe. Now, why did you initially choose the "idol hunt" option, only to change it without comment after I called you out yet again?DharmaHelper wrote:I don't mean to harp on this but the puzzle thing is 100% not my fault I'll tell you all about it after the relay. I'm legitimately a little amped up :P
There are no friends on the other tribe. And his self-deprecating talk of being unlucky isn't a good vibe to have around the camp in any case.DrWilgy wrote:What? SVS is my friend. Why would she ever trust me again if I give her a Black Rock?DharmaHelper wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Hmmm... I don't wanna betray SVS, but I'll do it for the tribe.
I'm submitting my rock change now.
I think we should definitely discuss.Golden wrote:I don't really want to vote for anyone either. Question, though, what do we think is better for tribe unity? Vote discussion, or completely secret ballot?
I did say I could forgive his absence. I'm more concerned with his picking a fight after coming back, and taking the Day 2 poll as an opportunity to hunt for protection rather than prove his worth by providing for the tribe.Elohcin wrote:I think we should definitely discuss.Golden wrote:I don't really want to vote for anyone either. Question, though, what do we think is better for tribe unity? Vote discussion, or completely secret ballot?
DH, I think your analysis is good. However I think you were a little harsh on Boomslag, were you not? I mean, he had his parents in town.
And what was he talking about when he questions you about the puzzle?
And I think you're understating it. The other tribe wouldn't just have more food—they'd also have fishing gear, which is an advantage they could press for the rest of the game. Additionally, more food for free isn't just more food. It's less time hunting and gathering to stay functional, which means they can spend more time building solid shelter, purifying water, and, yes, looking for idols. This was not challenge we could've afforded to lose.LoRab wrote:If we had lost the last challenge, we'd actually have exactly the same thing that we have now. The other tribe would just have more food, which is unclear how much of an advantage that is. I think you're overstating what risk a loss would have been.
And, if you were hunting for the sake of the tribe, you'll tell us then if you found the idol?
In terms of my first challenge performance—which, let me remind you, was delayed for out-of-thread reasons—I took the option that required more energy than Wilgy's option. In strictly quantitative terms, that's a greater commitment to the tribe.DharmaHelper wrote:Seems like Fire/food are our priorities today. I'll tend the fire since my last fishing trip didn't go so well.
Because Golden and Speedchuck earned the right to take those walks by way of challenge one.Boomslang wrote:I have to go to work and will be back in the late afternoon. But one last point, DH: if this is really about choosing Day 2 actions, why haven't you said a word about the actions of Speedchuck or Golden? Both of them took walks outside of camp as well. In fact you even said this about Speedchuck: "I admire your ability to do the work that's necessary to keep this tribe on the winning side of things."
Speedchuck did literally the same thing I did in challenge one: the willpower option on leg four. You're applying your criteria inconsistently.DharmaHelper wrote:Because Golden and Speedchuck earned the right to take those walks by way of challenge one.Boomslang wrote:I have to go to work and will be back in the late afternoon. But one last point, DH: if this is really about choosing Day 2 actions, why haven't you said a word about the actions of Speedchuck or Golden? Both of them took walks outside of camp as well. In fact you even said this about Speedchuck: "I admire your ability to do the work that's necessary to keep this tribe on the winning side of things."
DharmaHelper wrote:Boomslang wrote:Speaking of stepping up, how's about you explain what happened with the puzzle, like you said you were going to do several pages ago?DharmaHelper wrote:Hope you're ready to step up next challenge man.Boomslang wrote:Alright, excellent job all around! I may not have understood what was going on, but I do understand winning, and I do know how important momentum is to Survivor. Now that we have the advantage, we should press it—we'll have the opportunity to rest a player every day, so we should use the more energy-intensive options in future challenges.
Speaking of energy, voting sustenance in the poll. That's what you need to achieve anything else in life.
I'd be glad to. I was thinking we might go to tribal so I was saving it for that event, but Now that we're not, and you asked so politely:
I asked a question to get clarification on the parameters of the puzzle that was answered imprecisely, so I was working to solve a puzzle that I had incomplete information on, and as a result I got caught up in the wrong path.
Fortunately I had the good sense to pull back.
You're not understanding my criteria. Speedchuck was here and following the input of the tribe. You weren't here and picked that option essentially by default.Boomslang wrote:Speedchuck did literally the same thing I did in challenge one: the willpower option on leg four. You're applying your criteria inconsistently.DharmaHelper wrote:Because Golden and Speedchuck earned the right to take those walks by way of challenge one.Boomslang wrote:I have to go to work and will be back in the late afternoon. But one last point, DH: if this is really about choosing Day 2 actions, why haven't you said a word about the actions of Speedchuck or Golden? Both of them took walks outside of camp as well. In fact you even said this about Speedchuck: "I admire your ability to do the work that's necessary to keep this tribe on the winning side of things."
