Firefly, The Game [GAME OVER]

[DharmaHelper]

Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.

A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique

But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.

Yes...I think you're catching on.

Did you change the way you play? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen you call living teammates in thread in past games.

I must have. Apparently I throw half my team under the bus now.

Not as cool as me, since I put my whole team on the poll and got them all lynched.

[Epignosis]

Epi you say you are not interested in knowing who is mafia with who, but your entire defense is based on you not being mafia with player A, B and C.

A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique

But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.

Yes...I think you're catching on.

Did you change the way you play? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen you call living teammates in thread in past games.

I must have. Apparently I throw half my team under the bus now.

Not as cool as me, since I put my whole team on the poll and got them all lynched.

Enrique
7
35%


Voters: Epignosis, nutella, MacDougall, Dragon D. Luffy, Golden, Turnip Head, juliets

SokothQultuq
7
39%


Voters: novaselinenever, Lunalee, speedchuck, Turnip Head, nutella, DFaraday, Kylemii

Stellar record there. Badass.

[Epignosis]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

You know the silver lining of this game is that when it ends someone's ego is getting shattered. I'm just waiting to see whose.

[Epignosis]

Well, anyway, here's the neat thing.

DharmaHelper isn't bad. If everyone agrees that Absentnamehere is truthful, then he isn't bad. I'm not bad because have fun.

That means there's a 67% chance of lynching mafia among DDL, Golden, and Turnip Head.

[Epignosis]

Done got quiet up in here.

[Lunalee]

*spooky creaks echo in the silence*

[Epignosis]

*spooky creaks echo in the silence*

Probably juliets and Glorf.

[Epignosis]

Here's a thought:

Golden has gone on and on about how he can't post a lot if he's bad.

Never mind that in the last Long Rock game, he had well over 400 posts and was bad.

Consider how much easier it is to post if you are going back and forth with a teammate.

Not so hard to rack up posts then, is it?

[Golden]

Here's a thought:

Golden has gone on and on about how he can't post a lot if he's bad.

Never mind that in the last Long Rock game, he had well over 400 posts and was bad.

Consider how much easier it is to post if you are going back and forth with a teammate.

Not so hard to rack up posts then, is it?

You’re talking about world reborn?

I was town for most of the game.

[Epignosis]

Here's a thought:

Golden has gone on and on about how he can't post a lot if he's bad.

Never mind that in the last Long Rock game, he had well over 400 posts and was bad.

Consider how much easier it is to post if you are going back and forth with a teammate.

Not so hard to rack up posts then, is it?

You’re talking about world reborn?

I was town for most of the game.

So what you're saying is...

...you were genuine...

...even though you were bad.

[Golden]

[quote=Golden post_id=482335 time=<a href="tel:1535586233">1535586233</a> user_id=382]
[quote=Epignosis post_id=482334 time=<a href="tel:1535586106">1535586106</a> user_id=153]
Here's a thought:

Golden has gone on and on about how he can't post a lot if he's bad.

Never mind that in the last Long Rock game, he had well over 400 posts and was bad.

Consider how much easier it is to post if you are going back and forth with a teammate.

Not so hard to rack up posts then, is it?

You’re talking about world reborn?

I was town for most of the game.
[/quote]

So what you're saying is...

...you were genuine...

...even though you were bad.


[/quote]

No, what I’m saying is I was town for most of the game. That’s why my post count was high. I got recruited on, like, day 7-10 if I recall correctly, somewhere around there.

Keep looking though. I’m glad you’re actually paying attention to this.

[Epignosis]

I don't really give a toss about your post count.

[Epignosis]

The mafia are two of DDL, Golden, and Turnip Head.

That's all there is to it.

Fight.

[Golden]

I bet if you were to track my posts per phase in that game there’d be a substantial shift after my recruitment. But ain’t no one got time for that shit.

[Epignosis]

The way I see it, mylo means there’s two baddies and there’s only four possible teams

DDL/TH
DDL/Epi
TH/Epi
Epi/DH

My plan is to turn to each of those in turn and see if any seem particularly likely or unlikely.

I very much like epis points.

That's 75% of your universe shot to shit.

[Epignosis]

I bet if you were to track my posts per phase in that game there’d be a substantial shift after my recruitment. But ain’t no one got time for that shit.

