I think that's true of a lot of players, but maybe not LC. I believe I've seen him react this way to suspicion as town, especially early in games.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:24 pmBeing frustrated is understandable. I find it odd though that the frustration is centered upon me -- the guy he wants to lynch. Why should that be deflating? If LC is innocent and thinks I am a No-Uing sunuvagun, then deflation isn't the response I'd anticipate -- more like louder versions of "you're bad".
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I'm in. [VOTE: Mac] aubergineNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:27 pm One more for the Mac express, now boarding

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That's not to say I'm reading LC's recent posts as town though. I really don't know what to make of them.
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This is gonna suck when mac flips town and I just saved both mafia LC and Epi or some shit like that
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Some portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk
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Thanks, but I am leaving my vote where it is. That last bit, that is totally how LC talks. I think this is nitpiky to the extreme. I am not saying I find him a town read, but I don't find him more suspicious than I do Epi, or Michelle for that matter.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:23 pmHere are my beefs
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Would it have worked better if I gave straight reasons why your case was not good?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pmSome portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk
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Also I thought Mac believed his crappy case on Epi, I suspected Epi for my own reasons.
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After a cursory look over your posts, I felt you were narrowly focused in your suspicion of Michelle. I didn't have a clear idea of where you stood otherwise.
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Wtf this poll what happened yall mac is still asleep
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No, why would I want you to do that? You asked a question; I answered it. I just think you should consider them as you would consider anyone else's reads in the formation of your own.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pmThanks, but I am leaving my vote where it is. That last bit, that is totally how LC talks. I think this is nitpiky to the extreme. I am not saying I find him a town read, but I don't find him more suspicious than I do Epi, or Michelle for that matter.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:23 pmHere are my beefs
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In theory yes. In practice, well I just changed my voteLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:30 pmWould it have worked better if I gave straight reasons why your case was not good?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pmSome portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk
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We lynched sleeping mafioso Mac in Steely Dan on Day 1.

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If anyone thinks I'm not town, I'd like to hear it now, because I've not played in over a year and a half and I believe I'm town as fuck right now.
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But sarcasm has that delivery tone that enhances your understanding of my true opinion of the posts. Smiling and pointing out the errors honestly just doesn't have the same impact.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:31 pmIn theory yes. In practice, well I just changed my voteLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:30 pmWould it have worked better if I gave straight reasons why your case was not good?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pmSome portion of my brain tells me a mafioso LC doesn't choose that sarcastic course of defense given that it never convinces JJJ of anything. idfk
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This game ought to be won on civilians clearing themselves. There're only two meanies.
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Also I've wanted Mac dead longer than anyone. I was the first one to vote him.
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You're all right. What is there in Day 1 that you couldn't have done as a baddie?

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You have 2 votes, maybe i saved mafia you by accident too!nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:33 pmNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:29 pm This is gonna suck when mac flips town and I just saved both mafia LC and Epi or some shit like that![]()
Though tbh I would’ve actively tried to save you today
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But bad guys are snarky too Long Con! They're snarky too don't you see!
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After a cursory look at your rainbow list, I find it crap.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:31 pmAfter a cursory look over your posts, I felt you were narrowly focused in your suspicion of Michelle. I didn't have a clear idea of where you stood otherwise.
Read more, please.
Why is this unproductive? Laying out an opinion before the lynch post goes up lets people know where you are re the lynch to come. I am honestly perplexed by this, telling someone how to post. Have things changed that much since I last played?
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Gonna annoy y'all for a moment and pat myself on the back for existing in this game for approximately 110 minutes and reaching #2 in the post count.
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This might be the first time I’ve fought for and actually gotten my way on TS, pretty excited for this town flip
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You tell me.
But if I had to point to one thing, I don't think I can quite fake the exact progression of reads changes I do as town when I'm scum. It's very hard to fake complete re-assessment like that, and I did that with Michelle.
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You say that like it’s a good thingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 pm Gonna annoy y'all for a moment and pat myself on the back for existing in this game for approximately 110 minutes and reaching #2 in the post count.
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Well that's not very nice.

