Daisy is guess #1. I do not have a solid guess #2 at the moment. Ted is town, mac is town. I think myo is town. I'm not actively scum reading nanook and nutella, but I'm more hesitant to award them the same credit as I do Mac for yesterday's lynch. You look how you're supposed to look right now. soneji was the biggest consensus suspect during the day yesterday, but I didn't feel great about that case.
Of the players I haven't named yet, sig and motobot would be the two I'd remove from the lynch pool first, but that's not something I'm fully prepared to do. I think that leaves LC and jiwon.
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Seriously, I'm on board with Spacedaisy as the top suspect. I'm still resting my brain after the qualifier, so forgive me while I just follow Mactellanook's lead for the time being.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:05 pm
Seriously, I'm on board with Spacedaisy as the top suspect. I'm still resting my brain after the qualifier, so forgive me while I just follow Mactellanook's lead for the time being.
Advanced Mastery: Choose one of the following benefits each Night (but only once):
Gain 20% scrap for that Night
Gain 20% voting power the next Day
Hide in a nebula, taking yourself off the poll.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.
Are scrap votes worthwhile to analyze? Maybe not in this situation. But that's my two ways. Nanook voters, or the two off-the-Grand-Townclear-train voters. JJJ is the other Nanook voter. Is he bad?
Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
Clone Bay: Gain permanent BTSC with the pilot of one of the destroyed ships. (7 scrap)
This could become very useful, if we believe that the dead player might have had info.
Thibk the main thing about items is civs need to grab ones on their own that mafia will want. We want to concentrate any vote boosts away from them for instance and potentially the vote manipulations/blocking
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:18 pm
RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 pm
Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
That's a spicy idea hm. And yeah I'd assume any target-affecting abilities would affect that kill, that seems like a given
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.
Hacking: You may redirect your target's target to the target of your choice. (12 scrap)
Expensive mod. Would a Civ choose this? Maybe. It's a little like a self-protect from a specific person. I guess it gets more powerful the more Assumed Civs you have.
It could be used as a pseudo-role blocker to search for the killer? Redirect the person you are the most sus of back to themselves to see if the kill goes through (or if they kill themselves). Obviously depends on the OOO, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable assumption that the kill comes later.
Ah, wait no, nevermind. I misread the item description. I though it was a puppeting action, but it is one degree removed pupetting.That doesn't actually work then.
I don't follow?
'redirect your target’s target’
I’m assuming this means that if I target A, and A has an action that should be targeting B, that I then get to puppet B’s action to a third target of my choice. Which seems needlessly complex and room to create a chaos without gaining any meaningful info.
I had thought it was a simple puppet: I target A and get to give him a new target for his action in which case my original suggestion about puppeting someone to self-target stands.
I always get super confused about that type of ability but I'm not seeing the difference between what it is and what you thought it was. I'm probably reading what you said wrong idk
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:18 pm
RIP Nanook. What happens to his scrap? Maybe the people who voted Nanook for scrap are suspicious. Maybe baddies vote scrap for each other. Not when there's three Big Swinging Dicks in the room though. What was the final tally? I should look.
Bro didn't you vote for Nanook lol
oh wow i didnt realize that I know I'm not bad. I just thought it was a legitimate angle. If you think scrap votes are analysis-worthy.
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:27 pm
Someone bought Teleportation from the Store. It roleblocks. Someone's gonna be roleblocking each turn and knowing who isn't killing. This is good, even though they can't infodrop. Let's be aware of any funny feelings in that direction... ah the nebulous line of infodropping. Sometimes, one is just 100% sure of things and darned if I can't see why!
You've got a lot of nervous energy
Bring it, nutella.
nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 am
Oh wait no I see. No I think it is what you originally thought.
You make a player target who you want. That's the simplest way, I think, to say it.
