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[nutella]

It's not *only* that there were a couple other role/flavor related things he said that contributed. But yeah I could be wrong I guess.

[mention]juliets[/mention] I said what the point was. Please read my posts.

[speedchuck]

Never lynching:
Master Radishes

Explain

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook also has the most reason to kill 112 probably. I mean there's a whole team making the decision but he's one of the people that might benefit from it.

Tbh I probably just kill you, idk why 112 is a bigger threat to scumNanook than you?

[nutella]

2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM

Grats on the baby fam but u bad

I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.

What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?

Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wouldn't mind killing Nanook tbh.

He feels A LITTLE more scumhunting than last game, but the idea of letting Nanook fool me two consecutive times seriously irks me.

I already know the man can fake emotion like a top tier mafia player. I'm not giving him a civ read for cheap.

“I’m SRing him cause I don’t want to look silly” is a legitimately terrible way to play.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM

Grats on the baby fam but u bad

I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.

What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?

Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.

I almost always assume that someone is town when talking to them. Otherwise why would I bother talking to them.

[nutella]

Never lynching:
Master Radishes

Explain

I locked him town D1 due to mindmelds and his thought processes/approach to solving. That doesn't sound very substantial when I put it that way but it is extremely substantial to me (maybe I'm forgetting a detail that sealed it for me, I'll look back in a bit). Then there's the role claim today which seals it even more imo (some may disagree with that but it's how I see it)

[juliets]

I just read back through [mention]Long Con[/mention] because of 112's read on him. I don't see anything that said "scum" and he ended up voting Nanook with 112 and sig (and nutella but we don't know her alignment at this point). I believe him when he said he didn't know Nanook was voting for him and that was a town look. I would feel a little better if he would answer my question about his gut read of Nanook. Maybe today.

lots of linki

[nutella]

Wouldn't mind killing Nanook tbh.

He feels A LITTLE more scumhunting than last game, but the idea of letting Nanook fool me two consecutive times seriously irks me.

I already know the man can fake emotion like a top tier mafia player. I'm not giving him a civ read for cheap.

“I’m SRing him cause I don’t want to look silly” is a legitimately terrible way to play.

Is it a terrible way to play, or is he scum??

Your only criticisms of anyone are that they are wrongtown. Do you *suspect* anyone or no??

[nutella]

2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM

Grats on the baby fam but u bad

I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.

What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?

Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.

I almost always assume that someone is town when talking to them. Otherwise why would I bother talking to them.

Nah this ain't it chief.

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wouldn't mind killing Nanook tbh.

He feels A LITTLE more scumhunting than last game, but the idea of letting Nanook fool me two consecutive times seriously irks me.

I already know the man can fake emotion like a top tier mafia player. I'm not giving him a civ read for cheap.

“I’m SRing him cause I don’t want to look silly” is a legitimately terrible way to play.

Is it a terrible way to play, or is he scum??

Your only criticisms of anyone are that they are wrongtown. Do you *suspect* anyone or no??

Terrible is alignment neutral. Like, it’s shitty regardless of his alignment.

And as I said before, I almost always talk to people as if they’re town. Otherwise why bother talking to them?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I really hope you’re mafia cause this is pure trash

[nutella]

juliets' post drew to my attention the fact that the two flipped townies were both on the Nanook wagon (and the other two were myself and LC who I believe is town so imo it was a pure wagon). That makes me wonder even more if the sig/mr wagons were pushed by scum to save nanook. Fits with my Hyena case as well.

[nutella]

Wtf do you mean "otherwise why bother" literally what the fuck game are you playing where that's a thing

[nutella]

I get your mafia philosophy isn't always the same as other people's bit wtf is that

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like regardless of my alignment, I’m going to talk to people as if they’re town. Otherwise what’s the point of talking to them at all. SRing me for that is almost as bad as “nanook can’t SR anyone!” which is also demonstrably, patently false.

So yeah, do better, regardless of your alignment.

[juliets]

Juliets and DDL have similar problems. They haven't stood out or made any impact. I don't like that.

The more I think about it the worse I feel about juliets. She has shown the bare bones of her meta without any of the meat. Her most content-ful post was a lengthy justification of her sig vote after sig had flipped. Not great.

