Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:15 am
I also read some previous Spacedaisy games. Novaselinever made a good point.
In Mafia of Unfortunate Events Spacedaisy fell behind for real life issues, but made a concentrated effort when she was around, and gave a long explanation of why she wasn't around. She was civilian here.
In Fiddler on the Roof Mafia, Spacedaisy was her, and she did specificallyrequest to be lynched. This was in an Endgame scenario where Spacedaisy was the only mafia left, but the pressure on her had been building, and supatown Mac was already ready to lynch her.
This game aligns more with Spacedaisy from Fiddler on the Roof. The exception here is that the pressure wasn't there. Spacedaisy's response to nova was much less provoked. Nova only asked if she had caught up on the game thread, no one (that I recall) was pushing for Spacedaisy's lynch.
Watch out for this one when I flip. His early reasoning against me was bad and he doubled down on it now.
Also good luck, I don't think my civ and baddie meta are that different. My involvement is entirely based upon circumstances and how far behind I fall. I'm not bad. So this flip will be fun. Frankly I don't mind being lynched, I really am not helping. But I love knowing you all can't read me.
I would give nova a pass because he misinterpreted my post as daring him to vote me. When it was really me trying to say I have no desire to hide behind non-activity. If someone legitimately suspects me, my absence should not keep them from voting me.
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:15 am
I also read some previous Spacedaisy games. Novaselinever made a good point.
In Mafia of Unfortunate Events Spacedaisy fell behind for real life issues, but made a concentrated effort when she was around, and gave a long explanation of why she wasn't around. She was civilian here.
In Fiddler on the Roof Mafia, Spacedaisy was her, and she did specificallyrequest to be lynched. This was in an Endgame scenario where Spacedaisy was the only mafia left, but the pressure on her had been building, and supatown Mac was already ready to lynch her.
This game aligns more with Spacedaisy from Fiddler on the Roof. The exception here is that the pressure wasn't there. Spacedaisy's response to nova was much less provoked. Nova only asked if she had caught up on the game thread, no one (that I recall) was pushing for Spacedaisy's lynch.
Watch out for this one when I flip. His early reasoning against me was bad and he doubled down on it now.
Also good luck, I don't think my civ and baddie meta are that different. My involvement is entirely based upon circumstances and how far behind I fall. I'm not bad. So this flip will be fun. Frankly I don't mind being lynched, I really am not helping. But I love knowing you all can't read me.
I would give nova a pass because he misinterpreted my post as daring him to vote me. When it was really me trying to say I have no desire to hide behind non-activity. If someone legitimately suspects me, my absence should not keep them from voting me.
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm
The part about MP that bothers me most is how he voted nova for bandwagoning on Marmot's case without reading the actual thread
I took my vote off when it was apparent I misunderstood the chain of events. From what I could tell, it looked like Nova quoted what Marmot was saying and was bandwagoning. I apologize for misinterpreting.
Don't get on me for not reading the thread. I'm doing what I can with the time I have. Otherwise I'll just fuck off and asked to be replaced.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm
This is how townies lose games. This is zombie lynching. It's just aggravating.
I think it's also alarming as fuck that dunya parked her vote on this as well. I'd like to see what the deal was there. ISOing her next.
There were 4 votes on dunya early in the day without any discussion. They then disappeared without any discussion. Granted I have felt good with her in the time since then, but I feel like the action around her this phase has been odd, for lack of a better word.
How confident would you say that you are that daisy is town?
the situations in which SD gave up are not equivalent. Fiddler she was the last mafia, if SD is mafia here then she has 2 more teammates left, relying on her
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm
This is how townies lose games. This is zombie lynching. It's just aggravating.
I think it's also alarming as fuck that dunya parked her vote on this as well. I'd like to see what the deal was there. ISOing her next.
There were 4 votes on dunya early in the day without any discussion. They then disappeared without any discussion. Granted I have felt good with her in the time since then, but I feel like the action around her this phase has been odd, for lack of a better word.
