Amdibals at the Zoo! [END]

[tutuu]

I haven't been swayed by a piece of AtE in 10 years and I don't intend to start now

"I dont think dizzy can fake this post about ego and regret about eod1 wagons as mafia"

[Urist]

LOL she got u there alison

[Urist]

k bye

[Alison]

I haven't been swayed by a piece of AtE in 10 years and I don't intend to start now

(also just to be clear on this, I have been swayed by people who obvtowned themselves in the process of giving their AtE, but the AtE themselves has never swayed me - that same piece of AtE given by someone else would not have made me townread them because they did not obvtown in the process of doing so)

[Alison]

I haven't been swayed by a piece of AtE in 10 years and I don't intend to start now

"I dont think dizzy can fake this post about ego and regret about eod1 wagons as mafia"

That was not AtE, Dizzy wasn't even directing that emotion at me, it was just generally expressed emotion

AtE is when you try to convince someone that X should be done, not for logical reasons, but because they pity you or dont' want to make you sad

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] is replacing [mention]Turnip Head[/mention]. Please do not discuss replacement actions. Thank you.

[tutuu]

btw have i told u guys that alison and nutella are both mafia today

[tutuu]

just in case ive forgotten - alison and nutella are both mafia

[tutuu]

[mention]protocultures[/mention] pls dont defend the wolf whom ur even correctly scumreading to top it off out of self preservation reasons like ur VT dude wtf???

[Alison]

Hi Wilgy! You replaced into an awkward slot, your predecessor was heavily suspected.

[MacDougall]

Can you elaborate a bit more about what exactly they've done that you believe is justifiably scummy? Like I'm sorry if you answered this before and I just didn't see or something but I've received no good answers when I ask these questions of anyone else so

Like I get some vague pointing at how proto is saying something they disagree with or making pushes they don't like (despite him doing this every single game), or how Amy being voted produces "wagonomics" and I'm just incredibly unsatisfied with all of those answers. If you think you have better ones feel free to make them explicit to me

Allison I don't want to get into a two page back and forth with you like you did with Tutuu it's unproductive. If you're gonna unravel and make me answer to every accusation, gut read, random thought or random observation I make this game will end up sucking for you, me and anyone who reads it.

I don't understand why everyone in this game is so diametrically opposed to the act of justifying the actions they take tbh. I honestly feel like if you don't want to explain your thoughts and actions to others you should just pick a different game to play, because nobody can understand you if you do this and you're at best coasting along on tone or meta without actually trying to impart your thoughts on other players. In this case it wasn't even an offhand thought or whatever, it was literally your focal point for refuting my case on the Amy/proto voters, so if you genuinely feel like offering explanations for your reads is nitpicking or whatever then there's nothing I can do to really engage w/ you sorry

I can't speak for everyone else but it's just not my strategy to do that in this game at this point of the game. I just want to analyse different things and I'm not super willing to engage in back and forth live stuff until I have relevant things to say.

[nutella]

@protocultures pls dont defend the wolf whom ur even correctly scumreading to top it off out of self preservation reasons like ur VT dude wtf???

what is this

[nutella]

Hi Wilgy! You replaced into an awkward slot, your predecessor was heavily suspected.

th was towny tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tutu, I’d encourage you to play a bit more cooperatively/be a bit more receptive to other people’s reads. Trying to strongarm everyone into doing what you want is uh

Not super fun, and not super effective.

[tutuu]

@protocultures pls dont defend the wolf whom ur even correctly scumreading to top it off out of self preservation reasons like ur VT dude wtf???

what is this

Proto scumreads alison and says that despite scumreading her he doesnt wanna vote her cuz shes defending him

[tutuu]

Tutu, I’d encourage you to play a bit more cooperatively/be a bit more receptive to other people’s reads. Trying to strongarm everyone into doing what you want is uh

Not super fun, and not super effective.

"Tutuu u shouldnt tell ppl how to play the game" said nanook, as he was telling tutuu how to play the gamr

[tedxtr]

morning

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tutu, I’d encourage you to play a bit more cooperatively/be a bit more receptive to other people’s reads. Trying to strongarm everyone into doing what you want is uh

Not super fun, and not super effective.

"Tutuu u shouldnt tell ppl how to play the game" said nanook, as he was telling tutuu how to play the gamr

I clearly framed it as a suggestion

[tutuu]

I mean i am suggesting ppl to vote for my scumreads too and i just voice it in a passionate way cuz im passionate and emotional

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ok

[tutuu]

yea. ur even literally voting alison with me lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

And...? Not particularly relevant lol

[tutuu]

so u cant be annoyed that im distracting from finding the scum ur just annoyed at the way i express myself

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m not annoyed

I was just trying to make a friendly suggestion about not strong arming people, do whatever you want with it, idc

[MacDougall]

Guys this is actually a really civil game and some people are misinterpreting people as antagonistic wrongly tbh

[protocultures]

@protocultures pls dont defend the wolf whom ur even correctly scumreading to top it off out of self preservation reasons like ur VT dude wtf???

This game is interesting. Who is this wolf you refer to my love?

I need to stop slacking and do some more Isos at some point.

I think I do be leaning Alison more town now though.

