Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Justplayingitcool]

lol

[Made]

know mafia's wincon. There's no way you could know that. it's not public info

Did you just slip that I correctly guessed the wincon?

See, this "slip" business is crap.

I mean you've been very careful to say when you've been assuming things, then you say something that is confirmed (how mafia was confirmed) in the same sentence where you talk about something that's not confirmed. You said it like you didn't know the wincon wasn't confirmed

[nutella]

Mac no

[Justplayingitcool]

It probably wasn’t a slip

[Hyena]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

It really feels like you're deliberately casting around for a Hot New Thing to make yourself Look Good.

Like I guess I do that when i'm town too, sometimes, but it's certainly a scum trait.

That's what I do a lot as town. o: Why is it scummy?

[MartinGG99]

know mafia's wincon. There's no way you could know that. it's not public info

Did you just slip that I correctly guessed the wincon?

See, this "slip" business is crap.

I mean you've been very careful to say when you've been assuming things, then you say something that is confirmed (how mafia was confirmed) in the same sentence where you talk about something that's not confirmed. You said it like you didn't know the wincon wasn't confirmed

But people were talking to me using hypotheses (or reads) of large mafia teams....

Anyways the logic is convoluted to explain and I need to do other things.

Like (anit-)spewing, apparently.

[Made]

It probably wasn’t a slip

okay.

going back to the beat. If I find anything I'll let y'all know.

keep the faith town

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: no vote] aubergine

[Hyena]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Follow the Sloonmeister!

Did MR follow Sloonei's vote everytime it moved? If not, I feel like he was just using Sloonei's vote as an excuse to move his vote to Martin.

[tutuu]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Hyena]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

Hey, I noticed that I'm suddenly in your townlean pile. o: What made you move me from scum to townlean?

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Follow the Sloonmeister!

Did MR follow Sloonei's vote everytime it moved? If not, I feel like he was just using Sloonei's vote as an excuse to move his vote to Martin.

He did that once this phase iirc

[MartinGG99]

Oh and @Sloonei

I would love to hear an explanation from you on D3 once I'm dead as to why you were the first voter on me, and not only that, but kept your vote on me several hours before people started popping up on me.

[nutella]

it's too bad the martin godreader is a 3p who vowed not to help solve

[MartinGG99]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

its ok at least they aren't deleting you and if we assume my death is unavoidable now then I would do it all over again regardless of everyone's alignment.

This game has been quite enjoyable so far, and I really hope and believe I am right on you and Thunal. (Not too sure about Thunal considering replacement mention but I'm not going to go into that more considering some sites might have ethics against discussing it)

I already feel like I've achieved more than I did in past games; that somehow my skill has improved. If it hasn't and I was wrong somewhere, then this will be a great experience to learn from that.

Also weren't you supposed to do other stuffs >:(
(I'm not mad lol)

[MartinGG99]

it's too bad the martin godreader is a 3p who vowed not to help solve

Yeah ikr

but I wanted to interact with people who might've wanted to interact with me

[Hyena]

Okay, I like @Long Con. I looked at the last page of his ISO (most recent posts) and I'm having trouble finding stuff to engage him on, but in a good way.

[MartinGG99]

Can't do that at the same time that I'm creating what I think, anyways.

[Hyena]

Okay, I like @Long Con. I looked at the last page of his ISO (most recent posts) and I'm having trouble finding stuff to engage him on, but in a good way.

Like, I'm not finding anything I want to ask him about or tinfoil him town for.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think we should go no yeet and wait for info.

[nutella]

I think we should go no yeet and wait for info.

hee ho

[Hyena]

I didn't even read their interaction but tutuu said there was

how does nutella have 723 posts what nonsense is this

Are you shading Nutella?

