Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[dunya]

let's lynch Epignosis and rid ourselves of this woman-hater who doesn't have the patience to read 22 pages cos he's a man dude guy boy

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jackofhearts2005 question about my power
”If your target uses an offensive action against a player who is not part of Lord Rico's army, they have a 15% chance to nightkill their target”

So if i target a player who executes a nightkill, his/her chance to succeed is reduced from 100 to 15?
or does it mean that any offensive action, not necessarily nightkill, has a 15% chance to kill the target?
or something else?

The second one.

It will not reduce nightkill chances and it will stack.

So if you target a fighter, they will have a 15% chance to kill. If you target a Myrmidon, they will have a 30% chance to kill instead of a 15% chance. If you target the mafia hitman, you change 100% to 115% which does nothing.

[Dr. White]

DDL no, there's nothing to suspect about my posts, it's all just real. I refrained from admitting that I didn't know whether I was Civ or bad, because that's just to La Dee Da, but I could have said it honestly in my earlier post. I am not bad.

This is also bad, and Spy also gave me similar vibes.

who is Spy? do you mean sprityo?

yeah, forgot his name and didn't wanna haul back through those pages.

Is there a way for me to be notified when I am quoted? It's not showing up for me.

[Epignosis]

let's lynch Epignosis and rid ourselves of this woman-hater who doesn't have the patience to read 22 pages cos he's a man dude guy boy

Women bore me except when they excite me.

Just how I'm wired.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution? Seems like he was trying to feign activity. The split between him and colonial is very interesting.

I however found JJJ "strong town reading" Colonial interesting, since it was solely on the grounds of him listing his own reads. Mafia can easily do that as well as to not appear like they are parroting . That is a very interesting link given the colonial-Mac dynamic.

Nutella jumped on Mac pretty early. Not sure if it was a pressure vote, but it really put me off towards them.

Not sure how DDL plays here. He seems more passive and backing down a bit, I will keep a watch on him for sure. Anyone who wants to give me his meta summary feel free.

Other person of note was dunya. Pretty much just need more time to see if she's genuinely town leading, or "the string pulling" mafioso that was mentioned earlier.

[dunya]

DDL no, there's nothing to suspect about my posts, it's all just real. I refrained from admitting that I didn't know whether I was Civ or bad, because that's just to La Dee Da, but I could have said it honestly in my earlier post. I am not bad.

This is also bad, and Spy also gave me similar vibes.

who is Spy? do you mean sprityo?

yeah, forgot his name and didn't wanna haul back through those pages.

Is there a way for me to be notified when I am quoted? It's not showing up for me.

[mention]Dr. White[/mention] see if you're notified now.

Would it be possible to quote me something specific sprityo said that pinged you? He said a lot of wacky shit, but what in particular made you feel iffy?

[Kylemii]

I want to read this thread. I really do.

There are 22 pages and every time I look at something it's speculation about game I'm not familiar with outside of Smash Bros. references.

so many of the day 0 posts were like one line posts about like "hey I want to be a mage" "you're a mage now" the actual important posts are longer and easy to identify. it's really not as bad as it looks.

[MacDougall]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

[dunya]

I'm writing a paper and mafia'ing at the same time, and started writing Lynch Epignosis in my paper by mistake. it's a sign guys...

VOTE EPIGNOSIS

[MacDougall]

So are we meant to be sharing backstories or something?

[Epignosis]

I'm writing a paper and mafia'ing at the same time, and started writing Lynch Epignosis in my paper by mistake. it's a sign guys...

VOTE EPIGNOSIS

First time a girl's ever scribbled my name absentmindedly. Yes, dunya, I will go to the dance with you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Someone talk to me about the helping of interesting casserole Dr. White has baked.

[dunya]

So are we meant to be sharing backstories or something?

I did that by mistake and got passively-aggressively scolded at by Jay so I wouldn't do that if I were you.

and by scolded I mean he was all sophisticated cool with his "backstories are connected to powers, I won't give up my backstory yet" cos he's cooler than everyone else.

[Dr. White]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution? Seems like he was trying to feign activity. The split between him and colonial is very interesting.

