Ziggy Stardust Mafia

[JiwonMeganPark]

that jowin post pinged me a little

Pinged you in what way?

it was slightly scummy, why do you think that is?

I gave a clue?

If you can tell me why i think it is scummy it would no longer be scummy

DKDK?

[Duskfall]

No

[JiwonMeganPark]

except

Because I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

good stuff, @@DS. but what does his fixation with post count tell you? and how is it alignment indicative?

you only have 5 more posts, so feel free to wait to respond when you can multiquote. oops, i mentioned post count.

It's just more of a "where are the intentions here?" To me. It's like, I asked him a direct question about his read on jiwon and he basically shrugged me off. Post count stuff seems like filler to me

it's not really a shrug off though. he said "there's no reason to town read her" - it's a valid excuse. how i play mafia is finding town motive and voice in posts, and if i can't do that with someone then they become suspects. saying someone has don't nothing to earn a town-cred is a valid reason to suspect them imo.

speaking of EOD - there's no actual time stamp on the vote sheet, yikes. what time EST does day end @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME might be worth telling @boo as well since we have a site update in a few hours.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 96#p613658

[nutella]

I wanted to entertain scum dunya here but I can tell she genuinely suspects me so I'm gonna go ahead and say she's never scum here


And no dunya I'm not trying to pocket you lol, lynch me if you must but we will have words

[nutella]

I agree with dusk that jiwon's multiquote post felt off somehow but I can't really pinpoint why. Might just be that she overall sounds different than she did in FTL, but that may just be that she's more comfortable on the site/with some of the overlapping players at least. Idk

[JiwonMeganPark]

except

Because I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?

Hoxy is it because I forgot to but "~" in my post~?

[JiwonMeganPark]

*put

[nutella]

except

Because I said except instead of expect?
Because I asked 2 people are they town?
Because I jumped to macdougall?

Hoxy is it because I forgot to but "~" in my post~?

lol hmm

[dunya]

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] it was jiwon who moved.

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

they have been at 4 and 5 votes at various times itg and no one has hammered them. too suspicious.

[dunya]

[mention]nutella[/mention] i like you having words with me before the game ends too.

what do you think of mac and LC here?

[nutella]

@nutella i like you having words with me before the game ends too.

what do you think of mac and LC here?

I have some extremely nebulous okay feelings about them but nothing too strong which is concerning, especially for mac I feel like I can usually find him as town pretty quickly. I know he's also been stretched pretty thin with other games/commitments tbf. Idk neither of them are out of the woods

[dunya]

do you think jack is town like i do and pls tell me why on earth i'm not tunneling jack like i should?

could jack and leetic be it.

[nutella]

do you think jack is town like i do and pls tell me why on earth i'm not tunneling jack like i should?

could jack and leetic be it.

Well I'm currently voting for Jack but that's from before most of his posts and I'm honestly not really sure how to feel about him. I think he's *probably* not w/w with leetic??

[JiwonMeganPark]

@TonyStarkPrime why are you not voting?

[JiwonMeganPark]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]

[leetic]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

[Duskfall]

I agree with dusk that jiwon's multiquote post felt off somehow but I can't really pinpoint why. Might just be that she overall sounds different than she did in FTL, but that may just be that she's more comfortable on the site/with some of the overlapping players at least. Idk

It's because she's kind of tiptoey

[JiwonMeganPark]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

[leetic]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

Yeah

[Duskfall]

Jack is in the bottom half of Poe rn

[dunya]

i dunno if i believe leetic. they sure waited till the eleventh hour which is different when he claimed cop in community. what do you think [mention]DS.[/mention]?

[Long Con]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Two for one ain't a bad deal.

Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.

I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.

[leetic]

i dunno if i believe leetic. they sure waited till the eleventh hour which is different when he claimed cop in community. what do you think @DS.?

Why do you hold me to the same standard as one game that I played over a year ago?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I wanted to entertain scum dunya here but I can tell she genuinely suspects me so I'm gonna go ahead and say she's never scum here


And no dunya I'm not trying to pocket you lol, lynch me if you must but we will have words

Why do you want to do that?

(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)

[nutella]

...Uh huh.

[JiwonMeganPark]

I wanted to entertain scum dunya here but I can tell she genuinely suspects me so I'm gonna go ahead and say she's never scum here


And no dunya I'm not trying to pocket you lol, lynch me if you must but we will have words

Why do you want to do that?

(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)

The day is ending and you are not even close to post restriction

[Long Con]

i dunno if i believe leetic. they sure waited till the eleventh hour which is different when he claimed cop in community.

That is true. leetic has been under pressure since the very start, and the (true) cop claim came earlier... how much earlier was it? This seems a bit different, just "fine, but I'm taking DS with me". That could be an ability of either alignment, whereas a cop claim is a town claim.

[leetic]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Two for one ain't a bad deal.

What am I supposed to say to this? If DS is town, losing two townies would be terrible for balance, especially if there are more than two scum. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[dunya]

87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

why would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover? it's a slight shade on their character. their entire back and forth could have gone very differently and the whole day phase if leetic had instead claimed when the others did.

i'm not really swayed by this. i think leetic's partner told them to give it a shot.

[Duskfall]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Two for one ain't a bad deal.

Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.

I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.

How do you think epi plays?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I also hate when my autocorrect changes real words to other real words. Idk if I typed “say” or “day” but I noticed the post said “I want to day” so I went back and fixed it only for my phone to fix it back. Maddening. I make enough typos on my own.

[JiwonMeganPark]

If DS is scum though, it is a prettay good deal

[Long Con]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

Yeah

I missed this post. That implies that they're both town then, so it is as "I'm town " as a cop claim.