I have provided reasons for all of those reads. Please state your disagreements and we can go from there.
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WE'RE IN A QUARANTINE!NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:37 pmYou say that like it’s a good thingJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 pm Gonna annoy y'all for a moment and pat myself on the back for existing in this game for approximately 110 minutes and reaching #2 in the post count.

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After a cursory look at your rainbow list, I find it crap.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:31 pmAfter a cursory look over your posts, I felt you were narrowly focused in your suspicion of Michelle. I didn't have a clear idea of where you stood otherwise.
Read more, please.
Why is this unproductive? Laying out an opinion before the lynch post goes up lets people know where you are re the lynch to come. I am honestly perplexed by this, telling someone how to post. Have things changed that much since I last played?
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We have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.
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Ugh, that sucks.
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At least I'm still #1.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 pm Gonna annoy y'all for a moment and pat myself on the back for existing in this game for approximately 110 minutes and reaching #2 in the post count.

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Grant Balfour had been having trouble with the strike zone all inning. Or, in his head, the umpire was having trouble with it. He'd already walked the leadoff man on what felt like a good pitch. Now he was down 2-1 in the count, and his latest pitch had been perfectly located on the black.
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"Crikey!" he muttered to himself, wondering aloud where the pitch might have been. But his musings were overheard by the homeplate ump, who did not take kindly to criticism. Without a moment's hesitation, Grant was ejected. In stunned disbelief, he pleaded his case, but he knew there was no use. When eventually he retreated to the dugout, the ump stood staring long in his direction, as if daring anyone else to raise their voice. No one was willing to test him. Not yet, at least.
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I think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
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Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
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But you woudn't be faking the reassessment, would you? If you were bad and you knew she wasn't? It woud be easier to change your mind that to push the fake suspicion initially. I think you are downplaying your skills in this post as well.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:37 pmYou tell me.
But if I had to point to one thing, I don't think I can quite fake the exact progression of reads changes I do as town when I'm scum. It's very hard to fake complete re-assessment like that, and I did that with Michelle.
I don't necessarily suspect you, but I don't not suspect you either. But you downplaying how good you actuallyare at things like this ... I never saw you as a falsely modest person, and we leave it there for now.
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Well, this requires re-evaluation.
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That's (the bolded/underlined) the strangest thing you've ever said to me.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:43 pmBut you woudn't be faking the reassessment, would you? If you were bad and you knew she wasn't? It woud be easier to change your mind that to push the fake suspicion initially. I think you are downplaying your skills in this post as well.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:37 pmYou tell me.
But if I had to point to one thing, I don't think I can quite fake the exact progression of reads changes I do as town when I'm scum. It's very hard to fake complete re-assessment like that, and I did that with Michelle.
I don't necessarily suspect you, but I don't not suspect you either. But you downplaying how good you actuallyare at things like this ... I never saw you as a falsely modest person, and we leave it there for now.
Linki @MP, OK, it didn;t read that way to me, but I could be overreading it becasue I used to be so good at reading you, and I am trying to find my way to that again.
linki, Oh for Christs sake.
I may come across like an arrogant fuckface sometimes in game, but I'm absolutely that modest of my own abilities.
I appreciate the conversation either way, so no worries from my end.
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Re: Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 1]
Why? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
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Re: Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [NIGHT 1]
Yeah, it sucks, but I agree.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:43 pm Poop. Later Mac.
We're okay. From a POE perspective, I still feel decent about the current sitch.
I don't know why nutella would be so transparent about it, but I can't help but interpret posts like her defense of her as if she has TMI.
I'm still trying to reconcile this though with the fact that she shaded me so I'm emotionally invested, as well as my previously stated strong town read. I'm at odds.
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Re: Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 1]
You didn't wait until the flip happened, and it also seems closed-minded to me as if you're only evaluating our final impact (the vote) as opposed to the totality of posts.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:45 pmWhy? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.