The Wire Mafia [END]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

Sarcastic interpretation = "I suspect you because you're trying too hard to act like you don't care."
Not-Sarcastic interpretation = "You must not be scum."

50-50 has no meaning. The answer I received here was a full paragraph of nothing, no opinion, no substance. Like I'm listening to a presidential speech.

The best reads.

[Jackofhearts2005]

basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either

Nutella is scum. Gottem.

[Jackofhearts2005]

loljack

can I rely on your reads here for similar reasons?

It took me randing scum to correctly read Michelle.

[Sloonei]

basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either so idk why that's sus

I feel like there is more to speedchuck’s read than that. He seems to be beefing with the particular language of rej’s post, arguing that it lacks direction rather than simply being non-committal. Is there anything else?

[nutella]

basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either so idk why that's sus

I feel like there is more to speedchuck’s read than that. He seems to be beefing with the particular language of rej’s post, arguing that it lacks direction rather than simply being non-committal. Is there anything else?

But like what's wrong with lacking direction? Are players not allowed to ramble/post stream of consciousness thoughts?

[nutella]

But re: is there anything else, I basically haven't liked any of speed's posts this game. So *gestures vaguely at iso"

[Sloonei]

basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either so idk why that's sus

I feel like there is more to speedchuck’s read than that. He seems to be beefing with the particular language of rej’s post, arguing that it lacks direction rather than simply being non-committal. Is there anything else?

But like what's wrong with lacking direction? Are players not allowed to ramble/post stream of consciousness thoughts?

Rambling = working through ideas publicly and verbally to move toward a conclusion.
Lacking direction = vomiting words for the sake of saying something

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with anything speedchuck is saying about Rej. I’m just saying I don’t think you’re characterizing his read accurately.

[nutella]

Ok

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

basically he's calling rej scum for not having a coherent stance on drago. I don't have a coherent stance on drago either so idk why that's sus

I feel like there is more to speedchuck’s read than that. He seems to be beefing with the particular language of rej’s post, arguing that it lacks direction rather than simply being non-committal. Is there anything else?

But like what's wrong with lacking direction? Are players not allowed to ramble/post stream of consciousness thoughts?

Please no

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Nanook has got to play with wilgy and/or marmot someday

I miss marmot

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

tbh I am 50/50, it's true that Dragos overall behaviour in mafia changed, from game to game he gives less a fuck, that is reasonable if you busy yourself with other things, but still a mafia drago wouldn't make himself such an easy target I feel, tho town drago tends to do help town in any kind of form

Those two fifties have completely opposite meanings

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

Sarcastic interpretation = "I suspect you because you're trying too hard to act like you don't care."
Not-Sarcastic interpretation = "You must not be scum."

50-50 has no meaning. The answer I received here was a full paragraph of nothing, no opinion, no substance. Like I'm listening to a presidential speech.

Rej's posts are like horoscope, they are meant to appeal to anyone who reads them.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why did y'all move off of Rej and to Dom? We had him right there. Dunya can be added onto the scum pile too.

We did? I thought you didn't care.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

nutella's reads on basically everything are the opposite of mine.

Not sure what this means.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I think the main question with Rej is whether he is really undecided or if he's just playing at both sides to look like he's doing something.

It's off-putting because he doesn't just change his mind, he does it 2 or 3 times in the same paragraph. Doesn't look much like a normal stream of thought.

No matter if he votes to lynch or to spare Drago, you'll find a reasoning in his post when you dig it.

[dunya]

football's on, so dunya is preoccupied watching it with people. but yea, i'm here. what's cookin' folks

[dunya]

meh, i would have believed that if you hadn't answered the question yourself in your post.

what

you ask "is that sarcasm"

and you follow it up with "because it's coming across as sarcasm to me"

why are you telling him what you're interpreting it as if you're "waiting for his answer"?

i kinda call bs on that.

[dunya]

Except for this question it's very dom-style and silly

Well in that case, there's not really much for me to do. Could explain my read on Rej or Mac maybe. But...nah.

wow you really give zero fucks this game, you must be a civ, you would never fuck up your mafia brethern like that? playing this jaded?

did anything else in this DP caught your attention? I haven't seen many reads about Mac. He just seems to carry some energy with him, energy I haven't seen in much of his D0/D1 plays.

Is the first half of this post a sarcasm? Because it seems like one to me.

and if it is, what does that tell you?

and if it isn't, what does that tell you?

well, it's intentionally silly cos i thought his (rhetorical?) question was silly and fake and i wanted to get another silly and fake answer from him.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nutella's reads on basically everything are the opposite of mine.

Not sure what this means.

