Assassination Classroom [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

Good morning - Epi why the vote for Kyle?

No reason.

Actually fuck it let's lynch him.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is INH copping criticism but not Dom? What has the latter done or not done that the former has?

Dom has the advantage of meta. It's atpyical for him to do a lot. I have them both in the POE pool though.

Does INH have a scum meta of not posting?

I wouldn't say so. He was one of few relatively active mafia members in the GOC. I don't attribute his absence to alignment in this game.

[MacDougall]

Why is INH copping criticism but not Dom? What has the latter done or not done that the former has?

Dom has the advantage of meta. It's atpyical for him to do a lot. I have them both in the POE pool though.

Does INH have a scum meta of not posting?

I wouldn't say so. He was one of few relatively active mafia members in the GOC. I don't attribute his absence to alignment in this game.

Ok so why is he consistently being mentioned as bad?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Good morning - Epi why the vote for Kyle?

No reason.

Actually fuck it let's lynch him.

Please assess

and if necessary, critique

[Epignosis]

A tough guy I see. Big tough Epi and his big muscles.

I've got one big muscle. That's about it.

Right forearm, I imagine.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is INH copping criticism but not Dom? What has the latter done or not done that the former has?

Dom has the advantage of meta. It's atpyical for him to do a lot. I have them both in the POE pool though.

Does INH have a scum meta of not posting?

I wouldn't say so. He was one of few relatively active mafia members in the GOC. I don't attribute his absence to alignment in this game.

Ok so why is he consistently being mentioned as bad?

The impression I am getting is "why not".

It's not a lynch I am thrilled about right now. It doesn't smell right.

[juliets]

Why is INH copping criticism but not Dom? What has the latter done or not done that the former has?

Dom has the advantage of meta. It's atpyical for him to do a lot. I have them both in the POE pool though.

Does INH have a scum meta of not posting?

I wouldn't say so. He was one of few relatively active mafia members in the GOC. I don't attribute his absence to alignment in this game.

I have to disagree or I am misremembering. Early game he was absent for longish periods of time. Later his posting picked up but I am comparing his early game to this one. That said, I'm not entirely convinced my vote will remain here.

[Epignosis]

Epignosis
4
31%


Voters: Marmot, wolbre04, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Why is INH copping criticism but not Dom? What has the latter done or not done that the former has?

Dom has the advantage of meta. It's atpyical for him to do a lot. I have them both in the POE pool though.

Does INH have a scum meta of not posting?

I wouldn't say so. He was one of few relatively active mafia members in the GOC. I don't attribute his absence to alignment in this game.

I have to disagree or I am misremembering. Early game he was absent for longish periods of time. Later his posting picked up but I am comparing his early game to this one. That said, I'm not entirely convinced my vote will remain here.

He finished the GOC just shy of 150 combined posts between the starter thread and the main thread. He wasn't crazy active, but he existed -- more than I can say for some.

[Epignosis]

I still don't really feel like the civilians are losing this game right now. I mean, technically by the numbers that can be claimed. Sure. However, both of the lynches, while errant, were on players who would have been very difficult to remove from any POE pool. If you're going to be wrong, that's the kind of wrong you need to be. We have to climb out of a numbers hole, but things could be much worse. Civilians win after Day 1+2 mislynches all the time.

How do they do when it's 1+2+3?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I still don't really feel like the civilians are losing this game right now. I mean, technically by the numbers that can be claimed. Sure. However, both of the lynches, while errant, were on players who would have been very difficult to remove from any POE pool. If you're going to be wrong, that's the kind of wrong you need to be. We have to climb out of a numbers hole, but things could be much worse. Civilians win after Day 1+2 mislynches all the time.

How do they do when it's 1+2+3?

I rarely experience such ineptitude, so I can't say.

[Epignosis]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

[novaselinenever]

No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".

I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

About your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.

Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?

Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?

[Epignosis]

Ok so INH has 8 of 16 posts that are about Twin Peaks. He then sheeps Epi's vote for me and votes lap in the Hot Potato. Then he doesn't vote at all in the Avito lynch. This is not a good look but I need to think through whether the Genius is interfering with his play this game.