I however found JJJ "strong town reading" Colonial interesting, since it was solely on the grounds of him listing his own reads. Mafia can easily do that as well as to not appear like they are parroting . That is a very interesting link given the colonial-Mac dynamic.

Nutella jumped on Mac pretty early. Not sure if it was a pressure vote, but it really put me off towards them.

Not sure how DDL plays here. He seems more passive and backing down a bit, I will keep a watch on him for sure. Anyone who wants to give me his meta summary feel free.

Other person of note was dunya. Pretty much just need more time to see if she's genuinely town leading, or "the string pulling" mafioso that was mentioned earlier.

Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.

[lapluie]

I can almost feel a tangible trepidation on the part of [VOTE: LAPLUIE] aubergine[VOTE: .] aubergine

[VOTE:

Um excuse me? I just caught up on this whole fiasco] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

Someone tell me why Epi is town.

[dunya]

Someone talk to me about the helping of interesting casserole Dr. White has baked.

idgi. Is the word "interesting" scum-tell? I can't tell if I've ever used it or not... /selfconscious moment

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I can almost feel a tangible trepidation on the part of [VOTE: LAPLUIE] aubergine[VOTE: .] aubergine

[VOTE:

Um excuse me? I just caught up on this whole fiasco] aubergine

[VOTE:

Don't worry about me, just go ahead and share the thoughts you have from that effort to catch up.] aubergine

[Dr. White]

DDL no, there's nothing to suspect about my posts, it's all just real. I refrained from admitting that I didn't know whether I was Civ or bad, because that's just to La Dee Da, but I could have said it honestly in my earlier post. I am not bad.

This is also bad, and Spy also gave me similar vibes.

who is Spy? do you mean sprityo?

yeah, forgot his name and didn't wanna haul back through those pages.

Is there a way for me to be notified when I am quoted? It's not showing up for me.

@Dr. White see if you're notified now.

Would it be possible to quote me something specific sprityo said that pinged you? He said a lot of wacky shit, but what in particular made you feel iffy?

I wasn't . I will get that for you after I grab something to eat

[Epignosis]

Someone tell me why Epi is town.

Because only a moron would pick me willingly to be on his team.

[Epignosis]

Keep those lists coming folks.

Chop chop.

[MacDougall]

Interesting

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.

No that can't be it, because you didn't "peg" me as anything. You called my behavior "interesting". Is that a read? What does that mean?

[lapluie]

let's lynch Epignosis and rid ourselves of this woman-hater who doesn't have the patience to read 22 pages cos he's a man dude guy boy

Women bore me except when they excite me.

Just how I'm wired.

What an odd response tbh

[Dr. White]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

This is a bad reply. I clearly know how to play mafia, and you clearly are twisting what I said. You couldn't have possibly had gotten any solid info on that many people enough to make that many reads at the time you posted that in the thread. Gattling a ton of random reads doesn't really give us much except possible connections back to you for later game. If you were vacationing why choose this as your one contribution to the thread? Once again, seems to be you attempting to set up a presence in the thread with those "reads".

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Someone talk to me about the helping of interesting casserole Dr. White has baked.

idgi. Is the word "interesting" scum-tell? I can't tell if I've ever used it or not... /selfconscious moment

The word "interesting" is just the hook. It's a bit of a meme around here. What I actually dislike most about that post is the manner by which he attacked Mac:

"Why posit your intuitions as contributions?"

What? Are we playing the same game?

[Dr. White]

Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.

No that can't be it, because you didn't "peg" me as anything. You called my behavior "interesting". Is that a read? What does that mean?

Interesting, meaning worthy of note. Adding that to the context of you strongly town reading someone off of one action this early in the game and I believe you got your answer J dog.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.

No that can't be it, because you didn't "peg" me as anything. You called my behavior "interesting". Is that a read? What does that mean?

Interesting, meaning worthy of note. Adding that to the context of you strongly town reading someone off of one action this early in the game and I believe you got your answer J dog.

I still don't have an answer. I have vague implications. Is it suspicious to strongly town read someone of one action this early in the game? Talk straight, Doc.