Usually nothing but go off anyways

[Dragomir]

Why did y'all move off of Rej and to Dom? We had him right there. Dunya can be added onto the scum pile too.

We did? I thought you didn't care.

Why wouldn't I care? I think he's scum.

[dunya]

Oh gross, not doing that then. Don't want to vote with Dunya.

Gross? Why??

The same reasons I'd vote for DDL are truer of dunya than they are DDL, so. Just doesn't work for me now.

so you think my posts are "empty" and "safe"? o.O wow. don't think anyone has ever described me in mafia with those adjectives before. i am equal measures humbled and disgusted.

[dunya]

I kinda suspect Dunya but Jack and Dunya fighting from the starting gun is played out.

you little bitch

[Jackofhearts2005]

I kinda suspect Dunya but Jack and Dunya fighting from the starting gun is played out.

you little bitch

[dunya]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

[boo]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I didn't imply JJJ was in the BTSC with Colin.

[dunya]

I think the main question with Rej is whether he is really undecided or if he's just playing at both sides to look like he's doing something.

It's off-putting because he doesn't just change his mind, he does it 2 or 3 times in the same paragraph. Doesn't look much like a normal stream of thought.

No matter if he votes to lynch or to spare Drago, you'll find a reasoning in his post when you dig it.

tbh, the wishy washy 50/50 doesn't remind me of the town rej i saw in the one game i played with him so meta is not very reliable here. but correct me if i'm wrong. he was stubborn and annoying for my team because he would make plans and be vocal about them and get everyone on the same page in a loud way.

[boo]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I also don't think that this post really proves he caught up a whole lot and qualifies as giving his 2 cents. It feels like a TlLDR of a TLDR:

Also rip Mac voting for me, nothing new there. He can't read me worth a damn.

Straight for that card ay.

Anywho so far Creature and Rej are top town reads. I think Nutella is also town. I'd like to see fellow towns towning a bit harder.

I think we're also looking at wolfjay lol. I know he says he's busy but I can't help but feel if he was town he'd have used the posts he has made for more townie purposes. More FPS to see what happens less "please hold for assistance.

Jack worries me. Speedchuck also.

But Dragomir doing the ol' "hello fellow townies" thing can take some scrutiny for now.

Right on all counts imo. Although nutella/speed argument feels contrived right now

[dunya]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I didn't imply JJJ was in the BTSC with Colin.

alright, and i've been in BTSC with colin. no one checks in there and asks others what to post. everyone does that unprompted, regardless of how little time they have. and what a peculiar thing to be prompted to respond to in BTSC. why does that seem more likely to you than colin actually reading the first player's post in the game?

[Jackofhearts2005]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

Oh?

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Oh gross, not doing that then. Don't want to vote with Dunya.

Gross? Why??

The same reasons I'd vote for DDL are truer of dunya than they are DDL, so. Just doesn't work for me now.

so you think my posts are "empty" and "safe"? o.O wow. don't think anyone has ever described me in mafia with those adjectives before. i am equal measures humbled and disgusted.

Well you wanted to take it easy didn't you.

Now you know how it feels to play like me.

[dunya]

I also don't think that this post really proves he caught up a whole lot and qualifies as giving his 2 cents. It feels like a TlLDR of a TLDR:

we are all short on time. i don't hold brevity as alignment indicative for colin especially and i can't be convinced otherwise.

i'm not saying colin is town. but he's not bad for those reasons.

[Jackofhearts2005]

When you check wolfchat after the game and find it's just Jay talking about podcasts and stuff, you're gonna be really surprised.

[dunya]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

Oh?

he's too polite to the game of mafia imo. but hey, i've just known the guy for like 9 years so don't take my word for it.

[dunya]

Oh gross, not doing that then. Don't want to vote with Dunya.

Gross? Why??

The same reasons I'd vote for DDL are truer of dunya than they are DDL, so. Just doesn't work for me now.

so you think my posts are "empty" and "safe"? o.O wow. don't think anyone has ever described me in mafia with those adjectives before. i am equal measures humbled and disgusted.

Well you wanted to take it easy didn't you.

Now you know how it feels to play like me.

i don't think your posts are every empty

anyway, i promised no mafia for second half of the game so my mafia time is over. see ya'll later.

[dunya]

end of day 3.04am my time?

well, i'm never going to be around end of days and nights.

[nutella]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I don't specifically care for the implication that Jay was complaining in btsc. Just the general idea that they could be teammates and Colin was hyperaware that Jay wasn't up to living up to his usual meta. Like, that much was implied in Jay's post, but Colin ascribed particular importance to it in bringing up Jay for the hypothetical vig question.

[nutella]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I didn't imply JJJ was in the BTSC with Colin.