How confident would you say that you are that daisy is town?
That does sound quite odd. I'd like to generate meaningful discussion about her either way.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:04 pm
the situations in which SD gave up are not equivalent. Fiddler she was the last mafia, if SD is mafia here then she has 2 more teammates left, relying on her
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm
The part about MP that bothers me most is how he voted nova for bandwagoning on Marmot's case without reading the actual thread
I took my vote off when it was apparent I misunderstood the chain of events. From what I could tell, it looked like Nova quoted what Marmot was saying and was bandwagoning. I apologize for misinterpreting.
Don't get on me for not reading the thread. I'm doing what I can with the time I have. Otherwise I'll just fuck off and asked to be replaced.
But how can you misunderstand a chain of events that you haven't actually read is my point
(And again I don't care that you hadn't read the thread, I care that you didn't act like you hadn't read the thread)
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm
The part about MP that bothers me most is how he voted nova for bandwagoning on Marmot's case without reading the actual thread
I took my vote off when it was apparent I misunderstood the chain of events. From what I could tell, it looked like Nova quoted what Marmot was saying and was bandwagoning. I apologize for misinterpreting.
Don't get on me for not reading the thread. I'm doing what I can with the time I have. Otherwise I'll just fuck off and asked to be replaced.
But how can you misunderstand a chain of events that you haven't actually read is my point
(And again I don't care that you hadn't read the thread, I care that you didn't act like you hadn't read the thread)
I started reading from right above where I joined the thread, which is where Marmot quoted his thoughts on Daisy.
Are you trying to gain an understanding of my alignment via this conversation? Because if you are, I don't understand where you're going with this.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:08 pm
@M Plus 7 if time and the poll are not a factor, who would you vote for?
Being removed from the game mentally the way I have the last couple of cycles, I can't say I'd have the most informed vote or opinion, but probably Luna -- hence my current vote.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:04 pm
the situations in which SD gave up are not equivalent. Fiddler she was the last mafia, if SD is mafia here then she has 2 more teammates left, relying on her
What if they are bussing her for street cred?
who is they?
the thought is that spacedaisy can't catch up so she is using her potential corpse to make her team's remnants look good in comparison?
Choutas wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:24 pm
So daisy has 22 posts and she is the prime candidate?
Somebody explained, link me the case or something I don't see it.
I tagged her to ask if she has caught up yet, since it's been a few day that she's been working on that. Her reaction was bad and she was inviting me to lynch her if I read her as bad. It was over dramatic and there was no pressure or previous interaction for her to do that.
I played a game with her before and she did something similar as a baddie. She was pressured and voted herself while advocating her lynch.
Explain. Both of the underlined statements. I don't believe you.
It wasn't a genuine a reaction. It was over-dramatic and there were no pression whatsoever on her. I simply asked if she had caught up, and she could have answered honestly. She was taunting me to vote of her, when I hadn't expressed no intention of doing that.
Fiddler on the Roof Mafia. Last day phase, she was pressured and she had a similar reaction. She said to people to vote for her and that she's 100% for her lynch. She even voted herself. She flipped bad.
You are reading a dramatic tone into my post that isn't there nova. I was't being dramatic, like daring someone to vote or being aggressive even. I knew there was just no way I was catching up, but I am also not going to be a player who knows I am sucking badly at staying engaged and expect that is a good excuse for people not to vote for me. That was what I was saying. And when I flip it will become clear you don't know how to read me. Which is cool for me, because it means you'll have to keep guessing.
Linki [mention]Kylemii[/mention] It is not uncommon for me to invite people to lynch me if I think discussion about me is overshadowing the game and I need to be flipped to get something going. And it has happened plenty of times. What I do not do, is manipulate with emotional outbursts or hide behind non activity. But I wasn;t quitting or asking to be lynched. I was saying no one should avoid voting me because I have been low activity, if they legitimately suspect me.