[dunya]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

This is a bad reply. I clearly know how to play mafia, and you clearly are twisting what I said. You couldn't have possibly had gotten any solid info on that many people enough to make that many reads at the time you posted that in the thread. Gattling a ton of random reads doesn't really give us much except possible connections back to you for later game. If you were vacationing why choose this as your one contribution to the thread? Once again, seems to be you attempting to set up a presence in the thread with those "reads".

The Syndicate has something weird here called Gun To Head reads (which I think are easy to fake, so I think the exercise is a waste of time when performed in a group usually). Are you familiar with those? Because MacDougall's defense was that those fast civ/sus reads were GTH reads which is basically a game where you make a fast, uninformed decision on how you feel about players by placing them in one of two categories: town or scum--without analyzing or backing up with reasons.

[dunya]

Did I peg you right already so you go for the linguistic call out? So sad.

No that can't be it, because you didn't "peg" me as anything. You called my behavior "interesting". Is that a read? What does that mean?

Interesting, meaning worthy of note. Adding that to the context of you strongly town reading someone off of one action this early in the game and I believe you got your answer J dog.

I still don't have an answer. I have vague implications. Is it suspicious to strongly town read someone of one action this early in the game? Talk straight, Doc.

He's referring to your town read of cBob. Don't play obtuse and go around in circles with our new members, Jay.

Jay throws town reads left and right, Dr. White. He throws scum reads out the same way. In this beginning of Day 1, he must have voted for 3 or 4 people already and called out several more. It's just his play style and not really alignment indicative. If he sees something good, he gives you civ credit for it. If he sees anything bad, he deducts points. Me and him are alike in how we keep player tallies that way.

[lapluie]

is there actually just no poll? on purpose?

Ya im confused by this also ._.

[Epignosis]

let's lynch Epignosis and rid ourselves of this woman-hater who doesn't have the patience to read 22 pages cos he's a man dude guy boy

Women bore me except when they excite me.

Just how I'm wired.

What an odd response tbh

What's odd about it?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

He's referring to your town read of cBob. Don't play obtuse and go around in circles with our new members, Jay.

I know what he's referring to. I don't know what he's implying about that.

[dunya]

is there actually just no poll? on purpose?

Ya im confused by this also ._.

Yes, votes are in the thread in ALL CAPS, BOLD and UNDERLINED and a manual tally should follow each page so we can keep track of order they were placed. Let me see if I can grab and update the last tally.

[Dr. White]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

This is a bad reply. I clearly know how to play mafia, and you clearly are twisting what I said. You couldn't have possibly had gotten any solid info on that many people enough to make that many reads at the time you posted that in the thread. Gattling a ton of random reads doesn't really give us much except possible connections back to you for later game. If you were vacationing why choose this as your one contribution to the thread? Once again, seems to be you attempting to set up a presence in the thread with those "reads".

The Syndicate has something weird here called Gun To Head reads (which I think are easy to fake, so I think the exercise is a waste of time when performed in a group usually). Are you familiar with those? Because MacDougall's defense was that those fast civ/sus reads were GTH reads which is basically a game where you make a fast, uninformed decision on how you feel about players by placing them in one of two categories: town or scum--without analyzing or backing up with reasons.

Never have. Sounds futile as the only benefit would be cross referencing those reads later when more alignment info is present. Seems much more of a scum ploy as I've previously explained, especially with the amount given.

[Long Con]

I think you’re misinterpreting that and JOH is simply not a proponent of the Oxford comma. Relating to mafia, I don’t think it tells us anything.

The Oxford Comma is essential to use, and it has been proven in a court of law for a substantial amount of money.

I don’t really feel like I can trust JJJ right now. That MacDougall line of interrogation seems like a whole lot of latching onto nothing just to make it appear as if there’s a semi-reasonable case. Although if I were mafia in this game I would probably take advantage of the set-up confusion some people are experiencing and just lay low for a little while so I dunno. What do you all think?

I was thinking the same thing. People like me, LOL. People like TonyStarkPrime, Dr. White, Kenway, Kites, Iron_Dwarf, and ColinIsCool.

