Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Michelle]

dont ask for explanations pls too busy i swear i got like a lot important stuff to do i swear i got no time, too busy

tutuu
MacDougall
Michelle
nutella
Sloonei
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Dyslexicon
Timsup2nothin
dyachei

Marmot
DrWilgy
Thunal33
cat
112

Alison
TurnipHead

JackofHearts2005
Made
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Master Radishes
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca
Kylemii

Turnip head claimed 3rd part?

Also, Jack is not scum imo

[nutella]

Lol coffee tell.

[falcon45ca]

Alright, somebody give me a push: gimme 3 players to ISO, I'll come back with some hawt takes

[Sloonei]

And now for some loose marmot observations:

I also think Tutuu is town more strongly now for baiting Michelle. Idt Michelle is necessarily scummy for forgetting Esooa was playing, i've seen town do that before (I saw a townie seriously put the hosts in his readslist once).

I've voted for or stated reads on non-players before, but I've only done it when I'm scum.


But nobody's allowed to use this against me k?

This post follows some discussion about Michelle's read on a Player Not Appearing In This Game. Marmot acknowledges it and admits to having done it as scum before, but as far as I can tell he offers no input on what it means for Michelle to have done it in this game. He just comments vaguely about the occurrence in an out-of-game sense. He has interacted a fair bit with Michelle elsewhere. So @Marmot what are/were your thoughts on Michelle's read on the absent Esooa?

Also in this big post Marmot kind of avoids giving a read on tutuu more than once. This apparent ambivalence toward tutuu has persisted throughout Marmot's ISO, recently asking her if she's a jester. I want a clear stance on tutuu from Marmot. Gimme gimme.

lol its cute that youre so literal thunal

when alison put on her cat ears she transforms into thunal

lol I take that as a compliment since I really like very logical playstyles like Alison's.

My experiences with you in video mafia tells me that you also have a bit of a devilish/unpredictable streak in you too, in addition to playing logically.

And also a clear stance on Thunal would be cool. Please and thanks.

I struggle with Marmot because most of his contributions are coming 1-2 lines at a time. He has ~130 posts, but nearly all of them are quick, rapid fire thoughts without much accompanying detail, and most of it is reactionary as well, so it is skewed toward, well, the players that have been at the center of the bulk of the conversation. That is fine, but I want to see some more independent reads from Marmot. Who are some players we should be talking about more?

[nutella]

I mean, I guess they actually have played with me, but not really.

i can't believe you forgot about me, after all this time. :\

I haven't. I always liked your style, and you're funny. But I don't really remember much about your game play.

i was messing with you, i think we've pretty much exclusively had non overlapping hiatuses. i also don't remember much about your gameplay, which probably means you're a stronger player than me.

Also, I wasn't saying what I said in a "Oh no, so bad for town" way. I was just saying that in general, when there's a lot of powers, different factions, random stuff going on, individual players have waaaaaaay less control over the actual outcome. That's just a face. So to me, it's more about doing what I can and have fun in the early stages. And then I'll see if I'm alive later.

Also there should really be multi-yeets in such big games, especially if there's many different factions. I don't understand why this is never a thing. You literally don't have the time to yeet all the scum lol. Now this is a bit "sucks to be town" flavor. But it's true.

But it doesn't suck to be town though. Town is the best.

so it's like the difference between playing smash bros without items and smash bros with only Mr. Saturns

Yeah smash no items is like mountainous in that it is superior gameplay

[Sloonei]

Alright, somebody give me a push: gimme 3 players to ISO, I'll come back with some hawt takes

JPIC, Tim, Martin

[Kylemii]

what is "mountainous"

[Timsup2nothin]

Alright, somebody give me a push: gimme 3 players to ISO, I'll come back with some hawt takes

Nutella, Syn, Me

[tutuu]

Turnip head claimed 3rd part?

Also, Jack is not scum imo

0 poster

[Sloonei]

oh jeez look at the time. i need to go in a moment. Keep turning over stones, but also be mindful of the clock. As we move into the final 24 hours, we should start trying to focus discussion on a smaller group of more serious candidates.

[falcon45ca]

Alright, somebody give me a push: gimme 3 players to ISO, I'll come back with some hawt takes

JPIC, Tim, Martin

[DrWilgy]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

why does falcon feel like a hit to you

Bc he dropped off in activity in a way that 112 (who has meta on him) says is unlike him and potentially >rand scum, and several people independently find him sketchy-- feels likely to be a low effort wolf rand kind of deal

My name is DrWoogerZ and I approve of this message.

[Sloonei]

what is "mountainous"

Like when there's lots of big hills and stuff all over the place.

also a game without any power roles.

[tutuu]

what is "mountainous"

only vanilla town and mafia goons, the mafia need misyeets equal to the number of wolves + 2 to win (as opposed to +1 like most other popular templates)

[DrWilgy]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

Because he said so in scumchat?

