Pirate Mafia [END GAME]

[Kylemii]

Please? Love you.

[colonialbob]

Yeah I did. Just saw we only have like 15 minutes.

[speedchuck]

Do show us why tho Cbob.

20 minutes left

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Note: NewTraditionalist's vote in the tally will not be counted. colonialbob's will be counted.

[colonialbob]

Alright well it's less strong than I first thought when catching up initially, but go back and look at MP starting here:

Spoiler: show

Voting No Lynch, because I only like to see people walk the plank. Lynching is is distasteful.

Linki: Also G-Man is scary.

Voting NO LYNCH at this time puts the townies into a strategic disadvantage. Explain, pirate LC.

I'd wager he is doing it just to gather reactions or something.

Knowing LC, this was my guess as well, but I am/was hoping to see what he would say in response nonetheless. Speculating on other players’ intentions is good and all, but we should as well engage each other whenever possible.

He questions basically everybody else who's posted in the thread, but not really DDL. Similarly, DDL pushes on other people, but just asks MP about scumreads. Just feels to me like mafiosos dancing around each other without really interacting.

(Also the vote stuff seems to point to him, thanks kyle)

Also of note (not specifically in regards to DDL):

*snip*
My town reads are Kyle, Wilgy, and sig. I am tentatively leaning town on dunya and speedchuck but can’t sort either of them yet. Everyone else is a ?.
*snip*

My guess is he has one teammate in his reads here and one not. Leaning speedchuck for that teammate initially but the no lynch vote today is good. Also I've still got like half the thread to read, including the MP lynch, so take my reads are subject to change.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

SQUAAAWWWK walk the plank walk the plank

Or don't.

Nobody was lynched.

Night 4 begins and will last 24 hours. Get your actions in to both hosts.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Day 4 poll:

Spoiler: show

[Kylemii]

Thank you for not killing me after all, I hope the extra time is beneficial.

Did SD say when birdswithteeth would be done visiting?

[colonialbob]

Hmmm EoD 1 is either hella distancing or my DDL theory isn't great. Continuing to read.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

(one less number will put us at Lylo rather than Mylo if we no lynch and continue as normal)

Eh... no?

We have 7 players left. If someone dies this night we are left at six. So we just wasted a lynch. Now we have to lynch the two baddies left in the two remaining days.

[colonialbob]

(one less number will put us at Lylo rather than Mylo if we no lynch and continue as normal)

Eh... no?

We have 7 players left. If someone dies this night we are left at six. So we just wasted a lynch. Now we have to lynch the two baddies left in the two remaining days.

If we had lynched town yesterday:
Night 4: 4 town, 2 mafia
Day 5: 3 town, 2 mafia - LyLo
Night 5: 3 town, 1 mafia
Day 6: 2 town, 1 mafia - LyLo

Going no lynch:
Night 4: 5 town, 2 mafia
Day 5: 4 town, 2 mafia - MyLo
Night 5 (no lynch): 4 town, 2 mafia
Day 6: 3 town, 2 mafia - LyLo, same as Day 5 above

or

Night 5: 4 town, 1 mafia
Day 6: 3 town, 1 mafia - MyLo

That all checks out, right?

[Jackofhearts2005]

You should go no lynch on your last chance to maximize chances to stop kills as well as get the best POE possible. I don't have room to complain, though, having not caught up. It's been a hell of a week, as Bob knows.

Anyway, back to catching up.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sig: @ LC, yer mafia cause you're being sarcastic (disagree with this being an LC tell and I think I have a decent track record of figuring out LC's alignment). Blahblahblah.

Dunya: Sig and LC probably t/t

Wilgy: Kyle asking for Quin and LC to talk about each other is filler. Kyle saying "Just because I'm not throwing out accusations doesn't mean I'm not hunting. What do you want from me" is scummy.

Kyle: Here's a rainbow. On a scale of 1-5, I think everyone is literally within 1 of null. Can't read Wilgy because Wilgy is only posting smilies. Says MP is doing good things but then gives him a null 3. (Yuck. Comes across as scared of backlash. Inability to read very clearly town Wilgy is ugly, too.)

Speed: "Probably LC and Epi" (lolwut? Bizarrospeak)

Quin: @Kyle, your read of me is crap and ignores most of my content.

Speed: @Kyle, your reads are soft as fuck.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wilgy: But seriously, Kyle is bad.