[tutuu]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

Hey, I noticed that I'm suddenly in your townlean pile. o: What made you move me from scum to townlean?

to be honest i think i forgot

there is a chance i accidently colored u as light green instead of yellow and then i just rolled with it and i forgot

if you ask me right now whats my read on you i dont have a confident answer. gun to head im going to say town because you claimed your role 48 hours before eod in contrast with cat who never claimed a role, your role was provable and doesnt immediately jump to me as scummy, and i think other people have been scummier itt than you

so, i forgot why i moved u and i had no reason to, but now i talked myself into forming a read on you

[MartinGG99]

Was looking back at my ISO to regurgitate my notes and

Martin's content quality and activity < Anyone else's content quality and activity

its almost funny reading this cuz in someways its the opposite and that's the exact reason I'm being executed here lol

[nutella]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

Hey, I noticed that I'm suddenly in your townlean pile. o: What made you move me from scum to townlean?

to be honest i think i forgot

there is a chance i accidently colored u as light green instead of yellow and then i just rolled with it and i forgot

if you ask me right now whats my read on you i dont have a confident answer. gun to head im going to say town because you claimed your role 48 hours before eod in contrast with cat who never claimed a role, your role was provable and doesnt immediately jump to me as scummy, and i think other people have been scummier itt than you

so, i forgot why i moved u and i had no reason to, but now i talked myself into forming a read on you

sloonei being silenced spews hyena town imo

[Syn]

ate dinner

caught up

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

back to work, 113 pages left to edit wowee

[Hyena]

I think we should go no yeet and wait for info.

No, we should go for an info yeet.

[Hyena]

Also,
[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Made]

that reminds me. I'm not caught up. Should I do that? there anything notable in the last 600 post or so?

[MacDougall]

How did my vote change to TSP wot

[tutuu]

if you're town and i fail to find you as town by the end of the day im sorry martin

its ok at least they aren't deleting you and if we assume my death is unavoidable now then I would do it all over again regardless of everyone's alignment.

This game has been quite enjoyable so far, and I really hope and believe I am right on you and Thunal. (Not too sure about Thunal considering replacement mention but I'm not going to go into that more considering some sites might have ethics against discussing it)

I already feel like I've achieved more than I did in past games; that somehow my skill has improved. If it hasn't and I was wrong somewhere, then this will be a great experience to learn from that.

Also weren't you supposed to do other stuffs >:(
(I'm not mad lol)

its very cute that you added that elaboration in the brackets after that >:( emoji. super cute lol

if you are town then in my opinion, in that particular moment defending me against the mob with the torches, you displayed more skill than everyone else combined and i think its respectable that you trust yourself instead of relying on other people to solve the game for you. (only if ur town )

[Made]

How did my vote change to TSP wot

I was gonna ask you about that

[nutella]

zomg everyone is towny


(except dizzy but him not being here can be interpreted as a towntell for him)


so everyone is towny to some extent

people are good at mafia

[Alison]

@Alison if your wincon is to have half of the number of the people alive bargained with you, then why'd you out that you gave LC the track?

1) it helps give town assurance that I was following their pool
2) if the mafia wanted to kill the person I bargained with, they'd just shoot me - night actions that get sent to me get redirected to my bargainees
3) it magnetizes protects onto LC, thus preventing issues where I keep mum about who I bargained with and my target dies in the night to a random shot.

[MacDougall]

zomg everyone is towny


(except dizzy but him not being here can be interpreted as a towntell for him)


so everyone is towny to some extent

people are good at mafia

Martin is never towny so he's probs just mafia for being towny

[MartinGG99]

Group 1

TurnipHead
Long Con
Made
Hyena
Timsup2nothin
Sloonei
Syn
Thunal33
DrWilgy

Group 2

falcon45ca
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Master Radishes
112
MacDougall
Alison

Group 3

tutuu
Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
JackofHearts2005

Maybe this is more useful in the future @MacDougall (removed Cat and Sig/Dya), because that seems interesting to do while I figure out my reads list.

If I had to make one of these groups immune from deletion for a day, its really hard to guess which one because I really want to protect tutuu but honestly everyone else in group #3 there is someone I don't really know about and Michelle I only had a town-lean on for a single word use rather than anything in-depth.

Group 2 I probably always never protect. Aside from Mac, no one in there is a strong contender of being town to me.

And then there's group 1. It's also appealing in some ways, I mean I feel like Tim and Thunal33 are likely towns along with some possible wolves in there such as Hyena or Sloonei (maybe Syn but apparently some people think he's v/v with me) but if I were to protect group #3 then I imagine group #2 and #1 going at each other is basically the status quo after I'm dead even if I protected no one.

Final answer would probably be group #3 to protect though from what I've seen so far because I feel like that covers less possible wolves and given that we found mafia on d1 I believe in the towns to show they're town after my flip and reads and not get deleted.