Also, in a somewhat relevant and somewhat not-game-relevant topic, I'm joining Sloonei in is #downwithketchup2018 thing. It's nonsense that someone has to be fully caught up on all of the events of a game to be able to participate. People can still engage in the game without having full context; full context becomes apparent through correction and ISOs. I came in here and gave my hot takes to the best of my ability even if my opinions were not fully informed. That's the way the game should be played if someone realistically doesn't have the time to invest in catching up.
fuck it. [VOTE:
lunalee] aubergine
MP's passionate defense of spacedaisy has inspired me. I don't wanna lynch her. I think I'm the only one who doesn't see Colin's day 1 vote as easy distancing so maybe it's time I considered that I'm wrong about that.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
Also, in a somewhat relevant and somewhat not-game-relevant topic, I'm joining Sloonei in is #downwithketchup2018 thing. It's nonsense that someone has to be fully caught up on all of the events of a game to be able to participate. People can still engage in the game without having full context; full context becomes apparent through correction and ISOs. I came in here and gave my hot takes to the best of my ability even if my opinions were not fully informed. That's the way the game should be played if someone realistically doesn't have the time to invest in catching up.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:12 pm
fuck it. [VOTE:
lunalee] aubergine
MP's passionate defense of spacedaisy has inspired me. I don't wanna lynch her. I think I'm the only one who doesn't see Colin's day 1 vote as easy distancing so maybe it's time I considered that I'm wrong about that.
I still think the general cases on Luna and LC were pretty solid, even if we unfortunately got a miss with LC.
Certainly there are better reasons to lynch Luna than Daisy. That I can say with utmost confidence.
I agree with MPs read on Daisy. I think this is a bad lynch.
And TH I’ll argue what I want to argue. Anyone who says ties are bad I don’t trust. Choutas’ mechanics arguments in this game have been consistently anti-town.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
Also, in a somewhat relevant and somewhat not-game-relevant topic, I'm joining Sloonei in is #downwithketchup2018 thing. It's nonsense that someone has to be fully caught up on all of the events of a game to be able to participate. People can still engage in the game without having full context; full context becomes apparent through correction and ISOs. I came in here and gave my hot takes to the best of my ability even if my opinions were not fully informed. That's the way the game should be played if someone realistically doesn't have the time to invest in catching up.
Well frankly I agree with your premise and am on the record as such... but at the same time you strolled in here and started barking and if you had read the thread maybe you'd be making completely different posts. That's my point.
Golden wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:14 pm
I agree with MPs read on Daisy. I think this is a bad lynch.
And TH I’ll argue what I want to argue. Anyone who says ties are bad I don’t trust. Choutas’ mechanics arguments in this game have been consistently anti-town.
I don't really have an opinion on Choutas's mechanics arguments, but his tone reads pretty genuine. I suppose I'm not sure how much I should rely on that, but it's a difficult ISO to interpret without relying on tone.
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 pm
Also, in a somewhat relevant and somewhat not-game-relevant topic, I'm joining Sloonei in is #downwithketchup2018 thing. It's nonsense that someone has to be fully caught up on all of the events of a game to be able to participate. People can still engage in the game without having full context; full context becomes apparent through correction and ISOs. I came in here and gave my hot takes to the best of my ability even if my opinions were not fully informed. That's the way the game should be played if someone realistically doesn't have the time to invest in catching up.
This is not really a good representation of my argument but we can hash that out later
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:04 pm
the situations in which SD gave up are not equivalent. Fiddler she was the last mafia, if SD is mafia here then she has 2 more teammates left, relying on her
What if they are bussing her for street cred?
who is they?
the thought is that spacedaisy can't catch up so she is using her potential corpse to make her team's remnants look good in comparison?
They is the hypothetical persians who are daisy's teammates. I am playing the devil's advocate here. An inactive baddie might offer themself as sacrifice to make their partners look good.
I don't know if they'd do it in the way that daisy has though.