Kyle: Quin, I only had you slightly lower than null and is kinda gut over content. Don't be mad at me. (See what I mean? Scared.)

Quin: Why don't you read me based on my content then?

Sig: Reiterates that LC is bad because sarcasm and gut reads.

Dunya: Wilgy is on point. Clearly town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dragon D. Luffy - Posts
Kylemii - Posts
MovingPictures07 - Posts
speedchuck - Posts

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This post is tops.

I could see this as the mafia. Probably DDL town. Maaaaaaybe Speed town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kyle: Quin, I don't think anything of your content (ffs...)

Quin: Kyle is probably town (lol)

DDL: Sig, I think you are bad because you are fishing for the cop's role (but he's not....)

Blah blah

DDL: Agree with Speed's LC analysis. Moderate town read on LC. Walking back my "Sig is bad" read a bit cause I feel like we've clashed like this before as t/t and I've been wrong. (good look) Quin is focusing on the merits of fakeclaiming so much that I think it is an excuse to not hunt. Vote Quin. (I know he was wrong but it was a fair point)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack: "That's DDL."

Babyofhearts: "We don't like DDL."

Jack: "Yeah. He's probably bad. That's Quin."

Baby: "We don't like Quin."

Jack: "No, we do like Quin. He's good."

Baby: "I don't like Quin. YOU LIKE QUIN."

[Jackofhearts2005]

Kyle: I'm not so sold on my (non) reads from before anymore.

Sig: Still wanna lynch LC or a non poster (bleh)

Daisy: MP pressure voting me is a literal haha joke. Fake claiming is fine. Dunya arguing against fake claiming with a rep for being best townie eva makes me suspect Dunya. DDL is suspicious because gut. (I like this post.)

Kyle: How long have you played mafia, DDL? (weak but I guess it IS still day 1)

Wilgy: I also like Daisy's most recent post

MP and Daisy: Cutely talking about being at a concert together while both phone posting in the same mafia game. Fucking adorable.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.

Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?

Yikes.

This is not indicative of a townie mindset.

Thought you have looked good so far, but Iwould like your one elaborate on what compelledyou to say this @

Worth noting MP's opinion of Kyle.

What think ya'll. Framing or distancing?

I'm thinking framing in isolation.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.

Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?

Yikes.

This is not indicative of a townie mindset.

Thought you have looked good so far, but Iwould like your one elaborate on what compelledyou to say this @

Worth noting MP's opinion of Kyle.

What think ya'll. Framing or distancing?

I'm thinking framing in isolation.

To elaborate, I don't like Kyle's weaksauce Day 1 play. I don't like his reaction to the Quin train. I don't like his reaction to MP. This makes me believe he is bad.


However, there wasn't a whole ton of pressure on Kyle except for Wilgy's firm insistence that Kyle is bad. So I don't know if I buy this as distancing for that reason. MP looks like he's trying to start something, not jump on board before he's left behind.

[Jackofhearts2005]

MOving my vote to Kyle

Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol

Okay nevermind. Why don't you guys call your votes? Makes me look stupid when there's a train on Kyle and I'm reading the thread and I didn't even know it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Is Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.

Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?

Yikes.

This is not indicative of a townie mindset.

Thought you have looked good so far, but Iwould like your one elaborate on what compelledyou to say this @

I was honestly just a little annoyed that I was being talked down to.

I suppose that makes sense. I’m not inspired but I’m not keen to lynch you on your first game back unless I really think you’re bad.

Unvote for now as I go back to catching up

That was a fast excuse

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol

We have an 8-way lynch tie right now.

That is a lot of spread.

Gggggggrrrrrr

Call your votes!

[Kylemii]

Kyle: Quin, I only had you slightly lower than null and is kinda gut over content. Don't be mad at me. (See what I mean? Scared.)

Hey good morning everyone.

I want to ask about the "being afraid to condemn someone to death after first meeting them is mafia behavior" thing. Like is that a real meta that's come up in the community from the last few years?

Why would that ever arise as a thing? It seems incredibly counterintuitive.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Emphasis on "afraid" as scum indicative. As scum, one must be careful to not say something that gives away their alignment.

As my pal/rival Silver Lantern would say, townies have no fear.

[Kylemii]

Emphasis on "afraid" as scum indicative. As scum, one must be careful to not say something that gives away their alignment.

As my pal/rival Silver Lantern would say, townies have no fear.

But that's wrong. In a battle between informed minority and uninformed majority, why would recklessness be the default?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't like lynching no-posters on Day 1.