It's "nobody."

Not "no one."

Jesus, good thing you need a plane to get to America.

[Turnip Head]

Then it's ddl and golden

[Turnip Head]

Still wouldn't mind lynching Townlock Helper

[Epignosis]

Still wouldn't mind lynching Townlock Helper

See, shit like that ain't helpful.

[DharmaHelper]

Still wouldn't mind lynching Townlock Helper

"I wanna lynch a civ"

Very cool and good thing for a mafia to say.

[Epignosis]

I'm moving my vote to DDL, who likes my points, but still thinks I'm bad.

[DharmaHelper]

Spoiler: show

A = Sokoth
B = DFaraday
C = Enrique

But you are okay with hunting D without caring on what that means about E.

Yes...I think you're catching on.

Did you change the way you play? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen you call living teammates in thread in past games.

I must have. Apparently I throw half my team under the bus now.

Not as cool as me, since I put my whole team on the poll and got them all lynched.

Enrique
7
35%


Voters: Epignosis, nutella, MacDougall, Dragon D. Luffy, Golden, Turnip Head, juliets

SokothQultuq
7
39%


Voters: novaselinenever, Lunalee, speedchuck, Turnip Head, nutella, DFaraday, Kylemii

Stellar record there. Badass.

Fun thing about voting for people, they gotta be on the poll first. You're welcome.

[Epignosis]

Everybody's on the poll now, so resting on your "laurels" isn't really an option at this point.

[DharmaHelper]

Everybody's on the poll now, so resting on your "laurels" isn't really an option at this point.

I agree. So lets lynch TH.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm moving my vote to DDL, who likes my points, but still thinks I'm bad.

Funny how you claim to read every post yet apparently ignored the whole page where I analyse the probability of each person being bad.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

As I have already explained, while your posts make sense and show why you are not likely to be bad, there is evidence that every player in this game is less likely to be bad than you are.

[Epignosis]

I'm moving my vote to DDL, who likes my points, but still thinks I'm bad.

Funny how you claim to read every post yet apparently ignored the whole page where I analyse the probability of each person being bad.

I haven't ignored anything. I've read everything. I read where you liked my points but still have your vote on me. Get your vote off me, and then we talk.

[Epignosis]

Maybe we are having trouble understanding each other due to language differences.

I'll try again.

As I have already explained, while your posts make sense and show why you are not likely to be bad, there is evidence that every player in this game is less likely to be bad than you are.

Besteira.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Alright

Convince me that TH and Golden are bad together.

Otherwise we are in a circular argument, because I obviously can't convince you that you are bad.

[Epignosis]

Alright

Convince me that TH and Golden are bad together.

Otherwise we are in a circular argument, because I obviously can't convince you that you are bad.

I shouldn't have to convince you of shit other than my own innocence, which I have successfully done.

If you are a civilian, you should go, "Well damn! Epignosis is a civilian, which means DH has to be a civilian, and INH isn't lying, and I'm a civilian, it has to be TH and Golden."

But you ain't doing that, is ya?

[Epignosis]

Why do I have to convince you that TH and Golden are bad TOGETHER?

[DharmaHelper]

Win or lose I think we all agree I'm the best.

[Epignosis]

Win or lose I think we all agree I'm the best.

palhaço

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm trying to see different sides here, but it seems the only people other than Golden and TH who cares about this question (whether they are bad together) is me.

Civ DH, if he exists, is betting everything on his gut read of TH being right and teammates be danmed. Civ Epi cares more about arguing why he is civ himself and omgus'ing the first person who disagrees than finding who the scum is. And civ TH refuses to even consider the possibility that he may have recruited baddies at some point of the game.

Someone needs to help me win this.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Alright

Convince me that TH and Golden are bad together.

Otherwise we are in a circular argument, because I obviously can't convince you that you are bad.

I shouldn't have to convince you of shit other than my own innocence.

BULLSHIT

If you can't convince people of things you might as well not sign up for mafia games.

You are here to lynch scum, not to protect your own ass. And you can't lynch scum without votes from other people.

So start getting suspects and convincing other people that they are bad, or I can't believe you are a civilian.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why do I have to convince you that TH and Golden are bad TOGETHER?

Because if I'm a civ, and you and DH are civs, they have to be bad together.