Linki: ok I don't really know exactly what "lovers" implies.

[nutella]

87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

why would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover? it's a slight shade on their character. their entire back and forth could have gone very differently and the whole day phase if leetic had instead claimed when the others did.

i'm not really swayed by this. i think leetic's partner told them to give it a shot.

yeah, I'm not finding this particularly believable.

[JiwonMeganPark]

why would leetic tag that on when talking to their lover?

I don't find talking like that to your lover weird at all~

[Epignosis]

87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information

*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.

I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point

It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?

These are leetic's interactions with DS.

I don't see any indication here that leetic would want DS. to survive Day 1.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I wanted to entertain scum dunya here but I can tell she genuinely suspects me so I'm gonna go ahead and say she's never scum here


And no dunya I'm not trying to pocket you lol, lynch me if you must but we will have words

Why do you want to do that?

(While I’m posting I just wanna day that I hate post count restrictions. I like quoting a single post and talking about it. I like telling jokes. Not being able to do these things freely cramps my style and affects my tone. It’s also much easier to break a “no more than x posts” rule than any other rule. I suggest dropping post restrictions an hour before eod to prevent game effecting overposting if that isn’t already a thing.)

The day is ending and you are not even close to post restriction

And?

Last time someone said this to me, I still went over.

Mobile doesn’t show post count. You have to go look for it. Causes me to post less. Hate it.

[nutella]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

Yeah

I missed this post. That implies that they're both town then, so it is as "I'm town " as a cop claim.

Linki: ok I don't really know exactly what "lovers" implies.

I think lovers can be different alignments. That said I think DS is town, but even if the claim is true I don't believe it clears leetic lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

...Uh huh.

Uh huh what?

[JiwonMeganPark]

Oww yes :3

[Long Con]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Two for one ain't a bad deal.

Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.

I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.

How do you think epi plays?

Differently than most other players I have ever seen. Belligerent, condescending, with an unwavering resolve that his methods and conclusions are true, even sometimes in the face of logical proof otherwise.

[leetic]

87 posts at least 5 of which are the mods most likely divided by 11 players

7 or so posts per player (with some players perhaps not even having checked in yet? Fact check me on this I don't read deep on non champs games), and like, if anyone seriously attempts to claim they have a read on anyone's potential partners this early in the game I would say they also have a beach house in Idaho to sell you

So are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get anything done? It's not like the number of posts in this thread is going to increase exponentially anytime soon.

That's not at all what I'm saying actually

I'm just saying why are you asking questions no one could possibly have the answer to yet? That doesn't seem reasonable.

I know it can be hard when you have a wagon on you but like, try to see the game objectively. This early in the game there's no way to have a team read yet

First of all, there's no way that absolutely no information can be said about partners. Many people have commented on me, there should at least be a few people who can eliminate as options. Furthermore, you can just as easily say "This early in the game there's no way to have accurate reads yet (to any degree of confidence)" but that doesn't mean that posting reads isn't helpful. This post reads as noncooperative to me.

You're saying that you can eliminate some as partners, okay maybe, but there's no way (in my opinion) that those reads could really be solid, but hey, I don't have meta so maybe you are seeing things that I'm not, who knows, I still think it's unlikely

But let's say you're right and we can eliminate some players from being your partner

That doesn't make it so that we KNOW who your partner is. You see what I'm saying? There's not enough information

*sigh* When I ask that question, I don't mean "tell me who you 100% know for absolute certain is my partner". I'm saying "tell me who you think could be my partner". I guess someone's being a bit too literal minded here.

I'm not trying to talk down to you btw I don't want it to come off that way

I think your energy is just better off pushing/prodding at things not involving your own wagon at this point because we literally don't have enough information to garner anything off of it at this point

It's not my fault that nobody has really talked about anything besides me at this point. Hell, when I asked Epi, he refused, and my most recent attempt at getting people to discuss people other than me has failed as well. What would you do if you were in my position?

These are leetic's interactions with DS.

I don't see any indication here that leetic would want DS. to survive Day 1.

None of these posts imply he is scum, I was just defending myself/asking for clarification. Like just because I shade someone, does that mean I want them to die No because it is just how I scumhunt.

[Duskfall]

If they are lovers I want to lynch them more because the longer it goes on the more the "oh we might lose" becomes a reason to not lynch leetic. When's the line drawn do you just accept you lose if there's a town-scum lover pair?

[dunya]

further, how does leetic know that DS is their lover on day 1 of the game? usually you have to find each other, no? or does it come in your role card: you are DS's lover?

[JiwonMeganPark]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

[leetic]

I'm only lovers with DS during this day phase; I get to pick someone else the next day. It's how my role works

[Long Con]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Are you lovers with DS?

Yeah

I missed this post. That implies that they're both town then, so it is as "I'm town " as a cop claim.

Linki: ok I don't really know exactly what "lovers" implies.

I think lovers can be different alignments. That said I think DS is town, but even if the claim is true I don't believe it clears leetic lol

I'd really like to hear what [mention]DS.[/mention] has to say about it.

[Duskfall]

If you take me down, DS is going down with me. Is that really what you want?

Two for one ain't a bad deal.

Just got caught up, and I see the lynch ends at 3. Dunya, I know my ISO isn't that meaty. I don't usually get more heavily involved in a game until a lynch or two has gone by.

I don't suspect Epignosis, this looks fine for him. I do think that Duskfall's analysis of Epi could be TMI-related, because I don't think he knows how Epi plays.

How do you think epi plays?

Differently than most other players I have ever seen. Belligerent, condescending, with an unwavering resolve that his methods and conclusions are true, even sometimes in the face of logical proof otherwise.

I'm too flames tbh

[leetic]

Sorry DS