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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

girl, do your thing where mac knows whether or not you're town pls.
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm thing where mac knows whether or not you're town
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JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:14 pm
Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:49 pm Long con its not to late to pretend you were meming don't go down this road
Who is long con?
:workit: :workit: :workit:
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm It is possible there are multiple mafia teams and/or 3p i think, my role power is knowing when it is lylo or mylo. When i die the amount of scum alive is also revealed. Might as well claim that now I'm a pr that can probably die and not matter
Shouldn't your role power refer to KYLO?

Multiple scum teams would surprise me in an 11 player game.
weirdest slip of all time.

The fact that the power exists puts me on 3 scum
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm Given three scum, leetic not one of them
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:43 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:04 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
This is exactly my feelings on Leetic's appeals to "If I'm a wolf, who are my partners then, huh?"

Like I've said that as a townie....on day 4 after getting in fights with literally the entire playerlist. On D1, it doesn't mean much.

While I'm using a post, here's about where I'm at

Dunya (light green starts here)
Jiwon
Dusk
DS (yellow starts here)
LC
Mac
Nutella (orange starts here)
Leetic <- but Leetic is not scum with Epi or Nutella probly
Epi


I should be dark green btw, again, I've already lock cleared myself so it's strange to me no one has picked up on it yet
if you keep saying you’ve lock cleared yourself, aliens come down from space and rip you apart or something
hmmmmmmm alright mayyyyybe you can have a townread


but still lower than a lot of other ppl
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

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nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm It is possible there are multiple mafia teams and/or 3p i think, my role power is knowing when it is lylo or mylo. When i die the amount of scum alive is also revealed. Might as well claim that now I'm a pr that can probably die and not matter
Shouldn't your role power refer to KYLO?

Multiple scum teams would surprise me in an 11 player game.
weirdest slip of all time.

The fact that the power exists puts me on 3 scum
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm Given three scum, leetic not one of them
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:43 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:04 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
This is exactly my feelings on Leetic's appeals to "If I'm a wolf, who are my partners then, huh?"

Like I've said that as a townie....on day 4 after getting in fights with literally the entire playerlist. On D1, it doesn't mean much.

While I'm using a post, here's about where I'm at

Dunya (light green starts here)
Jiwon
Dusk
DS (yellow starts here)
LC
Mac
Nutella (orange starts here)
Leetic <- but Leetic is not scum with Epi or Nutella probly
Epi


I should be dark green btw, again, I've already lock cleared myself so it's strange to me no one has picked up on it yet
if you keep saying you’ve lock cleared yourself, aliens come down from space and rip you apart or something
hmmmmmmm alright mayyyyybe you can have a townread


but still lower than a lot of other ppl
I’ll take it.

I’m thinking Epi/Jack with a recruit.
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

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nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

girl, do your thing where mac knows whether or not you're town pls.
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm thing where mac knows whether or not you're town
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm where mac knows
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm mac mac mac mac
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

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LC vote someone else I'm town you scallywag
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:20 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm It is possible there are multiple mafia teams and/or 3p i think, my role power is knowing when it is lylo or mylo. When i die the amount of scum alive is also revealed. Might as well claim that now I'm a pr that can probably die and not matter
Shouldn't your role power refer to KYLO?

Multiple scum teams would surprise me in an 11 player game.
weirdest slip of all time.

The fact that the power exists puts me on 3 scum
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:35 pm Given three scum, leetic not one of them
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:43 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:04 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
This is exactly my feelings on Leetic's appeals to "If I'm a wolf, who are my partners then, huh?"

Like I've said that as a townie....on day 4 after getting in fights with literally the entire playerlist. On D1, it doesn't mean much.

While I'm using a post, here's about where I'm at

Dunya (light green starts here)
Jiwon
Dusk
DS (yellow starts here)
LC
Mac
Nutella (orange starts here)
Leetic <- but Leetic is not scum with Epi or Nutella probly
Epi


I should be dark green btw, again, I've already lock cleared myself so it's strange to me no one has picked up on it yet
if you keep saying you’ve lock cleared yourself, aliens come down from space and rip you apart or something
hmmmmmmm alright mayyyyybe you can have a townread


but still lower than a lot of other ppl
I’ll take it.