I'm in a tough spot as you know I have BTSC with Mr. Boom. I talked to him this morning briefly even before reading the thread as I opened my PMs first.DharmaHelper wrote:@Eloh -
He's talking about this exchange:
DharmaHelper wrote:Boomslang wrote:Speaking of stepping up, how's about you explain what happened with the puzzle, like you said you were going to do several pages ago?DharmaHelper wrote:Hope you're ready to step up next challenge man.Boomslang wrote:Alright, excellent job all around! I may not have understood what was going on, but I do understand winning, and I do know how important momentum is to Survivor. Now that we have the advantage, we should press it—we'll have the opportunity to rest a player every day, so we should use the more energy-intensive options in future challenges.
Speaking of energy, voting sustenance in the poll. That's what you need to achieve anything else in life.
I'd be glad to. I was thinking we might go to tribal so I was saving it for that event, but Now that we're not, and you asked so politely:
I asked a question to get clarification on the parameters of the puzzle that was answered imprecisely, so I was working to solve a puzzle that I had incomplete information on, and as a result I got caught up in the wrong path.
Fortunately I had the good sense to pull back.
Where's your mind at for this vote?
Took walks outside of camp. Does this means these three may have gained info about the other tribe? I didn't even catch that til now. Golden, Chuck, Slang? Did you? If so...what was it?Boomslang wrote:I have to go to work and will be back in the late afternoon. But one last point, DH: if this is really about choosing Day 2 actions, why haven't you said a word about the actions of Speedchuck or Golden? Both of them took walks outside of camp as well. In fact you even said this about Speedchuck: "I admire your ability to do the work that's necessary to keep this tribe on the winning side of things."
I was hoping to see what these options provided for us, but all I found was a very shiny shell.Elohcin wrote: Took walks outside of camp. Does this means these three may have gained info about the other tribe? I didn't even catch that til now. Golden, Chuck, Slang? Did you? If so...what was it?
Have you any thoughts to add to our discussion about the vote?speedchuck wrote:I was hoping to see what these options provided for us, but all I found was a very shiny shell.Elohcin wrote: Took walks outside of camp. Does this means these three may have gained info about the other tribe? I didn't even catch that til now. Golden, Chuck, Slang? Did you? If so...what was it?
Perhaps someone with luck built into their character would do better. I am also curious to see Golden's result, as well as Boomslang's.
I have a natural instinct against voting off newbies early. And it's only his second game (and I didn't play in his first), so I still see him as new. I'm not comfortable with voting for chuck. or speed. Can't decide his nickname yet.Elohcin wrote: I think speed chuck would be a second contender. I see Slang's points on him. However, I don;t think Golden deserves to go whatsoever. He has been a very helpful tribe member.
Now that's interesting. And disturbing.speedchuck wrote:Boomslang doesn't seem like a bad option, but I actually do prefer DrWilgy, if only because I agreed to BTSC with them and they failed me, having me waste yet another chat that could have been valuable.
I'm okay with voting out either one.
I would. I don't think he's been participating as much as others. And the fact that he blew off BTSC is bad. Even if he were silenced, he should be able to be in BTSC when silenced in the thread.DharmaHelper wrote:What about Wilgy, Eloh? Boom seems to think that's the smarter play. Would you swing a vote in his direction if push came to shove?
I was in Phenon till the end, so I have quite a few posts to my name. This is my second game. Jury's out on whether that's 'new'.Elohcin wrote:I would. I don't think he's been participating as much as others. And the fact that he blew off BTSC is bad. Even if he were silenced, he should be able to be in BTSC when silenced in the thread.DharmaHelper wrote:What about Wilgy, Eloh? Boom seems to think that's the smarter play. Would you swing a vote in his direction if push came to shove?
Also, I didn't know chuck was new.
I went to a felled palm tree. I thought I might get coconuts, but it appears from the host post that it didn't work. I didn't get any kind of information from it.Elohcin wrote:Took walks outside of camp. Does this means these three may have gained info about the other tribe? I didn't even catch that til now. Golden, Chuck, Slang? Did you? If so...what was it?
Maybe you should examine it? There could be an idol or idol clue hidden in it?speedchuck wrote:I was hoping to see what these options provided for us, but all I found was a very shiny shell.