Buffy the Vampire Slayer: At the Hellmouth (End Game)

[LoRab]

Well, one of the two is the SK.

Looking back, I don't think LoRab would have NKed Juliets. So imma waffle and move my vote to Lorab. One of them is bad, and one is the SK.

You're right that I wouldn't have killed JC. And I think Mac would and did. You're wrong about me being a vampire, but I don't know how to demonstrate that to you, but I ask you to put that suspicion aside. I think Glory is more dangerous, especially leading into a night where she kills. And I think Mac is Glory.

In looking back through his posts, he seems to have hinted at several different civ roles over the course of the game. Could be random things and not role hints, but a bit too much of a coincidence for there to be more than one instance of a line in a post being hinty. But it would make total sense for Glory to drop random hints in posts for multiple roles, with the false role check part of the role.

Yes, tin foil, I know. But I am believing more and more that Mac is Glory.

And I know that I'm civ.

linkitis: I don't think you made it up, nor did I say that. I think it was a wish a baddie would make, not a civ. And, in answer to your question, I hesitatingly am trusting SVS. Tranq I'm not reading as bad. Sig I'm not sure about--I have lingering thoughts of him being Spike.

[MacDougall]

[MacDougall]

I haven't hinted at any roles. You're talking shit to try to be saved. Respectable. No hard feelings there.

I'm not Glory. I'm not a vamp. If you are a civ you probably should try to convince me of someone else because I'm at least here to vote and I'm not voting myself. Tranq, SVS and speedchuck appear to have gone to sleep.

[MacDougall]

Remember the day that Lorab came back and tried to make a case on the only civ that was around to actually help save her?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[LoRab]

I haven't hinted at any roles. You're talking shit to try to be saved. Respectable. No hard feelings there.

I'm not Glory. I'm not a vamp. If you are a civ you probably should try to convince me of someone else because I'm at least here to vote and I'm not voting myself. Tranq, SVS and speedchuck appear to have gone to sleep.

My issue is that they were subtle enough that one could say this, but I also recognize that it's possible that I'm reading into words something that isn't there because of knowledge of the show.

And with your post after this, then help me rethink the others. What do you think of SVS, Tranq, and Sig?

I don't trust you but I'm willing to have my mind changed. I'm asking the same of others, and you deserve that I give the same to you.

[MacDougall]

I asked you first. You're in the hot seat. I have them as civ, civ and civ respectively. It's not you I need to convince it's the other way around.

I think you're Angelus and are banking on getting the votes close enough to get a mislynch. Am I wrong?

[MacDougall]

Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?

[LoRab]

I asked you first. You're in the hot seat. I have them as civ, civ and civ respectively. It's not you I need to convince it's the other way around.

I think you're Angelus and are banking on getting the votes close enough to get a mislynch. Am I wrong?

You are wrong.

As to the first part, if you read them as civ, civ, and civ, and given that you suspect me, unless you are saying you suspect chuck, then are you admitting that you're bad?

[MacDougall]

I am saying you are bad. Obviously. Any of the civs could be Glory. I have nfi.

[MacDougall]

Are you admitting you are bad by only having me as a suspect? C'mon. Get over the idea I am bad. It's a dead end. Show me why I should change my read on one of the three that isn't obviously Buffy.

[MacDougall]

Sig I see you posting in Fire Emblem. This shit is more important.

[speedchuck]

Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus

My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.

[LoRab]

Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?

The 2 that I specifically noticed--there were other moments when I was reading earlier that made me think hint, but I can't remember what ehy were to find them easily. These 2 stuck out.

Xander:

Okay should be sweet now though I fucked up and posted words so I might get recursed again.

You are probably wondering why the videos. Well I wished that Wilgy would get cursed to post animal rights propaganda videos and the wish granted instead made me post cute cat videos.

Why would you make a wish about a dead player spamming the thread with OT-ness? It would seem to me that such could only distract from conversation.

I made the wish on night one. I thought it would be fun.

Oz:

Timmer and LoRab are really raising my hackles with their votes.

[speedchuck]

Wow I did not catch that Oz claim.

I thought Mac was Caleb.

Why so many hintclaims, Mac?

[MacDougall]

Haha okay well I can see why you thought I was hinting at Oz now but I didn't mean it. I don't understand why that first one is Xander though.

[MacDougall]

Wow I did not catch that Oz claim.

I thought Mac was Caleb.

Why so many hintclaims, Mac?

Both were not intentional.

[LoRab]

Caleb
Buffy Summers
Daniel 'Oz' Osbourne
Cordelia Chase
Glory
Angelus

My guess as to the living roles. I don't think this counts as outing anyone. I could totally be wrong about some of these.

According to information sent to me by Willow, Caleb has been dead since night 1.

As to giving any evience to back up that claim, the info sent is why I trusted her early, especially after she posted trust in me (confirming for me that it was her). And I didn't share this earlier because I didn't want to share the information unless it was necessary.

[MacDougall]

I am unfamiliar with Buffy guys. You're barking up the wrong tree.

Also not a role hint.

[speedchuck]

I am unfamiliar with Buffy guys. You're barking up the wrong tree.