I’m thinking Epi/Jack with a recruit.
You think there's a recruit in the game? Why??
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Your power, mostly — the number of scum will be revealed upon death implies a changing number of scum. It just seems reasonableish. I haven’t heard the album in a while so I’m not sure if that works at all thematically.
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Also I only had two names for my scum team, but on further thought I’m not sure if Epi as scum comes out swinging but I’ve seen him do it before. A little unusual here though for more situationally specific reasons.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm Your power, mostly — the number of scum will be revealed upon death implies a changing number of scum.
Why?
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JiwonMeganPark wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:23 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:59 pm Your power, mostly — the number of scum will be revealed upon death implies a changing number of scum.
Why?
I just thought it does. I dunno. It’s not 9-2, is what I’m saying, and the way that power works makes me think it’s not 8-3 either. Therefore...
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I bet the mafia has a recruit but can only recruit certain characters, which would fit within the “apocalyptic naysayers” theme. That balances it somewhat. Maybe it starts at one but then I assume they’ve already had a chance to recruit. I’ll relisten to the record when my power comes back on and see if I can figure anything out.

[to the scum team: recruit me, don’t recruit DS I think he claimed ziggy or something]
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Honestly I think DS hinted Ziggy and is disappointed no one picked up on it. Maybe like he has a power where he can rescue people who have been converted? That’s in line with the character.
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Gonna nip this in the bud, no I am not ziggy or a pr, I actually tried to clear myself based off of wording in what I assumed was a cut and pasted vanilla role pm

That's what

, sorry. Flavor! Was. With the flavor being vanilla

Just trying to not get modkilled so I didn't post it exactly lol

Anyone who has seen me play knows that I will try to auto clear myself as town any way possible
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:48 pm Gonna nip this in the bud, no I am not ziggy or a pr, I actually tried to clear myself based off of wording in what I assumed was a cut and pasted vanilla role pm

That's what

, sorry. Flavor! Was. With the flavor being vanilla

Just trying to not get modkilled so I didn't post it exactly lol

Anyone who has seen me play knows that I will try to auto clear myself as town any way possible
..................... what
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Not sure how much clearer that could be? If you know you know?
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Maybe Nanook was smarter than I thought and didn't just copy paste the role pm for vanillas? If so then I'm not cleared via pm language but I should be cleared via thinking I was clearing myself via vanilla role pm language?

So either way I'm still cleared lol
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Well I'm not vanilla so I wouldn't know, but also it kinda seems like you're doing a sketchy angleshooty thing that you shouldn't do
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:30 pm
DS. wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:30 pm Let's try for a quick clear.

, sorry. Flavor!
You need an avatar.

Here you go.

Image

The avatars I tried were too big I guess and I didn't care enough to resize

How did you know I am the yung gambit hoe tho?
Cause Gambit’s the best. Also he’s holding a Jack of Hearts.
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:04 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:08 am You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information
This is exactly my feelings on Leetic's appeals to "If I'm a wolf, who are my partners then, huh?"

Like I've said that as a townie....on day 4 after getting in fights with literally the entire playerlist. On D1, it doesn't mean much.

While I'm using a post, here's about where I'm at

Dunya (light green starts here)
Jiwon
Dusk
DS (yellow starts here)
LC
Mac
Nutella (orange starts here)
Leetic <- but Leetic is not scum with Epi or Nutella probly
Epi


I should be dark green btw, again, I've already lock cleared myself so it's strange to me no one has picked up on it yet
Lol my bad.
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:shrug:
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:48 pm Gonna nip this in the bud, no I am not ziggy or a pr, I actually tried to clear myself based off of wording in what I assumed was a cut and pasted vanilla role pm

That's what

, sorry. Flavor! Was. With the flavor being vanilla

Just trying to not get modkilled so I didn't post it exactly lol

Anyone who has seen me play knows that I will try to auto clear myself as town any way possible
darn that’s one more person that can be recruited
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nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:05 pm Well I'm not vanilla so I wouldn't know, but also it kinda seems like you're doing a sketchy angleshooty thing that you shouldn't do
he’s probably making up the whole thing, I think
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I mean that makes no sense
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nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:19 pmIf one of Epi and Nutella is teamed with Leetic, it's Nutella by a mile. If.
Epi doesn't bus his teammate on day 1, he's pretty averse to bussing overall. I don't think anyone busses out of the gates if it's a 2-scum game.
agreed


which is why if leetic is wolf his partner is tony


checkmate leetic i found your teammate what now
Am I supposed to say yikes to this?
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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:10 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:10 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:36 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:19 pmIf one of Epi and Nutella is teamed with Leetic, it's Nutella by a mile. If.
Epi doesn't bus his teammate on day 1, he's pretty averse to bussing overall. I don't think anyone busses out of the gates if it's a 2-scum game.
agreed