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:20 pm
Are scrap votes worthwhile to analyze? Maybe not in this situation. But that's my two ways. Nanook voters, or the two off-the-Grand-Townclear-train voters. JJJ is the other Nanook voter. Is he bad?
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Best Townie, Maffies 4, 8 and 9 Best Scum, Maffies 3 Best Moderator, Maffies 8 and 9 Most Valuable Player, Maffies 7 and 9 Best Roleplay, Maffies 4 and 6 Spirit Award, Maffies 9 Hall of Fame inductee, Maffies 4
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Mafia Championship Finalist, 2015 and 2020 Best Town Player, 2020
Best Townie, Maffies 4, 8 and 9 Best Scum, Maffies 3 Best Moderator, Maffies 8 and 9 Most Valuable Player, Maffies 7 and 9 Best Roleplay, Maffies 4 and 6 Spirit Award, Maffies 9 Hall of Fame inductee, Maffies 4
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Mafia Championship Finalist, 2015 and 2020 Best Town Player, 2020
Best Townie, Maffies 4, 8 and 9 Best Scum, Maffies 3 Best Moderator, Maffies 8 and 9 Most Valuable Player, Maffies 7 and 9 Best Roleplay, Maffies 4 and 6 Spirit Award, Maffies 9 Hall of Fame inductee, Maffies 4
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Best Townie, Maffies 4, 8 and 9 Best Scum, Maffies 3 Best Moderator, Maffies 8 and 9 Most Valuable Player, Maffies 7 and 9 Best Roleplay, Maffies 4 and 6 Spirit Award, Maffies 9 Hall of Fame inductee, Maffies 4
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Jiwon B
LC G
Mac G
motobot G
Myo B
sig B
Sloonei G
Soneji B
Spacedaisy B
tedxtr G
Still not as sorted as I'd like, but it's an improvement.
We're at 9 vs. 2 vs. 1 I believe. If we don't give kill power to the independent (who knows), that leaves us with three mislynches available until a 3 vs. 2 LyLo. That means a correct POE of 5 would be necessary. Again the indy could screw with that, but whatever.
I have 5 Bs here. Consider that a tentative POE pool.
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JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am
Why votes have small aubergine after them?
It provides a way to quickly search for them within the thread if you CTRL+F the word "aubergine" (assuming you're not on mobile).
I mean who uses them? If you do that and search aubergine you will get like only 20% of the votes, it won't tell anything about game really, why would anyone use it?
Do we get to see who had most votes at end of night? Also I thought sloonei and soneji was same person until just before
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 5:14 am
I just asked myself for some gun to head reads:
Jiwon B
LC G
Mac G
motobot G
Myo B
sig B
Sloonei G
Soneji B
Spacedaisy B
tedxtr G
Still not as sorted as I'd like, but it's an improvement.
We're at 9 vs. 2 vs. 1 I believe. If we don't give kill power to the independent (who knows), that leaves us with three mislynches available until a 3 vs. 2 LyLo. That means a correct POE of 5 would be necessary. Again the indy could screw with that, but whatever.
I have 5 Bs here. Consider that a tentative POE pool.
Best Townie, Maffies 4, 8 and 9 Best Scum, Maffies 3 Best Moderator, Maffies 8 and 9 Most Valuable Player, Maffies 7 and 9 Best Roleplay, Maffies 4 and 6 Spirit Award, Maffies 9 Hall of Fame inductee, Maffies 4
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JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:59 am
Why votes have small aubergine after them?
It provides a way to quickly search for them within the thread if you CTRL+F the word "aubergine" (assuming you're not on mobile).
I mean who uses them? If you do that and search aubergine you will get like only 20% of the votes, it won't tell anything about game really, why would anyone use it?
Do we get to see who had most votes at end of night? Also I thought sloonei and soneji was same person until just before
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Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 pm
Good lord, four pages at the eod? I’m going with my gut based on my earlier reads. What’s the story with the LC wagon? Did I miss something or is it in these last four pages?