People keep saying this, but it was I who told INH I would vote wherever he did. That I ended up voting first is neither here nor there.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?

Please assess

and if necessary, critique

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, why is INH a civilian?

I'd rather not say, but I think I'm improving at figuring out INH whereas before I was atrocious at it. I don't want to reveal my reasoning and gum up the works, if you can dig.

This would be a good time to expand on this if your perspective hasn't changed.

I am much less confident than I was previously. If people want to vote for INH, I have no objection at this stage.

[juliets]

@novaselinenever how are you feeling about Sprityo and DDL today and why? I am feeling pretty good about them both after reading through sprityo's iso. DDL seems to be engaged in helping the town, at least from my perspective.

Well, this was easier than I thought. Only two pages to catch up on.

I'll be voting here, [VOTE: Avito] aubergine.

I could also go down with a Spirito or DDL's lynch, if that is ever happening.

I haven't seen anything from Spirityo, while catching up, that changed my mind on him. I'm still not feeling good about him.

DDL does seem to be engaged in helping Town but that is something a baddie DDL can easily reproduce. So I'm not completely sold. I liked some of his posts today though.

What made you feel good about Spirityo ?

I liked his early non-vote of Jack as I also didn't see why people were voting him. I will say I didn't like his reaction to me asking him about Dizzy's "catch" as he was somewhat aggressive. All in all though I came away with the gut feel that he was good.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis, why is INH a civilian?

I'd rather not say, but I think I'm improving at figuring out INH whereas before I was atrocious at it. I don't want to reveal my reasoning and gum up the works, if you can dig.

This would be a good time to expand on this if your perspective hasn't changed.

I am much less confident than I was previously. If people want to vote for INH, I have no objection at this stage.

What inspired the previous confidence?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I guess I’ll go ahead and [VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

I tend to give Epi some leeway for bs cases, head butting and general grumpiness/laziness but I expect something to come of it eventually.

I like Jimmy's rainbow (save Juliets, who I’m not sure why people are voting for) and the Epi case but I can’t shake a bad feeling about him. Driving me up the wall over here. Waiting for the shoe to drop. Just not sure what kinda shoe it is.

Linki: I’ll read those Nova beefs in a bit. Nova is in one ear out the other for me.

This post is horrendous Jack.

I am so so sorry.

[juliets]

Ok so INH has 8 of 16 posts that are about Twin Peaks. He then sheeps Epi's vote for me and votes lap in the Hot Potato. Then he doesn't vote at all in the Avito lynch. This is not a good look but I need to think through whether the Genius is interfering with his play this game.

People keep saying this, but it was I who told INH I would vote wherever he did. That I ended up voting first is neither here nor there.

Ok, I was remembering it as a mutual thing but maybe not.

[Epignosis]

JJJ, sorry if I've overlooked or forgotten but what is the reason for your Epi read? Is it his votes and lack of explanation?

He's playing a clown game.

His suspicion of me in Night 1 looked like it could have been formed in a "Epignosis Attacks JJJ" shaped cookie cutter, and he employed exaggerated language I don't associate with him, like this:

This guy is trying to move shit on to me, someone he HAS to know can't be on all the time because of work, and make a kill elsewhere. This is trash.

And some more caps lock

His vote for Marmot on Day 2 was a waste, and it recalls lapluie's own vote for him on Day 1 which he similarly disparaged. If it'd have been placed very late when the Avito wagon was already in control it'd be a different issue, but there was over an hour left and the wagons were close between Avito and nova. Weak.

Today I have very little idea what his reads are or where he's headed. He assumed I was silenced after three hours of quiet for some reason. His posts seem to be pouring at random from some unseen source.

Ok I get this, plus your additional reason. Hopefully he will be on after school to address these issues. If he's bad though I don't understand why he would take you on since you're not easily proven a baddie.

I'm not addressing anything.

Besides, Pennywise is playing the clown game, not me.

[Epignosis]

Ok so

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

until he at least explains what's up with that random-ass Kyle vote.

You voting me for voting Kyle makes your vote the product of random-assness.