[Dyslexicon]

I’m too old for smash bros. But I do play a lot of Scrabble.

It’s funny cause it’s true.

[DrWilgy]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

[Michelle]

Sloonei, if you have a problem with my read on the non playing player, please tell me now, not when is 3 am at me

[Justplayingitcool]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

[dyachei]

im caught up


you guys chat a lot

[Sloonei]

Sloonei, if you have a problem with my read on the non playing player, please tell me now, not when is 3 am at me

I do not. My question was for Marmot about his read on you.

[DrWilgy]

what is "mountainous"

That's basically Marmot's lifestyle.

[Michelle]

Turnip head claimed 3rd part?

Also, Jack is not scum imo

0 poster

And the zero posters deserve that pink colour? >.<

[Sloonei]

like as far as I can tell its all flavor and I was about to ignore it but wth no one is supposed to be dead afaik

In older days on the Syndicate, it was not uncommon for the Day 0 post to have some sort of mechanical impact on the game. Epi hails from that era. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a hidden significance to these votes.

Is the "hidden significance" part serious?

Oh nvm I literally just saw the poll, I thought you meant votes on players. Rob should go to bed like a good little Rob.

What did you think I meant?

I didn't know.

Why did you ask if it was serious?

I don't think @Thunal33 ever responded to this.

[Michelle]

Sloonei, if you have a problem with my read on the non playing player, please tell me now, not when is 3 am at me

I do not. My question was for Marmot about his read on you.

Ok, thanks

[dyachei]

mountainous is a type of torture that some people have been stockholm syndromed into believing they love it

it's not pure mafia, it's the worst of mafia

[DrWilgy]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

let's not. because that would be fucking dumb

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Go to work Sloonei, we'll talk later.

I am highly amused that both of us suggested my ISO to Falcon. If I were a real deeply embedded Syndicate regular I would claim mindmeld and lock you as town.

[Syn]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

boy do I love associatives D1 before any flips and while knowing the person in question has openly stated they aren't reading shit until someone has died

not a whine, just a keen observation that anything you have to say is meaningless

[falcon45ca]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

[Michelle]

im caught up


you guys chat a lot

Huge respect for reading this monster.

[falcon45ca]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

Because he said so in scumchat?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA





not funny

[Syn]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

[Michelle]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

A JPIC scum may explain some posts I noticed myself

[Justplayingitcool]

here we go again

[Michelle]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

The 3 are low posters ig

[Justplayingitcool]

IM NOT SCUM

[DrWilgy]

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

let's not. because that would be fucking dumb

Nah. I got no reasons to town read you.

[Justplayingitcool]

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

This entire exchange is bs

if you say so

let's yeet you! [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

let's not. because that would be fucking dumb

Nah. I got no reasons to town read you.

explain your read on me then, in detail

[Syn]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

The 3 are low posters ig

~400 posts between them all

[Justplayingitcool]

im legit tilted for being scumread on complete nonsense.

[falcon45ca]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3

[Syn]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3

I would, but then I'd be ISOing, and that would be simply unacceptable

[Syn]

anyway, I don't think you can read nearly 400 posts in 10 minutes and come away with real reads unless there's something glaring, which you didn't indicate

you hyped up this whole process for it to just be a gut percentage read, which you could have done without the pretense

[Justplayingitcool]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3

Why on earth do you want to yet a claimed indie

[falcon45ca]

anyway, I don't think you can read nearly 400 posts in 10 minutes and come away with real reads unless there's something glaring, which you didn't indicate

you hyped up this whole process for it to just be a gut percentage read, which you could have done without the pretense

Lisa's face echoes my face while reading this post

[dyachei]

im legit tilted for being scumread on complete nonsense.

Would you prefer being scumread on logic?

[Justplayingitcool]

im legit tilted for being scumread on complete nonsense.

Would you prefer being scumread on logic?

No, I'd prefer to be townread

[falcon45ca]

JPIC: low energy posts, which ask more questions of others than say anything as to his own thoughts on the game. The few thoughts I did see from him came with little to no explanation. He says that's how he plays? I dunno, I'm not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum.

Tim: for a guy who says he's into the big picture, he sure seems to be playing a snap shot type of game. Again, not familiar with his gamestyle. 60% scum

Martin: super small sample size, but his posts seem to come from a game solve mindset. 70% town

You ISO'd three people in a 3300+ post game in like 10 minutes?

Martin has like 10 posts, and JPIC doesn't have much either, and each of his posts is like 1-2 sentences max. Give it a go, see how long it takes you for those 3

Why on earth do you want to yet a claimed indie

Did I vote for you? Do I not have you at a 40% chance of being town?


Holy moley, sorry I didn't see you as a lock town 100% never gonna give you up die by yer side Bonnie Tyler holding out for a hero kinda read, but hey them's the breaks kid.