Also not a role hint.

Is it an alignment hint?

Wolves is Mac.

[speedchuck]

Okay, now I've narrowed Mac down to two roles. Nice. Thanks LoRab.

(Not trying to be condescending. I am here to help figure things out.)

[MacDougall]

I'm actually none of those roles. I am Scooby himself. Special role not on the role list. Black Con games have those sometimes. One of the roles is a fake role.

My special ability is the ability to sniff out the assailant. And it's you Lorab. It was you all along.

[LoRab]

Wow I did not catch that Oz claim.

I thought Mac was Caleb.

Why so many hintclaims, Mac?

See post I just made--Linkitis fail. But Mac is definitely not Caleb. I am positive about this.

Haha okay well I can see why you thought I was hinting at Oz now but I didn't mean it. I don't understand why that first one is Xander though.

It's what Xander says after everyone figures out he was the one who summoned Sweet on the show, when they were all forced to sing everything (in the musical episode)

[MacDougall]

And you would have gotten away with it too if not for these meddling kids. Right?

[MacDougall]

Wow I did not catch that Oz claim.

I thought Mac was Caleb.

Why so many hintclaims, Mac?

See post I just made--Linkitis fail. But Mac is definitely not Caleb. I am positive about this.

Haha okay well I can see why you thought I was hinting at Oz now but I didn't mean it. I don't understand why that first one is Xander though.

It's what Xander says after everyone figures out he was the one who summoned Sweet on the show, when they were all forced to sing everything (in the musical episode)

That's cool but I didn't know that so ok.

I need a rooby rack.

[LoRab]

You know the numbers don't add up for there to be a secret role, right?

[MacDougall]

I believe we have identified the culprit. It was the caretaker the entire time!

Why is it never an actual magical creature. Scooby brought forth the rise of atheism.

[MacDougall]

You know the numbers don't add up for there to be a secret role, right?

Yeah one of them is fake mate.

[LoRab]

So are you going the route of admitting you're bad?

[MacDougall]

So are you going the route of admitting you're bad?

No I am just having a laugh. You're bad.

[speedchuck]

Mac come on. Trying to actually figure this out here.

[MacDougall]

I was hoping not to have to do this but you leave me no choice.

Dayvig Lorab.

[MacDougall]

Mac come on. Trying to actually figure this out here.

Ok ok. Someone read tranq.

[speedchuck]

Welp. I had Mac down to Spike/Glory, since Caleb was dead.

[speedchuck]

We're going to have a fricking hour to reset and figure out the lynch when that kill goes through.

Thanx Mac

[MacDougall]

I don't really have a dayvig buddy.

[speedchuck]

. . .

Then I'm out of role hints for you. That leaves me with Glory.

[LoRab]

I was hoping not to have to do this but you leave me no choice.

Dayvig Lorab.

Wait...you're trying to role claim now? Are you telling me now that this wasn't a hint before?

Remember the day that Lorab came back and tried to make a case on the only civ that was around to actually help save her?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

(before I stated the roles I had notice you claim)

[MacDougall]

Wrongtown. Population you. Glory is here but it's not me.

[MacDougall]

I was hoping not to have to do this but you leave me no choice.

Dayvig Lorab.

Wait...you're trying to role claim now? Are you telling me now that this wasn't a hint before?

Remember the day that Lorab came back and tried to make a case on the only civ that was around to actually help save her?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

(before I stated the roles I had notice you claim)

I haven't role claimed once.

[speedchuck]

Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?

What is this then?

[MacDougall]

Or hinted.

Not once. I think it's poor form.

[LoRab]

Wrongtown. Population you. Glory is here but it's not me.

I admit you could be Angel, and one of the other seeming civs is Glory.

linkitis: dayvig wasn't a role claim? Although technically, you're right--you haven't role claimed once. It's been multiple times.

[MacDougall]

Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?

What is this then?

She told me i had hinted and I asked her to show me where... because I haven't.

I can see why she thought I had though.

[MacDougall]

Wrongtown. Population you. Glory is here but it's not me.

I admit you could be Angel, and one of the other seeming civs is Glory.

linkitis: dayvig wasn't a role claim? Although technically, you're right--you haven't role claimed once. It's been multiple times.

Not a role claim. Not Angelus. Not Glory. Try again.

[speedchuck]

Let's start by pointing out where I role hinted and work from there?

What is this then?

She told me i had hinted and I asked her to show me where... because I haven't.

I can see why she thought I had though.

Are you treating alignment hinting and role-hinting as two separate things?

[MacDougall]

I haven't hinted about anything at all.

Speedchuck this Lorab lynch is good. It will make you happy. Just chill.

[speedchuck]

I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS

[LoRab]

I haven't hinted about anything at all.

Speedchuck this Lorab lynch is good. It will make you happy. Just chill.

You haven't hinted about anything at all because you've just been lying.

Stop deflecting.

[speedchuck]

speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.

Sorry sir but you made me the wrong colour.

"What color should I make you?"

Blue

This threw me for a long and wild loop fam

[MacDougall]

You will be happy speedchuck. She is evil. I got you fam.