which is why if leetic is wolf his partner is tony


checkmate leetic i found your teammate what now
Am I supposed to say yikes to this?
yikes
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If there's a vanilla role pm nanook would definitely give it to scum and I have seen ds try this kind of stunt as both alignments so it means nothing to me
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nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:06 pm
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

girl, do your thing where mac knows whether or not you're town pls.
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm thing where mac knows whether or not you're town
dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 pm where mac knows
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I’m not but it hurts that Mac was retconned into me.
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:09 pm
nutella wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:05 pm Well I'm not vanilla so I wouldn't know, but also it kinda seems like you're doing a sketchy angleshooty thing that you shouldn't do
he’s probably making up the whole thing, I think
You're saying that I'm faking a role pm clear with a role pm I haven't seen? That makes no sense. I was clearly referencing what I had from role pms since it was done in my first post.

Either Nanook cut and paste or he did not, those are like the only two options
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Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:11 pm If there's a vanilla role pm nanook would definitely give it to scum and I have seen ds try this kind of stunt as both alignments so it means nothing to me
This is fair.

I'm still lock town though
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[mention]Duskfall[/mention]

Who is scum?
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Nutella’s shit doesn’t make any damned sense from a town perspective.

That’s also what I was saying to myself when I mislynched her twice.
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DS, this is either severe angleshooting and you know it, or you’re faking. I’m choosing the more charitable option. I’ll call it NAI cause I’m nice. Let’s get on with the game.
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Today I would lynch leetic/tony so far but no confident scumread tbh
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:14 pm DS, this is either severe angleshooting and you know it, or you’re faking. I’m choosing the more charitable option. I’ll call it NAI cause I’m nice. Let’s get on with the game.
It's minor angleshooting at best (It's definitely not YETL), and I am fine with that.
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[mention]DS.[/mention]

Who is scum? Pretend I don’t care about your role pm or fucking aliens or anything else you’ve talk about lately.
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Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
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Kinda hate wasting a post on this but, how do I check how many posts per day I have so far?
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:30 pm Kinda hate wasting a post on this but, how do I check how many posts per day I have so far?
it says posts in topic under your name above total postcount
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:30 pm Kinda hate wasting a post on this but, how do I check how many posts per day I have so far?
Unless you’re on mobile. Then it’s the number here.

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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
Who should I vote for bb?
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I have not felt inspired or impressed with leetic once the high flames came off their ass.

Mac is going to be next because they are the only person who has done literally nothing so far itt except caress DS's ass.

Epi, how about some reads beyond your leetic stuff. I don't know where your heads at.

My ass is pissy.
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
No baby, I'm town, powering my way through the thread cos that's how I roll. ;)
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Happy to move TSP into my high deep greens.

Deep greens:
Dusk
DS.
Tony
Jack
Jiwon

My piss yellow list:
Epi
Nutella
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My shady list:
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whys tony town dunya?
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:14 pm DS, this is either severe angleshooting and you know it, or you’re faking. I’m choosing the more charitable option. I’ll call it NAI cause I’m nice. Let’s get on with the game.
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DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:14 pm DS, this is either severe angleshooting and you know it, or you’re faking. I’m choosing the more charitable option. I’ll call it NAI cause I’m nice. Let’s get on with the game.
It's minor angleshooting at best (It's definitely not YETL), and I am fine with that.
lmao i'm actually a big fan of the yetl thing and don't really find it angleshooty necessarily, while this is for sure
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dunya wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:12 pm I have not felt inspired or impressed with leetic once the high flames came off their ass.

Mac is going to be next because they are the only person who has done literally nothing so far itt except caress DS's ass.

Epi, how about some reads beyond your leetic stuff. I don't know where your heads at.

My ass is pissy.
Love these takes and your spark hope you're not powerwolfing <3
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MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:53 pm
DS. wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:24 pm Personally I think dunya has been the most outwardly aggressive in a way that scum could be if they were attempting to power. Not sure if that aligns with their normal meta or not

With no meta on anyone but Dusk really my read at this point before flips is gonna be based off of wagonomics as the day goes on.

Mac needs to put a real vote down. We are past RVS.
Who should I vote for bb?
Self?

Gg
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Duskfall wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:20 pm whys tony town dunya?
I was more at why is Nutella so low?

Swap Jack and Nutella and I am okay with it
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Looks like that Community Mafia is the only other game on this site that leetic has been scum in. In that one, he Made a big rainbow list of all the players and basically attacked low posters as scum in it. I'm not seeing any of the same style here. I don't like the unwieldy jump to "If I'm scum, why is no one saving me? If I'm scum, who is my teammate? Huh?" but I could see it just being a town reaction.
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