You're my new favorite player.

Point in DDL's favor assuming at least one of Speed/Kyle is bad.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Emphasis on "afraid" as scum indicative. As scum, one must be careful to not say something that gives away their alignment.

As my pal/rival Silver Lantern would say, townies have no fear.

But that's wrong. In a battle between informed minority and uninformed majority, why would recklessness be the default?

Lacking fear and being wreck less are not the same.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

(one less number will put us at Lylo rather than Mylo if we no lynch and continue as normal)

Eh... no?

We have 7 players left. If someone dies this night we are left at six. So we just wasted a lynch. Now we have to lynch the two baddies left in the two remaining days.

If we had lynched town yesterday:
Night 4: 4 town, 2 mafia
Day 5: 3 town, 2 mafia - LyLo
Night 5: 3 town, 1 mafia
Day 6: 2 town, 1 mafia - LyLo

Going no lynch:
Night 4: 5 town, 2 mafia
Day 5: 4 town, 2 mafia - MyLo
Night 5 (no lynch): 4 town, 2 mafia
Day 6: 3 town, 2 mafia - LyLo, same as Day 5 above

or

Night 5: 4 town, 1 mafia
Day 6: 3 town, 1 mafia - MyLo

That all checks out, right?

It does.

And it proves what we did was the worst move. Because not only we missed a chance to take down mafia, but now we have to get it right with 6 players left, as opposed to 5.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Unless we no lynch again tomorrow, which has now become the most optimal move again, unless the doctor/jailkeeper does his work.

[Jackofhearts2005]

speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con
dunya
sig
SpankGangsta
NewTraditionalist
Spacedaisy
MovingPictures07
Quin
Kylemii
DrWilgy

Though I must admit that the only reason wilgy is near the bottom is that posting style he uses. I hate it, he can hide behind it, and last time someone hid behind a posting style, it was Rico and Rico was scum. I called him out and we lynched him.

It doesn't amuse me.

Don't be offended if you're low on the list. I'm not particularly impressed with anybody. And tiers are about equal.

The Wilgy read is weak for two reasons.

1) Rico did the same in Nightvale and was town. Iirc, Speed was in that game.

2) Wilgy made himself clear.

The "hiding" thing is a fair complaint.



Speed, I have a good idea of your opinions on DDL and Kyle at this point in the game. Tell me about your opinions on them now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

Lots of recent suspicion has been thrown on you. However, I like your day one (at least the section I've read today) quite a lot.

Can you tell me where your head is at?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Dragon D. Luffy - I've actually come around on him, i read through his day 1 behavior in pokemon and princesses and this seems closer to pokemon than princesses. it's not 1:1 but i can see how this is just like... who he is
DrWilgy - your way of posting is frustrating but now that i've gotten used to it i.... i kind of get it? i was seeing it as a way to avoid responsibility, but you're still changing opinions and prodding at stuff.
dunya - generally still just good vibes. nothing substantial has changed with regards to her.
Kylemii - that's me.
Long Con - i think i said positive before but i'm feeling slightly more sketchy on him than before
MovingPictures07 - his "oh i see i'm joining a wagon but i guess i'll stay there" seems just like.... i don't know how to word it. overly concerned with appearances i guess. it irked me.
NewTraditionalist - get in here friend, come play with us.
Quin - Something bothers me about how they seem very concerned with what people think about their gameplay, i haven't really changed my opinion on them... the "vote low poster" thing also doesn't reflect super well.
sig - no change from before
Spacedaisy - her interractions with MP have put her on a watch list for me, something's fishy.
SpankGangsta - come play with usssssssssssssssss
speedchuck - no change here either.

So....

Frankensteins:
-Kylemii
Ghosts:
-DDL
-dunya
-speedchuck
Zombies:
-Long Con
-Dr. Wilgy
-sig
Werewolves:
- Spacedaisy
Vampires:
- MovingPictures07
- Quin
Ghosts But They're Not Real Ghosts, They're Just Regular Kids Wearing Sheets That Aren't Talking To Anyone And It's Super Weird:
-NewTraditionalist
-SpankGangsta

At first I liked this post but I don't think I really do.

Things that bother me are like "I like LC less, now." Fucking why?

Additionally, putting teammates as second or third from the bottom is distancing. "Oh yeah, I dislike MP, too, kinda. Let's lynch Quin."

Would be easier to tell if that's an accurate portrayal of this post if people would call their votes.