Is this what you are talking about? I can't think of a game where I've made an impact Day 1. I acknowledge that you feel bad about me because of that. My justification for my sig vote after he flipped was because speedchuck requested we ALL talk about why we voted for the person we did. I don't know why you would see that as a bad thing.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Wtf do you mean "otherwise why bother" literally what the fuck game are you playing where that's a thing

Why would I talk to mafia nutella? Am I going to convince them my case is so good they should in fact vote themselves?

[nutella]

Like regardless of my alignment, I’m going to talk to people as if they’re town. Otherwise what’s the point of talking to them at all. SRing me for that is almost as bad as “nanook can’t SR anyone!” which is also demonstrably, patently false.

So yeah, do better, regardless of your alignment.

You've literally said the same two sentences three times now. I don't understand them. Why the fuck would you not engage people you suspect? You're doing it right now, no? Or not, because you don't actually suspect me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like Jesus fuck, there’s no point talking to someone as if they’re mafia. You’re not gonna convince mafia you’re right, and if they’re town you just make the game shitty and unfun for them.

[nutella]

"what's the point of talking to someone you think is mafia" is the bizarrest take I've ever seen in mafia lmfao

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like regardless of my alignment, I’m going to talk to people as if they’re town. Otherwise what’s the point of talking to them at all. SRing me for that is almost as bad as “nanook can’t SR anyone!” which is also demonstrably, patently false.

So yeah, do better, regardless of your alignment.

You've literally said the same two sentences three times now. I don't understand them. Why the fuck would you not engage people you suspect? You're doing it right now, no? Or not, because you don't actually suspect me.

Way to twist my words. I didn’t say I don’t talk to people I suspect, I said I don’t talk to people as if they’re mafia.. There’s no point in it!

[nutella]

Juliets and DDL have similar problems. They haven't stood out or made any impact. I don't like that.

The more I think about it the worse I feel about juliets. She has shown the bare bones of her meta without any of the meat. Her most content-ful post was a lengthy justification of her sig vote after sig had flipped. Not great.

Is this what you are talking about? I can't think of a game where I've made an impact Day 1. I acknowledge that you feel bad about me because of that. My justification for my sig vote after he flipped was because speedchuck requested we ALL talk about why we voted for the person we did. I don't know why you would see that as a bad thing.

It was an overly elaborate justification, and the only content you've produced. I get that it was answering a question, but one would think you could produce content that thorough about living players at some point.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’s only bizarre if you completely ignore what I’m actually saying and twist it entirely differently

I say this with all seriousness, actually read what I’m saying, until then fuck off.

And I genuinely hope you’re Mafia cause jfc if you’re doing this as town.

[nutella]

Like Jesus fuck, there’s no point talking to someone as if they’re mafia. You’re not gonna convince mafia you’re right, and if they’re town you just make the game shitty and unfun for them.

Interactions in thread are not only there for the direct participants. I interact with people I suspect to show other people why they're suspicious. This is like 101 level thinking. Come on

[nutella]

It’s only bizarre if you completely ignore what I’m actually saying and twist it entirely differently

I say this with all seriousness, actually read what I’m saying, until then fuck off.

And I genuinely hope you’re Mafia cause jfc if you’re doing this as town.

Yes I get what you said. But I talk to people as if they're mafia all the time and it produces valuable thread content.

[nutella]

What is so bad about me doing this as town?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m stepping away now, I don’t have the capacity to deal with this crap while I’m exhausted.

Nutella, you know I love you and I’m sorry for cursing you out, please do better regardless of your alignment cause this is pretty frustrating.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’s only bizarre if you completely ignore what I’m actually saying and twist it entirely differently

I say this with all seriousness, actually read what I’m saying, until then fuck off.

And I genuinely hope you’re Mafia cause jfc if you’re doing this as town.

Yes I get what you said. But I talk to people as if they're mafia all the time and it produces valuable thread content.

Good for you. I disagree on the value and rarely do it.

[nutella]

Wtf do you mean do better though. I am absolutely baffled by your perspective and I think this discussion may have actually helped me see a world where you're town so it wasn't all bad. And that's from a starting point where I was talking to you assuming you were scum, so that just proves my point.

[Jackofhearts2005]

2 of my 3 scumreads were wrong, you know what that means.

IM DUE BABAY, VOTE NUTELLA BYE SCUM

Grats on the baby fam but u bad

I read these two as w/w for the past two pages.