I... I'm pretty sure you did.

[Long Con]

That was my take as well. I thought it was spicy.

[boo]

And Colin doesn't strike me as someone who pays exceptionally close attention to the thread as a whole, so that he references that (and even answers the question) seems like it has a decent possibility of being prompted by BTSC.

I'm gonna [VOTE: ColinIsCool] aubergine.

that's a very broad and bold statement to make about colin, and one i don't like tbh. he read enough to give his 2 cents on the nutella/speedchuck episode, and jay's post was literally the first one which illustrates his lack of interest in the game. not far fetched that colin saw it and saw the tone at all.

reaching case, especially to imply that colin came in and blurted tmi from jay who would be complaining in scum chat (jay doesn't do that).

if i didn't have nutella in light green, on my very nice rainbow READS, i would vote her for liking this poop.

I didn't imply JJJ was in the BTSC with Colin.

I... I'm pretty sure you did.

wasn't my intent. It's a possibility, but my thinking was only that someone in in BTSC brought up JJJ's post. So I think it's more likely it was on Colin's mind from that being discussed, rather then being from the single post JJJ mentioned it. I hadn't put thought into who mentioned it, that'd be a bit premature until I know if I'm right about Colin or not.

[boo]

But Dragomir doing the ol' "hello fellow townies" thing can take some scrutiny for now.

Huh? I wasn't even remotely doing that. You a straight liar.

So Dragomir is right that he didn't at all do the "hello fellow townies" thing that Mac accused him of and based a vote on him vote.

Mac actually came in once D1 had started, immediately called Sig a wolf in his first post, voted Dragomir in his second post (for asking why people suspected Sig?), and made this as his third post:

Also rip Mac voting for me, nothing new there. He can't read me worth a damn.

Straight for that card ay.

Anywho so far Creature and Rej are top town reads. I think Nutella is also town. I'd like to see fellow towns towning a bit harder.

I think we're also looking at wolfjay lol. I know he says he's busy but I can't help but feel if he was town he'd have used the posts he has made for more townie purposes. More FPS to see what happens less "please hold for assistance.

Jack worries me. Speedchuck also.

But Dragomir doing the ol' "hello fellow townies" thing can take some scrutiny for now.

Then he made more posts predicting general doom and gloom for the town because of a lack of participation, asked a few broad questions but doesn't really followup on anything that comes from answers, and not a whole lot else.

One thing I did find interesting was his prediction of his own lynch:

The timing of Speedchuck's vote and push on me off the back of LC calling my suspicion of him bullshit feels intentional by Speedchuck. LC will probably vote for me. Then Dunya. Then I will have a wagon on me and be focused on defending myself and get irritated and won't be focused enough to be effective at towning.

Moral to the story. Don't do that. I'd rather fast forward through that please.

Just seems like an appeal to emotion, before things have really even started?

[MacDougall]

Fake news

[boo]

Speedchuck still has his vote on Mac, but last stated wanting to vote for Rej. I assume the general rule of thumb is poll takes precedence over a stated vote that wasn't actually cast?

[MacDougall]

When I say hello fellow towns I mean the post where he questions the town suspecting someone in a what is intended to be an innocuous way. Not literally.

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck still has his vote on Mac, but last stated wanting to vote for Rej. I assume the general rule of thumb is poll takes precedence over a stated vote that wasn't actually cast?

You better not be angling to try to get me lynched boo. You won't like me when I'm all huffy and irritated.

[MacDougall]

Dunya seems to be a wolf here. I also think Nanook is so that vote would be distancing in that case. I ain't caught up so I can't speak specifically to that suffice to say Dunya's off and Nanook is scum because he's very sarcastically trying to copy his town meta.

[dunya]

Speedchuck still has his vote on Mac, but last stated wanting to vote for Rej. I assume the general rule of thumb is poll takes precedence over a stated vote that wasn't actually cast?

You better not be angling to try to get me lynched boo. You won't like me when I'm all huffy and irritated.

intimidation won't get you anywhere. we see through your fluff, mr. cuddly.

[dunya]

i'm off, i'm off for sure. i'm dunya v.3. v.1 was rym, v.2 was the last 2 years around various websites, and v.3 is from hereon out when i play one game every year lol. deal with it.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Dunya seems to be a wolf here. I also think Nanook is so that vote would be distancing in that case. I ain't caught up so I can't speak specifically to that suffice to say Dunya's off and Nanook is scum because he's very sarcastically trying to copy his town meta.

I don’t bother trying to copy town meta when I’m a wolf

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also my vote on dun dun duh cant be distancing and you know that, she isn’t in our scum chat!

[Long Con]

He's making a lot of sense. Can wolves make that much sense?