And that means we are in a bizarro world where the two have been pretending to hate each other for one month.

I need to be convinced of that because I can't see it. It's tinfoil.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Win or lose I think we all agree I'm the best.

palhaço

[Epignosis]

I'm trying to see different sides here, but it seems the only people other than Golden and TH who cares about this question (whether they are bad together) is me.

Civ DH, if he exists, is betting everything on his gut read of TH being right and teammates be danmed. Civ Epi cares more about arguing why he is civ himself and omgus'ing the first person who disagrees than finding who the scum is. And civ TH refuses to even consider the possibility that he may have recruited baddies at some point of the game.

Someone needs to help me win this.

Demonstrating that I am a civilian is paramount.

If I am a civilian, then I did not lie about DH, and if you believe INH is not mafia, then that leaves three people who can be.

If you are among that three, and you are a civilian, then congratulations, you have it sorted.

[Epignosis]

Alright

Convince me that TH and Golden are bad together.

Otherwise we are in a circular argument, because I obviously can't convince you that you are bad.

I shouldn't have to convince you of shit other than my own innocence.

BULLSHIT

If you can't convince people of things you might as well not sign up for mafia games.

You are here to lynch scum, not to protect your own ass. And you can't lynch scum without votes from other people.

So start getting suspects and convincing other people that they are bad, or I can't believe you are a civilian.

See above, math guy.

[DharmaHelper]

I'm trying to see different sides here, but it seems the only people other than Golden and TH who cares about this question (whether they are bad together) is me.

Civ DH, if he exists, is betting everything on his gut read of TH being right and teammates be danmed. Civ Epi cares more about arguing why he is civ himself and omgus'ing the first person who disagrees than finding who the scum is. And civ TH refuses to even consider the possibility that he may have recruited baddies at some point of the game.

Someone needs to help me win this.

To be fair I'm pretty sure you're his teammate and also your SQ interactions look like you're SQ's teammate.

[Epignosis]

One of TH or Golden is bad. No question.

[Epignosis]

I love it when mafia fucks up on a poor Night kill.

[Epignosis]

I'm glad my workload is down to three people. I'll be deeply examining DDL, Golden, and TH, and will make my choice after that.

[Epignosis]

Enrique giving me bad vibes.

This was Day 0. He didn't elaborate, so I can't do anything with it.

I feel like a lot of the ongoing discussions are dead-ends. GTH I don't think DDL is bad, he's just being really clumsy lol. Mac is laying pretty low, but we did just start and I don't think his activity so far is indicative of alignment. Glorfindel is all over sig for what looks like nothing to me but... I remember Glorf's first game, and I believe the talk about his meta. sig has been fine.

Got a funny feeling about speedchuck but he hasn't been around a lot and I don't want to contribute to a possible pile-up. Leaving a placeholder vote on Colin for now for no good reason.

Enrique bad

Yeah.

It's all a bunch of salad.

Ok I'm in

[VOTE: Enrique] aubergine

There is something forced and salad-y about his post.

I'm ok with a lynch on Mac rn but it also feels like bait. Mac is making it too easy.

Enrique is actually trying not to be lynched and I don't think he's actually succeeding.

-> I think DDL looks bad but I'm not sure
-> I also think he's acting suspicious

This is pathetic.

I haven't done my intended big post yet as far as "everyone I suspect and why" but in my catching up just on the posts I've missed since last night this one caught my eye. You trippin boss.

This is a slow day, with people who normally post a lot being happy not to say much, with a bunch of them accusing me softly but not actually going through with it.

It sounds like a civ lynch in the making. Not necessarily of me, but of some low resiatance wagon that baddies manage to latch on.

I want to prevent that shit. I want drama. I want scumhunting. I want arguing. This day 1 is too cool for my tastes.

You want to prevent mafia from latching on to a low resistance civ lynch but


"You're in" on the Enrique lynch because "something" about his posts felt......like salad.

Somebody come get your mans.

I'm in because the last two times he came here and made a series of posts I hated them both.

I'm not gonna write a verbose reasoning of that because I don't wanna. It would probably be bullshit if I did anyway, because I'm doing this on instinct.

If Enrique flips bad lynch DH next.

Pausing here.

DDL had a brief go at Enrique, but gave it up. He tied DH to Enrique, saying "If Enrique flips bad, lynch DH next."