What a shock.

Remind me why you’re reading me wolf again, is it the same garbage reason you started with or you have found a new reason to tunnel?

Yikes

You obviously know speedchuck is town and are being aggressive without reason.

I almost always assume that someone is town when talking to them. Otherwise why would I bother talking to them.

[nutella]

I hope [mention]Sloonei[/mention] reads that exchange. I felt like I was channeling his spirit a bit.

[juliets]

Juliets and DDL have similar problems. They haven't stood out or made any impact. I don't like that.

The more I think about it the worse I feel about juliets. She has shown the bare bones of her meta without any of the meat. Her most content-ful post was a lengthy justification of her sig vote after sig had flipped. Not great.

Is this what you are talking about? I can't think of a game where I've made an impact Day 1. I acknowledge that you feel bad about me because of that. My justification for my sig vote after he flipped was because speedchuck requested we ALL talk about why we voted for the person we did. I don't know why you would see that as a bad thing.

It was an overly elaborate justification, and the only content you've produced. I get that it was answering a question, but one would think you could produce content that thorough about living players at some point.

An overly elaborate justification? He asked a question, I answered it to the best of my ability, call it what you like to try and justify your position. You're trying to take something I did that was good and make it bad. And I always produce content about living players at some point - the more people behave the more there is to analyze.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[nutella]

"something I did that was good"


sorry, I'm not convinced.

[juliets]

"something I did that was good"


sorry, I'm not convinced.

And I'm not convinced you don't know my game better than this so there we stand.

[nutella]

I know your game, and I think you usually do more by this point. You've been mostly just reactive, rather than asking lots of questions of people.

[nutella]

Do you suspect me? If so tell me more. Unless you subscribe to the Nanook school now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think you usually do more by this point.

-everyone about Juliets's game in every game she plays.

I have no clue how to read Juliets.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Juliets is >rand town

[Master Radishes]

Okay but seriously, how does one figure out when Juliets is scum?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I assume she doesn’t have the same radiant “look at me I’m town!” aura about her.

[nutella]

I assume she doesn’t have the same radiant “look at me I’m town!” aura about her.

And you think she has that here??

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I assume she doesn’t have the same radiant “look at me I’m town!” aura about her.

And you think she has that here??

Clearly, or I wouldn’t have said she’s >rand town.

[Sloonei]

I hope Sloonei reads that exchange. I felt like I was channeling his spirit a bit.

My work here is done then.

[Sloonei]

(For real, I probably shouldnt have said yes to this game. I'm trying to finish my thesis this week.)

[juliets]

I just read through Hyena who was another of 112's bad reads. One thing she says about him is his posts are short but usually contain more substance when he's town. I'll take a look at Inception in a while to see if that was true early on in the game, it's certainly true in this one. She also said she thought he picked up her comment that "Hyena is tricky" and was waiting to use it on him later. It seemed to me he had already used it by the time she said that to say she was bad as he pointed to how it was used in the champs WC game to pocket him (by 112's scum pattern Eva). So I'm not sure what her point was there.

Hyena made big statements about wanting to lynch 112, at one point even asking people to please join him to do it. I know this is WIFOM but it seems unlikely to me that his mafia team (if he is bad) would kill her given how strong his statements were about wanting to kill her in the Lynch.

lots of linki and it looks like some of it's about me - I will read after I post.

[juliets]

Do you suspect me? If so tell me more. Unless you subscribe to the Nanook school now.

I haven't read through your ISO and wouldn't suspect you just because you suspect me. You are wrong about me though.

[juliets]

[mention]nutella[/mention] talk to me about Hyena. His vote jumped around a lot during EOD but I chalked that up to different culture. I agree with 112 that his posts are short but so are Nanook's in every game I've played with him where he's been civ. What are you seeing that places him so low on your list?

[nutella]

Mostly his jump onto the MR wagon when he randomly decided to trust DDL for no reason. I have talked about this and pulled the quotes. I thought it was a really bad look, that whole string of posts where he turned around on DDL and followed him on MR without justification. It looked to me like potentially an attempt to save Nanook (after he had briefly had his vote on nanook but felt icky about it) but I think also looks bad independent of Nanook's alignment. Also I think he's a decent candidate to have killed 112.