Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[Poison]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Could you remind me why you scumread me? I've honestly forgotten.

I have a wall. Lemme iso myself to find it for you. Apart from that you can always ctrl +f your name in my iso.

[Poison]

What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

[Poison]

Wilgy, are you town, sir?

[tedxtr]

gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

[Poison]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

[112]

What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

Thanks.

That's my town game tbh.

[Poison]

gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

[Poison]

What did 112 do in the game so far?

- Called out two widely TRed players scum early on. Instantly said they both cannot be scum together.
- Called the entire player list scum throughout the game, a few at a time, or a lot at a time. [Her ISO is full of it]
- No reasons were given to most of their reads, mostly all naked “X is such alignment” post and afterwards becoming diplomatic on those reads.
- Reasons for reads/votes were given only when asked specifically or more than once.
- The votes casted by them were rather random, and were explained poorly [as I believe] upon asking her.

What she did so far in this game seems really very scummy to me. Now, there’s one thing called playing style and there’s this other thing called playing safe , playing for town creds, playing in such a way that you can both save or buss your teammates, in other words a more balanced out reads throughout the game, which is very very prominent, I mean just look at her ISO once, for god's sake.

First, let’s talk about her reasons for her reads, if you take, Vulgard’s suss early on, that read is forced and was given for the sake of it. In a scenario, let’s say, Vulgard is indeed scum, 112 walks in calling him out as an obvious scum. Her reason was he is repeating his statements/points.
1. I don’t think Vul actually repeated much than any usual player trying to talk to people about their reads.
2. Vulgard, by no means, were “obvious scum” if one at all.
3. The tone of her reason, seems a bit awkward and idk forced,or at least that’s how it sounds in my mind, never straight or strong or convincing enough.

Secondly, she calls me wolf, her reason for calling me wolf was quoted with a post of mine replying to vulgard about how I town read him cause I know where he’s coming from. So here 112 she says, how I come to form a town read on vul from prior justification and a few tidbits, which all related to my read on vul [of course no mention of how our interaction proceeded for me to come to that conclusion], having that as a reason she scum reads me. In the next line she says poison/vul ain’t w/w.

This whole thing in my opinion and from experience in a previous game is a tactic to get town cred easy. Calling out widely Tred people scum is not a wolf’s play, unless really skilled, she is skilled.

Additionally, her progression on Mich is the weirdest of all, and mostly flipflopping, as if she is ready to take up any direction any moment in the game, be it for reading her or voting her. In case of TSP though, she mentions that she would like to join the TSP wagon if possible, the TSP wagon was formed and thriving till EoD, but at EoD, her vote was on LC, a single vote on LC.

Beside all of these, just just read her ISO, neither did she do anything which is worth calling scum hunting, neither did she clarify her reads, she literally called the "entire" playerslist scum, all diplomatic views and reads and oh my god she is just scum and I'm literally blinded by her ISO and her post. Just read her ISO just do that or like convince me why she is town...

Thanks.

That's my town game tbh.

I don't know what to say to this tbh.

[Long Con]

gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

Good thing you'd be dead already then

[Long Con]

gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

You townread Epi because of tedxtr's opinion?

[Long Con]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

[112]

I think you're just taking a lot of NAI stuff and assuming it is AI, Poison.

[Poison]

gl if you guise are taking arete to F3

What would happen if the F3 is LC, wilgy and Epignosis? Hmm..

prolly vote LC

I think that makes somewhat sense. Epi can be town.

You townread Epi because of tedxtr's opinion?

I would not even trust him with a half eaten chocolate bar.

I think epi can be town based on their progression on 112 and a few things which made me think can come from town.

[Poison]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

[Poison]

I think you're just taking a lot of NAI stuff and assuming it is AI, Poison.

Could be, but if I try to look for NAI stuffs in your ISO, it would be 95% of all your posts. And honestly I have no idea about players with so many NAIs, it must be some sort of AI for them I just don't know about.

[Long Con]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

[Long Con]

I think that if 112 is bad, the wagon is clean.

Wilgy bad, Hally is the busser. But meh.

Hally bad, tedxtr busser.

[Poison]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

No I want you to tell me if you have any idea about the bussing history of the 3 players who are leading the wagons up there.

[Hally]

the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

tbh i think that whole interaction with tony should clear me, not specifically that post. like his push on me there plus how i responded isn’t teammate interaction. also his treatment of me generally was trying to create suspicion on me. i think it’s kinda obvious but like, obviously i’m biased. i really think you all are letting your inflated paranoia over my scum game blind you from seeing that i’m an obvious villager for so many reasons

[Poison]

Tbh, Ted can be a busser, I had played a VC mafia with him. The horrors. Dude tried to lynch me all the time. But meh, I ain't taking turbos or other mafia meta into consideration while playing a standard one.