[VOTE: ] aubergine

[lapluie]

is there actually just no poll? on purpose?

Ya im confused by this also ._.

Yes, votes are in the thread in ALL CAPS, BOLD and UNDERLINED and a manual tally should follow each page so we can keep track of order they were placed. Let me see if I can grab and update the last tally.

OKAY THANKS

[Epignosis]

I don't think I'm going to vote for anybody today.

[dunya]

Running tally:

[2] MacDougall - nutella, Dragon D. Luffy
[1] DrWilgy - Marmot
[1] Dragon D. Luffy - colonialbob
[1] sprityo - JaggedJimmyJay
[1] Epignosis - dunya
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Long Con

----

Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, Epignosis, gwilikers6, Iron_Dwarf, Kenway, Kites, Kylemii, lapluie, MacDougall, Quin, rabbit8, rundontwalk, sig, sprityo, TonyStarkPrime

[nutella]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

This is a bad reply. I clearly know how to play mafia, and you clearly are twisting what I said. You couldn't have possibly had gotten any solid info on that many people enough to make that many reads at the time you posted that in the thread. Gattling a ton of random reads doesn't really give us much except possible connections back to you for later game. If you were vacationing why choose this as your one contribution to the thread? Once again, seems to be you attempting to set up a presence in the thread with those "reads".

The Syndicate has something weird here called Gun To Head reads (which I think are easy to fake, so I think the exercise is a waste of time when performed in a group usually). Are you familiar with those? Because MacDougall's defense was that those fast civ/sus reads were GTH reads which is basically a game where you make a fast, uninformed decision on how you feel about players by placing them in one of two categories: town or scum--without analyzing or backing up with reasons.

Never have. Sounds futile as the only benefit would be cross referencing those reads later when more alignment info is present. Seems much more of a scum ploy as I've previously explained, especially with the amount given.

I'm not usually a fan of GTH exercises. Recently I associate them with a game where Jay asked everyone to GTH read every player and he turned out to be scum. I'm sometimes okay with providing them depending on how it's asked, but I much prefer rainbows or more backed-up/nuanced reads

[Long Con]

Prince Rico's Army of Goodguyia
Ricochet - Lord
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
Marmot - Cavalier 2

Recruitable Players
ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
gwilikers6 - Monk
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman
DrWilgy - Pirate
Epignosis - Troubadour
MacDougall - Fighter 1
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
sprityo - Cleric
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

Replacement Units that Show Up In the Final Chapters
Sloonei - Lord
Speedchuck - Waifu Lord

The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

I didn't catch up on the first handful of pages... I think I started reading around when my draft time came.

Does the above post mean anything that anyone knows for sure? Specifically.... lapluie and sig... are they bad? I mean, I assume not for sure, because that's not how this kind of thing works... but what's up?

[dunya]

I do GTH reads by myself all the time, it's how my intuition works. I just don't think having a data sheet about what everyone's GTH reads are is fool proof in anyway to catching scum.

[lapluie]

When you are trying to enjoy a holiday with patchy reception while still trying to contribute the best you can I will be sure to make you feel like you aren't doing enough and see how you feel. Bye.

Ugh now I think he is being sincere here.

Yeah im not really sure how to feel about mac's posts.
maybe this is his new game behaviours as I have not seen it before(obviously )either way im still looking into it as much as I can

[Epignosis]

Prince Rico's Army of Goodguyia
Ricochet - Lord
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
Marmot - Cavalier 2

Recruitable Players
ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
gwilikers6 - Monk
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman
DrWilgy - Pirate
Epignosis - Troubadour
MacDougall - Fighter 1
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
sprityo - Cleric
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

Replacement Units that Show Up In the Final Chapters
Sloonei - Lord
Speedchuck - Waifu Lord

The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

I didn't catch up on the first handful of pages... I think I started reading around when my draft time came.

Does the above post mean anything that anyone knows for sure? Specifically.... lapluie and sig... are they bad? I mean, I assume not for sure, because that's not how this kind of thing works... but what's up?