[Epignosis]

I could also see a vote for Epi if he doesn't satisfactorily address the issues Jay has brought up and explain his Kyle vote.

Oops. Shit.

[MacDougall]

Good morning - Epi why the vote for Kyle?

No reason.

Actually fuck it let's lynch him.

Please assess

and if necessary, critique

It's a very Jay case and I don't have your unique perspective.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's a very Jay case and I don't have your unique perspective.

What do you see in your soul when you look at Epi's posts?

[Epignosis]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

[Epignosis]

No, you haven't. I'm not really buying that tbh tbf. You threw my name around before you did your analysis of the Avito's wagon. From there, your ISOs of the votes were concluded with " mild suspicions ", " not a good look", "talk to me scotty", that didn't amount to much. You even followed one of them up with questions about me to Scotty. Your prodding of Juliets doesn't align with that of a lynch target. I don't buy your whole "I suspect you but I don't want to put a 3rd vote on you. I'll give you room".

I don't care what you buy. I seem to be the most present force in the thread right now, and that means I have the responsibility of facilitating a productive day phase to the best of my ability. juliets had been made well-aware of the suspicions against her, and I wanted her to focus on her own hunting instead of responding continually to that stuff.

Talk to me about Epignosis.

About your concerns,

How is the highlighted line bogus ? And, how did you come to the conclusion that Avito wouldn't respond to that ultimatum ?

I said throwing votes early D1 is something he often does, especially votes on me. But as Town, he wouldn't end his day there and would start getting active and starting to contribute. Him not following through and using our history to park his vote on me without justification is the reason I started pushing him.

Avito gave me no reason in his brief appearance here to believe that he was interested in playing the way someone else told him to play. Do you think he was likely to be responsive to that ultimatum?

Not entirely responsive. Likely to react to it but not positively. Start contributing to prove me wrong and build a case against me, if he believed I was bad.

I really don't know what to think of Epignosis. I liked him post-D1 and his whole feud with you. I was expecting Epignosis to be voting for you today, as he mentioned it last night and invited others to do so today. I was confused when he didn't, and I've been confused ever since with his meaningless posts and voting pattern. With that being said though, I read him as Town though.

What about you?

One day someone will figure me out, and then I'll have to do things differently.

[juliets]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.

[Epignosis]

Epignosis, why is INH a civilian?

I'd rather not say, but I think I'm improving at figuring out INH whereas before I was atrocious at it. I don't want to reveal my reasoning and gum up the works, if you can dig.

This would be a good time to expand on this if your perspective hasn't changed.

I am much less confident than I was previously. If people want to vote for INH, I have no objection at this stage.

What inspired the previous confidence?

Again, I'd rather not say.

[juliets]

Oh wait, you were saying you really didn't care about the voter Avito, not that you don't care about the game. My bad.

[juliets]

EBWOP: vote for Avito

[MacDougall]

It's a very Jay case and I don't have your unique perspective.

What do you see in your soul when you look at Epi's posts?

Someone who doesn't care about finding bad guys and is happy to troll Jay.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It's a very Jay case and I don't have your unique perspective.

What do you see in your soul when you look at Epi's posts?

Someone who doesn't care about finding bad guys and is happy to troll Jay.

Well we agree on that much.

[MacDougall]

If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

Do you mean night kill me or lynch me?

[MacDougall]

General question to all.

If you could kill one player right now who would it be?

For me it would be Epi.

If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

Do you mean night kill me or lynch me?

Night kill.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Night kill.

He doesn't night kill me. It's his preference. He's stated it many times, but here's an example from the Lounge:

I would agree that people don't fit cleanly into any single "position" (not even the examples I provided). Everything is muddy. I wouldn't know how to label myself on that team. The dynamic also has to adapt as a town team shrinks, because people gon' die -- that relates to Epi's thought. I think the core of my thought is that civilian teams tend to be best served when there are multiple different approaches happening together that can be integrated into a full team effort.

I know how to label you.

One scary motherfucker.

But keep him around for fun.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

General question to all.

If you could kill one player right now who would it be?

For me it would be Epi.

Right now, I would agree.