[protocultures]

So another thing - I was carefully tracking the Nanook shrug or lack thereof. I hate that carot mentioned it because now Nanook is doing it at his usual frequency.

Still not sure what the lack of shrugs meant previously.

On level 1 it means carot and Nanook are not wolf wolf since they could have just communicated the lack of shrugs in btsc. However since btsc is enabled in all cycles maybe it's a double bluff so we I correctly assume they can't be wolf wolf by making the post in the thread. Kind if prefer not wolf wolf conclusion though.

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought

[protocultures]

[mention]Carotenoid[/mention]

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Re Sabie and ted comments.

I kind of like Mac's one long post re reads list. Should prob stop voting them at some point. Assume day ends in about 12 hours?

[tedxtr]

yeah - that's not reliable meta

sabie thought I was town in GoC as well and I finessed her

sabie's reference game was "All my Circuits" when I was just trying to impress everyone, because it was my first game on site

now that I'm settled in I don't really care ; more of a "enjoying the ride" until I have to put in extra work - either because I'm being pushed or because I am not fine with the status quo and thinking we may be lead astray, or when I'm 100% convinced of a scum

examples would be FTL ; Pyre ; I find d1's to be a drag for the most part

[protocultures]

Did a quick iso of carot and then realised I have no point of reference for a scum game.

I don't really read any of their posts as scummy except one. The problem is that the one post I find scummy is their huge reads list and in that one we disagree a lot. Could be my reads are wrong, their reads are wrong, or we are both wrong. Can't scumread them yet and lean them town.

They are focussing more on players they have played with before on TS (looks like it to me anyway). It's exactly what I am doing as well since its way easier to sort players you have played with before.

[tedxtr]

I actually don't have too big of an opinion on any of the top wagons except for Mac but that may be more of a me fault than theirs

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought

Jesus Christ just let me play how I wanna play

[MacDougall]

ToP wAgOn

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Don’t let the haters get you down broseph

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought

feels opportunistic

[MacDougall]

Does it? Just seems dumb to me.

[Urist]

So in the last game I played here, there was a mad scramble to organize at EoD and it allowed mafia to openly make scummy plays. Can we not do that again??

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.

Have you heard any of Radiohead’s other albums?

I listened to Kid A the day after. I liked it a little more but still just fine.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Spoiler: show

112
Voters: nutella, Amy, ColinIsCool

Alison
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Urist

Amy
Voters: Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

MacDougall
Voters: protocultures

nutella
Voters: tedxtr

TenThousandCalories
Voters: 112

tutuu
Voters: Alison

Urist
Voters: MacDougall

Why are so many people still on vanity wagons? I'm getting flashbacks to Lion King already. EoD is going to be a shit show.

Ehh feels town

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've been using the phrase "it's unclear to me" a lot in this game I've noticed, and it's probably because a lot of players in this game seem determined to make their play as unclear as inhumanly possible for reasons unknown

linki: exhibit A

As the expert of saying unclear things with unclear reasoning this feels false

[TonyStarkPrime]

tsp's popping in to change the vote from mac to colin is bad tho

No you

[TonyStarkPrime]

Bottom of page 16, can’t tell if Alison is genuinely frustrated or is a wolf. Some of the stuff seems off but it feels real enough. But emotion is nai, as I’ve recently seen.

[TonyStarkPrime]

So in the last game I played here, there was a mad scramble to organize at EoD and it allowed mafia to openly make scummy plays. Can we not do that again??

No.

[protocultures]

I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.

Have you heard any of Radiohead’s other albums?

I listened to Kid A the day after. I liked it a little more but still just fine.

Am I the I it one who wishes they would go back to Pablo honey and the bends style? At some point they switched to another style and while it was interesting, I didn't like it as much.

[protocultures]

I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.

Have you heard any of Radiohead’s other albums?

I listened to Kid A the day after. I liked it a little more but still just fine.

Am I the I it one who wishes they would go back to Pablo honey and the bends style? At some point they switched to another style and while it was interesting, I didn't like it as much.

Am I the only one... Typo

[ColinIsCool]

I've been doing the tbh since I read whatever game boq was in and we all started using it tbh. It's spread over to my real life writing. it's a problem. It really is quite out of character.

I voted for Mac because I thought he was a wolf. I think differently now.

I got a new drum set today. Have been making noise. Will continue to make noise for a while. Ping me with questions.

Have you heard any of Radiohead’s other albums?

I listened to Kid A the day after. I liked it a little more but still just fine.

Am I the I it one who wishes they would go back to Pablo honey and the bends style? At some point they switched to another style and while it was interesting, I didn't like it as much.

I am a Pablo Honey truther and think it’s great, better than some of the later albums even, but nahhhhhhh

[tutuu]

Just so u guys know alison never gets frustrated for real in mafia games except when shes personally attacked i guess, its an inherent trait of her personality to fake it as both town and scum

[tutuu]

Ive decided 3rd maf is colin, making that post by post case on 112, shading tedxtrs wrong vote on mcdougall as opportunustic rather than just wrong as mcdougall identified it as. colin just slimy

if its not him it has to be 10k calories

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: MacDougall ] aubergine

think his reads are barely progressing and most of the ones that are being changed are done for surface level reasoning that don't show depth of thought

feels opportunistic

lol