I had the same question, but it's explained in the rules.

sig and lapluie aren't bad based on this. That's just where they are from (it's "flavor").

[Long Con]

I too do not like how Mac tried to make a quicklist of reads based on pretty much intuition alone. Even if on vacation, why posit that as contribution?

So in a game in which one is to determine who received a mafia role one should utilise no intuition whatsoever? Interesting. I have been playing the game wrong for 7 years.

This is a bad reply. I clearly know how to play mafia, and you clearly are twisting what I said. You couldn't have possibly had gotten any solid info on that many people enough to make that many reads at the time you posted that in the thread. Gattling a ton of random reads doesn't really give us much except possible connections back to you for later game. If you were vacationing why choose this as your one contribution to the thread? Once again, seems to be you attempting to set up a presence in the thread with those "reads".

The Syndicate has something weird here called Gun To Head reads (which I think are easy to fake, so I think the exercise is a waste of time when performed in a group usually). Are you familiar with those? Because MacDougall's defense was that those fast civ/sus reads were GTH reads which is basically a game where you make a fast, uninformed decision on how you feel about players by placing them in one of two categories: town or scum--without analyzing or backing up with reasons.

Never have. Sounds futile as the only benefit would be cross referencing those reads later when more alignment info is present. Seems much more of a scum ploy as I've previously explained, especially with the amount given.

I'm not usually a fan of GTH exercises. Recently I associate them with a game where Jay asked everyone to GTH read every player and he turned out to be scum. I'm sometimes okay with providing them depending on how it's asked, but I much prefer rainbows or more backed-up/nuanced reads

Hey, Pegasus sister! I assume we'll never vote for each other, right?

[Marmot]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] Whether you are from Goodguyia, Allyia, or Badguyia is irrelevant to your alignment.

The mafia are all most definitely from Badguyia per their backstories, but they are also given fake backstories from another region.

[Long Con]

Prince Rico's Army of Goodguyia
Ricochet - Lord
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
Marmot - Cavalier 2

Recruitable Players
ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
gwilikers6 - Monk
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman
DrWilgy - Pirate
Epignosis - Troubadour
MacDougall - Fighter 1
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
sprityo - Cleric
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

Replacement Units that Show Up In the Final Chapters
Sloonei - Lord
Speedchuck - Waifu Lord

The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

I didn't catch up on the first handful of pages... I think I started reading around when my draft time came.

Does the above post mean anything that anyone knows for sure? Specifically.... lapluie and sig... are they bad? I mean, I assume not for sure, because that's not how this kind of thing works... but what's up?

I had the same question, but it's explained in the rules.

sig and lapluie aren't bad based on this. That's just where they are from (it's "flavor").

I did see that some Civs will be from Badguyia, but I didn't expect them to be explicitly listed under the Evil Army. I don't know where I'm from.

[nutella]

Hey, Pegasus sister! I assume we'll never vote for each other, right?

yeah probably not elsie

[dunya]

Prince Rico's Army of Goodguyia
Ricochet - Lord
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
Marmot - Cavalier 2

Recruitable Players
ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
gwilikers6 - Monk
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman
DrWilgy - Pirate
Epignosis - Troubadour
MacDougall - Fighter 1
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
sprityo - Cleric
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

Replacement Units that Show Up In the Final Chapters
Sloonei - Lord
Speedchuck - Waifu Lord

The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

I didn't catch up on the first handful of pages... I think I started reading around when my draft time came.

Does the above post mean anything that anyone knows for sure? Specifically.... lapluie and sig... are they bad? I mean, I assume not for sure, because that's not how this kind of thing works... but what's up?

The good aren't good and the bad aren't bad. Nations are randomly assigned. There was some talk about Jay, RDW and Marmot's roles being linked (Paladin is the promoted Cavalier after all), but I don't see the connection between Thief 2 and Wyvern Rider the same way. Also, it would beg the question why Thief 2 and not Thief 1. So basically, your guess is as good as ours. Are you from either Goodguyia or Badguyia? You don't have to answer that question, unless you feel comfortable doing so.

[Epignosis]

Long Con is a civilian.

Keep those lists coming people.