[Long Con]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

No I want you to tell me if you have any idea about the bussing history of the 3 players who are leading the wagons up there.

No, I don't really keep those kinds of records.

[Long Con]

the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

tbh i think that whole interaction with tony should clear me, not specifically that post. like his push on me there plus how i responded isn’t teammate interaction. also his treatment of me generally was trying to create suspicion on me. i think it’s kinda obvious but like, obviously i’m biased. i really think you all are letting your inflated paranoia over my scum game blind you from seeing that i’m an obvious villager for so many reasons

I will look at his ISO and see if I see him generally putting suspicion on you.

[Poison]

the only concern is that poast from Hally that goes "I feel like TSP just perspective slipped"

I'd assume it's within her scum range but I'd probably look the other way if it were anybody else that did that so I may be at an impasse.

tbh i think that whole interaction with tony should clear me, not specifically that post. like his push on me there plus how i responded isn’t teammate interaction. also his treatment of me generally was trying to create suspicion on me. i think it’s kinda obvious but like, obviously i’m biased. i really think you all are letting your inflated paranoia over my scum game blind you from seeing that i’m an obvious villager for so many reasons

Tbh, Hally I think you are just town but there are a few things which fits as well if you are scum. But idk yet tbh.

[Hally]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

self-pres plus i’d rather vote with the people on 112 than the people on wilgy

[Poison]

How6much do people buss teammates here?

Depends on the person. I love to do it.

Looking at the wagons atm, do you know anyone who would do that easily?

You want me to decide who's bad, and which voter on them is also bad?

No I want you to tell me if you have any idea about the bussing history of the 3 players who are leading the wagons up there.

No, I don't really keep those kinds of records.

I see.

[Poison]

I'm just gonna go to bed. Would be back before eod

[Long Con]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

Tony did attack 112 relatively early. Distancing, or genuine?

[Hally]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

[112]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

it's not

[Hally]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

this feels chainsaw-y.

Tony did attack 112 relatively early. Distancing, or genuine?

i mean, he never actually followed up with anything re: 112. he kept being like “oh yea maybe 112 is scum” but never once actually tried to push her

[Long Con]

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

After only suspecting Hally, Tony turned it around to top-tier town read.

[Hally]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

it's not

then who is the team. right now gth

[Hally]

caught up.
I want to see more of our most excellent friend, but don't we all?
Who else. Tutuu maybe wolfy. Still no take on Ted, but do I ever have a take on ted? No vibes from poison. I think Vul and Nanook are both bleeding town, then hally probably.

After only suspecting Hally, Tony turned it around to top-tier town read.

yea, then he tried to walk it back a couple times of times iirc

[Long Con]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

[Hally]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

i expect one if not both of you to end on me

[Long Con]

I like the interactions here and here. I don't think they feel like scum distancing.

[112]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

it's not

then who is the team. right now gth

2 of wilgy/epi/lc

[Long Con]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

i expect one if not both of you to end on me

I might end up on you.

[112]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

LMAO

[Long Con]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

LMAO

Give me the signal when it's time to move together to Hally. The signal is: " "

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Yup yup!

[112]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

LMAO

Give me the signal when it's time to move together to Hally. The signal is: " "

kk

[Long Con]

Besides anything else, Hally has clearly stated she thinks tutuu is just being her regular town self. So not only is Tony deflecting, he's deflecting with a question he should already know the answer to.

well okay I didn't know that

Right, because you don't actually care about the answer so you didn't retain it.

I mean you show me where Hally said this

I think this is a strong non-aligned stance from Ash, and the Hally factor leans town for her.

[DrWilgy]

it’s probably just lc/112

they’re like pretending they wanna kill each other at various points but yet they’re both voting wilgy

No. Why would we vote together? We need Wilgy gone, of all people? Or we're just such good teammate buddies that we vote together out of companionship?

I'd ship it

[Long Con]

Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Yup yup!

I can't wait to see where this goes next. Damn you Poison, for going to bed!

[112]

Wilgy, are you town, sir?

Yup yup!

[tedxtr]

Hally bad, tedxtr busser.

[Long Con]

i feel like tony actually makes more sense here than usual. when he’s town and gives reads i feel like he talks in riddles but this game i can actually understand him sorta. is that scummy lmao

yes actually

This one downgrades Hally's alignment outlook, at face value. But I think Hally flip-flopping is towny too, so blah.

[112]

I had a fight with a kid when I was in preschool and we then became friends. It's like that with me and Long-Kun.

DrWilgy the Tyrant must be brought down.

[DrWilgy]

I had a fight with a kid when I was in preschool and we then became friends. It's like that with me and Long-Kun.

DrWilgy the Tyrant must be brought down.

Oh, you make me blush <3