[Epignosis]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

[MacDougall]

Night kill.

He doesn't night kill me. It's his preference. He's stated it many times, but here's an example from the Lounge:

I would agree that people don't fit cleanly into any single "position" (not even the examples I provided). Everything is muddy. I wouldn't know how to label myself on that team. The dynamic also has to adapt as a town team shrinks, because people gon' die -- that relates to Epi's thought. I think the core of my thought is that civilian teams tend to be best served when there are multiple different approaches happening together that can be integrated into a full team effort.

I know how to label you.

One scary motherfucker.

But keep him around for fun.

And would you kill him?

[Epignosis]

If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

I tend to keep JJJ alive to toy with him.

[Epignosis]

If Epi is bad and Jay is good would Epi push to kill Jay. Same question in reverse.

I tend to keep JJJ alive to toy with him.

Night kill.

He doesn't night kill me. It's his preference. He's stated it many times, but here's an example from the Lounge:

I would agree that people don't fit cleanly into any single "position" (not even the examples I provided). Everything is muddy. I wouldn't know how to label myself on that team. The dynamic also has to adapt as a town team shrinks, because people gon' die -- that relates to Epi's thought. I think the core of my thought is that civilian teams tend to be best served when there are multiple different approaches happening together that can be integrated into a full team effort.

I know how to label you.

One scary motherfucker.

But keep him around for fun.

Holy shit, same smiley and everything. I am predictable.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

These are all things I've considered. I'm also not sure you would kill a mislynch sandwich like sig. However, in the absence of any visible effort that does promote winning, I struggle to give you the benefit of the doubt.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

And would you kill him?

Yes. I don't share that particular strategic/competitive motivation. As I see it, when I am bad I already have it harder than nearly anyone else -- I don't need to make it even worse. However, I would avoid eliminating him super early just because that's weak.

[juliets]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

Yeah Epi if you're bad I sure as shit don't understand your motivation and as Jay pointed out I don't see you killing sig (and I think you would be a big enough voice in BTS that the kill would be someone you agreed with). I'm not inclined to vote for you today I don't think.

[Epignosis]

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

These are all things I've considered. I'm also not sure you would kill a mislynch sandwich like sig. However, in the absence of any visible effort that does promote winning, I struggle to give you the benefit of the doubt.

No visible effort? That stings.

[Epignosis]

If DDL's vote tracking is accurate, depending upon when Scotty voted, Epi's vote for Marmot rendered the novaselinenever and Avito wagons either tied or separated by one vote.

Epi's vote sucks.

My vote helped ensure that you got the lynch you wanted.

If that was your desire, you'd have voted for Avito yourself. Meaningless.

I really didn't care either way.

Epi I just don't understand your attitude. You'd have us believe you voted for Kyle for no reason, you won't address Jay's points, and now you say you don't really care. Do you not like this game? It feels like you are daring us to lynch you.

Also, happy Teachers Appreciation Day.

First off, look at the current poll. If you are a civilian, the mafia have you voting for me to ensure self-preservation no matter what I say, and me voting for you for the same reason. Shit poll.

Second, if you don't understand my attitude, can you identify the motivation behind it if I'm bad? If so, what is that motivation?

Third, outside of JJJ (who isn't even voting for me right now), the only reason people "suspect" me is because I'm not explaining something or I'm acting "weird" (whatever that means, since it's never defined). That's shit. If I'm bad, what's my master plan? Vote Kyle and give no explanation? How's that working out for me?

Fourth, I didn't care who got lynched between nova or Avito. It isn't that I don't about winning.

Finally, thank you. I got 5% off at Food Lion today.

Yeah Epi if you're bad I sure as shit don't understand your motivation and as Jay pointed out I don't see you killing sig (and I think you would be a big enough voice in BTS that the kill would be someone you agreed with). I'm not inclined to vote for you today I don't think.

It's true that I would not kill sig, but not because of any strategic reason. The poor bastard hardly ever gets to play long.

[novaselinenever]

General question to all.

If you could kill one player right now who would it be?

For me it would be Epi.

Spirityo.

[Epignosis]

I am Lawful Evil, after all.