[Jackofhearts2005]

my wifi is acting wonky rn so i'm putting my vote on MP for now. i won't necessarily keep it there, i just don't want to miss the vote

An hour and 15 minutes after MP is not lowest on his rainbow. Is this inconsistent? Idk. Idk where the votes were. Somebody help me with this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?

Can you explain how it could be informative?

The regular ways?

Honestly ties are much less informative than other lynches IMO. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who would you want to tie, though?

How do you figure that?

And it's already in a tie including 2 people I suspect so I'm contented already.

Who was tied at this point.

(Sorry, Kyle. You got a lot of content in a row.)

[Kylemii]

Emphasis on "afraid" as scum indicative. As scum, one must be careful to not say something that gives away their alignment.

As my pal/rival Silver Lantern would say, townies have no fear.

But that's wrong. In a battle between informed minority and uninformed majority, why would recklessness be the default?

Lacking fear and being wreck less are not the same.

But it is though, like by definition, in real life and also mafia.

do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?

Can you explain how it could be informative?

The regular ways?

Honestly ties are much less informative than other lynches IMO. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who would you want to tie, though?

How do you figure that?

And it's already in a tie including 2 people I suspect so I'm contented already.

Who was tied at this point.

(Sorry, Kyle. You got a lot of content in a row.)

The tie was MP, Quin, and NewTraditions... I think. It might have been the other absentee.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'd like the people on NT (MP07, sig) to move somewhere more productive. Allow NT to be replaced or something. It says nothing about NT that they've been quiet, and everything about you if you can't find a legitimate lynch in this game.

Also I'm afraid Quin will join you and waste the day's scumhunting.

I like this post from Speed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy
1
Voters: Long Con

Kylemii
1
Voters: dunya

MovingPictures07
2
Voters: Kylemii, DrWilgy

NewTraditionalist
2
Voters: MovingPictures07, sig

Quin
2
Voters: speedchuck, Dragon D. Luffy

No Lynch
1
Voters: Quin

There's a snapshot of the lynch before I cast my final vote and go to work. Three vote leaders at this time, and MP07 is my biggest suspect among those three. I will change my vote to MP07, and It's not going to change.

Worth noting, esp Kyle's vote for MP.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Stopping at post 501

[JaggedJimmyJay]

SQUAAAWWWK walk the plank walk the plank scurvy landlubbers

Spoiler: show

Spacedaisy was killed. She was the town doctor.

Day 5 begins. It'll last 48 hours. Give me a moment to throw up a poll.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Boo. Hiss.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Dragon D. Luffy

Lots of recent suspicion has been thrown on you. However, I like your day one (at least the section I've read today) quite a lot.

Can you tell me where your head is at?

I've lost focus on this game in like Day 2 and now I'm barely keeping up with it.

I'm gonna try to ISO everyone today to see if I can get a grasp of this game again.

[Jackofhearts2005]

We appear to be at mylo.

4 vs 2. Mislynch and tomorrow is 2 vs 2.

No lynch is the only real option.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

How did we come to the point where we no-lynched twice?

That's two extra kills we gave to the mafia.

What the hell, guys?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If there isn't at least one baddie who voted no lynch last day I'm banging my head on my keyboard.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

Can we get the last poll results to the front page?

[Jackofhearts2005]

[mention]sig[/mention]
[mention]colonialbob[/mention]

Best contribute all you can today. Imo, baddies try to mislynch DDL, Speed or Kyle tomorrow cause they've gathered the most suspicion and can't all be bad. That means tonight, they shoot Sig as probably the most townie or they shoot me or Bob to not give things away.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

For easy reference:

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Votes per player:

DDL:
1- Wilgy
2- Dunya
3- Quin
4- Kylemii

Sig:
1- Quin
2- DDL
3- Quin
4- Kylemii

Speedchuck:
1- Wilgy
2- MP
3- abstain
4- No Lynch

Kelymii:
1- MP
2- MP
3- Quin
4- No Lynch

Jack:
3- Jack
4- abstain

Bob:
4- No Lynch

[Dragon D. Luffy]

We should look at the two replacements (Jack and Bob)

Their vote tracking is abysmal. One has pretty much abstained so far and the other hopped onto the "Worst Move a Civvie Could Possibly Made" lynch and I like to believe he is experienced enough at this game not to do that.

Granted, they are not the only ones, but I think we have been paying too much attention to people who have been around since day 1.