[Long Con]

@Alison if your wincon is to have half of the number of the people alive bargained with you, then why'd you out that you gave LC the track?

1) it helps give town assurance that I was following their pool
2) if the mafia wanted to kill the person I bargained with, they'd just shoot me - night actions that get sent to me get redirected to my bargainees
3) it magnetizes protects onto LC, thus preventing issues where I keep mum about who I bargained with and my target dies in the night to a random shot.

[MartinGG99]

Martin is never towny so he's probs just mafia for being towny

LOL

[MartinGG99]

Uh, thanks for the insult?

[MartinGG99]

Well not insult but lol

[Timsup2nothin]

ate dinner

caught up

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

back to work, 113 pages left to edit wowee

[Timsup2nothin]

zomg everyone is towny


(except dizzy but him not being here can be interpreted as a towntell for him)


so everyone is towny to some extent

people are good at mafia

Martin is never towny so he's probs just mafia for being towny

Is there a reason we shouldn't just kill Made here?

[MartinGG99]

Martin's Reads!
(Don't read into the colorfulness please)

Mini-legend:
* - ** - *** : Low - Medium - High confidence (Low confidence = likely to move up or down in reads)
# : Significant lack of investigation by me into this player

Town
Town Lean
Null
Scum-lean
Scum

112*
Alison***
DrWilgy*#
Dyslexicon ** (sorta #)
falcon45ca **
Hyena*
JackofHearts2005 ** #
JustPlayingitcool **
Kylemii *
Long Con* (sorta #)
MacDougall **
Made*
Marmot ** #
Master Radishes***#
Michelle*#
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ***
nutella **
Sloonei **
Syn*
tedxtr*#
Thunal33***
Timsup2nothin**
TonyStarkPrime **
tutuu **


I guess this is the best summary I can do of how I feel on my reads? I can't really write a wall about absolutely everyone since I haven't investigated everyone especially with my limited time here.

[MartinGG99]

Oh and there's supposed to be a # next to TSP.

[MartinGG99]

Anyways I do feel like Falcon45ca should be chopped at some point cuz I find no value in him what-so-ever.

The gifs and jokes that encompassed most of D1 doesn't appease me. Nanook & JustPlayingItCool both stand out to me because if memory serves correctly they've been on quite a few trains I did not like and it makes me wonder if that's intentional or just coincidence.

(You might have to fact-check me on this though)

Syn I may just be biased in wanting to get rid of him but apparently some people think it was v/v between me and him and while I don't have all the time in the world to look into that I do wonder if one of them, if syn is a wolf, was a partner suggesting that.

[112]

Martin's Reads!
(Don't read into the colorfulness please)

Mini-legend:
* - ** - *** : Low - Medium - High confidence (Low confidence = likely to move up or down in reads)
# : Significant lack of investigation by me into this player

Town
Town Lean
Null
Scum-lean
Scum

112*
Alison***
DrWilgy*#
Dyslexicon ** (sorta #)
falcon45ca **
Hyena*
JackofHearts2005 ** #
JustPlayingitcool **
Kylemii *
Long Con* (sorta #)
MacDougall **
Made*
Marmot ** #
Master Radishes***#
Michelle*#
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME ***
nutella **
Sloonei **
Syn*
tedxtr*#
Thunal33***
Timsup2nothin**
TonyStarkPrime **
tutuu **


I guess this is the best summary I can do of how I feel on my reads? I can't really write a wall about absolutely everyone since I haven't investigated everyone especially with my limited time here.

I'm not really buying that you're null on all those people. No read on MR, nute, Made and Marmot?

[MartinGG99]

Sloonei feels like he could be suspicious because I feel like at the time he voted me, that was the exact time-frame that I was attacked for by other people I think

which makes me paranoid if he was mafia then he could be using BTSC to point out a vulnerability in my defense and get me smited

[MartinGG99]

I'm not really buying that you're null on all those people. No read on MR, nute, Made and Marmot?

You don't have to buy it now. Buy it later when I'm dead.

[MartinGG99]

Oh and I should note my role was used on Falcon45ca on N1. I won't claim what my role is or what it is named, but when I flip and if people wonder what I did then that's what I did.