On the surface, this makes DDL look bad. I don't care about looks. Digging deeper...

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm trying to see different sides here, but it seems the only people other than Golden and TH who cares about this question (whether they are bad together) is me.

Civ DH, if he exists, is betting everything on his gut read of TH being right and teammates be danmed. Civ Epi cares more about arguing why he is civ himself and omgus'ing the first person who disagrees than finding who the scum is. And civ TH refuses to even consider the possibility that he may have recruited baddies at some point of the game.

Someone needs to help me win this.

Demonstrating that I am a civilian is paramount.

If I am a civilian, then I did not lie about DH, and if you believe INH is not mafia, then that leaves three people who can be.

If you are among that three, and you are a civilian, then congratulations, you have it sorted.

Except that you can't prove that you are a civilian, just show it's not likely. And in that case, it doesn't matter if you show that you are not likely to be teammates with DF/Enrique if you also want me to accept without thinking that Golden is teammates with TH.

You want me to accept that you would never bus those people the way I say you did, but you want me to take for granted that Golden and TH spent a much bigger effort doing it than you did. And you want me to accept that without you even having to argue for it.

Because for you, boasting about how you never listen to others is more important than winning the game. What matters the most is that you never consider any logic other than yours, that you never use any method other than yours, and that you never argue beyond the point that you think it's enough to convince yourself of your own vote. You convince others of why you are not bad, but who cares about why other people should vote with you. That's their problem, they should find a way to convince themselves to follow you, not you. That fact that you helped lynch other baddies means you are great and that should make others want to follow you.

So you are going to lynch me, and you will lose the game, and you will go to bed happy that even though you are a loser, you are a stubborn loser.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

There, I think I have somewhat returned the verbal abuse you gave to nutella last night.

[Epignosis]

I'm trying to see different sides here, but it seems the only people other than Golden and TH who cares about this question (whether they are bad together) is me.

Civ DH, if he exists, is betting everything on his gut read of TH being right and teammates be danmed. Civ Epi cares more about arguing why he is civ himself and omgus'ing the first person who disagrees than finding who the scum is. And civ TH refuses to even consider the possibility that he may have recruited baddies at some point of the game.

Someone needs to help me win this.

Demonstrating that I am a civilian is paramount.

If I am a civilian, then I did not lie about DH, and if you believe INH is not mafia, then that leaves three people who can be.

If you are among that three, and you are a civilian, then congratulations, you have it sorted.

Except that you can't prove that you are a civilian, just show it's not likely. And in that case, it doesn't matter if you show that you are not likely to be teammates with DF/Enrique if you also want me to accept without thinking that Golden is teammates with TH.

You want me to accept that you would never bus those people the way I say you did, but you want me to take for granted that Golden and TH spent a much bigger effort doing it than you did. And you want me to accept that without you even having to argue for it.

Because for you, boasting about how you never listen to others is more important than winning the game. What matters the most is that you never consider any logic other than yours, that you never use any method other than yours, and that you never argue beyond the point that you think it's enough to convince yourself of your own vote. You convince others of why you are not bad, but who cares about why other people should vote with you. That's their problem, they should find a way to convince themselves to follow you, not you. That fact that you helped lynch other baddies means you are great and that should make others want to follow you.

So you are going to lynch me, and you will lose the game, and you will go to bed happy that even though you are a loser, you are a stubborn loser.

What the fuck does what Golden and TH did have anything to do with how I operate when I am mafia?

I don't throw my teammates under the bus. I did it once with you ages ago on purpose and I made sure you were on board. I threw Scotty under the bus when he gave me no choice because he fucked up badly in the thread.

Outside of that, in over five years of mafia, what leads you to believe that I would throw not one, but TWO of my teammates under the bus, especially when neither of them were catching much shit at the time?

It's beyond my understanding that anybody could believe this, and yet here you are, the only one of DDL, Golden, or TH arguing this bullshit with me.

Yes, my logic is the only logic I listen to, and my method is the only one I use, because your logic and method is merda.

[Epignosis]

There, I think I have somewhat returned the verbal abuse you gave to nutella last night.

I didn't abuse nutella.

[DharmaHelper]

See this bad boy?


*slaps hood*

This bad boy can fit so many votes for TH in there.