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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
i buy michelle's explanation. damn this game is tough
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I hinted at town having too many ways to intervene in the lynch
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Yes, it is, it's the game of champions after allJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:06 am i buy michelle's explanation. damn this game is tough
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I understand this question, but also, is there any logic to these roles anymore? Wilgy had a role that was town but could turn the flip into false positives. We have had doctor in TSP, roleblocker in Martin and a 1-shot super protect in me. That is a lot of town protecting power. I don't know.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Alright. This does make sense. I don't think gaslighting is a "dirty" word actually. But I'm also not a native English speaker myself.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:03 amI explained i had a doubt, after so many days of suspecting her she came with the ignore for me, JPIC said this is not ok and tried to make peace, and she said I was gaslighting her and after I searched the meaning of the word she kind of backtracked and i wasn't so sure I am right she is scum. The accusation of gaslighting is serious and I doubted she would use it on me as scum to intimidate me. However, after today she sweared I am scum I think my reserve i had is not well placed.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:45 am There is one thing that bothers me. @Michelle Why were you so adamant about defending yourself at EoD8 with phrases like "Do you really want a town flip that bad" etc? When you knew that you would not be yeeted in any case, because you could just use your power on someone you scum read?
I prefered to not use my only one shot on her if i have a doubt, so I choose Alison and I received answer i can't because she is not in the poll.
The thing is, being so close to Eod i didn't have time to think again at tutuu, and please take count it was after monday when i worked all day and I had to be afk to have some time with my family.
Sometimes game is not my no 1 priority, i have to apologise for this.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I buy it too. Problem is I buy everyone.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:06 am i buy michelle's explanation. damn this game is tough
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Was mafia equally powerful?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:10 amI understand this question, but also, is there any logic to these roles anymore? Wilgy had a role that was town but could turn the flip into false positives. We have had doctor in TSP, roleblocker in Martin and a 1-shot super protect in me. That is a lot of town protecting power. I don't know.
How this makes sense?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
It's not a dirty word, but as serious accusation it's a thing that made me doubt myself and it's like a hit under the belt in box. Mafia can do this but it's low sportsmanship. My thought at eod was that she would not do this.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:12 amAlright. This does make sense. I don't think gaslighting is a "dirty" word actually. But I'm also not a native English speaker myself.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:03 amI explained i had a doubt, after so many days of suspecting her she came with the ignore for me, JPIC said this is not ok and tried to make peace, and she said I was gaslighting her and after I searched the meaning of the word she kind of backtracked and i wasn't so sure I am right she is scum. The accusation of gaslighting is serious and I doubted she would use it on me as scum to intimidate me. However, after today she sweared I am scum I think my reserve i had is not well placed.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:45 am There is one thing that bothers me. @Michelle Why were you so adamant about defending yourself at EoD8 with phrases like "Do you really want a town flip that bad" etc? When you knew that you would not be yeeted in any case, because you could just use your power on someone you scum read?
I prefered to not use my only one shot on her if i have a doubt, so I choose Alison and I received answer i can't because she is not in the poll.
The thing is, being so close to Eod i didn't have time to think again at tutuu, and please take count it was after monday when i worked all day and I had to be afk to have some time with my family.
Sometimes game is not my no 1 priority, i have to apologise for this.
But... I explained already...
i didn't know that, what's your native language?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Yeah, I mean, we're saying that, but look: The only actually unsolved thing that has happened is LC getting my role when investigating Michelle.
Nothing else has been unexplained or out of sync, really. It's just that Wilgy and Made had totally insane claims that only made sense in retrospect.
But the piece about Wilgy getting my role is the only thing that is unaccounted for. I don't know if it could be a mod error still.
(And the kills on Jack/TSP, but we have a good guess they were retroactive mod kills I guess)
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I see. And my native tongue is norwegian.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:32 amIt's not a dirty word, but as serious accusation it's a thing that made me doubt myself and it's like a hit under the belt in box. Mafia can do this but it's low sportsmanship. My thought at eod was that she would not do this.
But... I explained already...
i didn't know that, what's your native language?
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As experienced player you know town has great power when mafia has them. Then until now we don't have a flipped mafia with such powers, they were rather cubs than real wolves.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:30 amI can't answer this. I didn't make the setup. No matter what and who could be scum, town has had a looot of powers.
Let's imagine the setup without the demon powers from Alison
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Don't tell me Michelle thought I was one of the MURICANS
No shade.
Actually... a little bit of shade. =p
No shade.
Actually... a little bit of shade. =p
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Well, apparently not. I don't know anything more than you about this or how the game is balanced. That is all subjective stuff, mods to it in different ways. But town has had a lot of powers already, we know that for sure.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
You know, tutuu was first to speculate a mod kill, and looked pretty sure about thatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:33 amYeah, I mean, we're saying that, but look: The only actually unsolved thing that has happened is LC getting my role when investigating Michelle.
Nothing else has been unexplained or out of sync, really. It's just that Wilgy and Made had totally insane claims that only made sense in retrospect.
But the piece about Wilgy getting my role is the only thing that is unaccounted for. I don't know if it could be a mod error still.
(And the kills on Jack/TSP, but we have a good guess they were retroactive mod kills I guess)
Who is the first to know a thing, if not the one who pushed for that thing to happen?
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i won't say...Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:36 am Don't tell me Michelle thought I was one of the MURICANS
No shade.
Actually... a little bit of shade. =p
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
For Tutu to be scum she has to be exactly an investigative immune mafia role. I can't say that I find that very likely. In fact, I find it very unlikely.
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I know your language is similar to german, sound similar ^^Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:35 amI see. And my native tongue is norwegian.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:32 amIt's not a dirty word, but as serious accusation it's a thing that made me doubt myself and it's like a hit under the belt in box. Mafia can do this but it's low sportsmanship. My thought at eod was that she would not do this.
But... I explained already...
i didn't know that, what's your native language?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Immune yes, but why investigative?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:41 am For Tutu to be scum she has to be exactly an investigative immune mafia role. I can't say that I find that very likely. In fact, I find it very unlikely.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:40 am tbh i assume everyone on the internet is a MURICAN
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Because she has been investigated as town by Kyle and tracked going nowhere by LC.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:42 amImmune yes, but why investigative?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:41 am For Tutu to be scum she has to be exactly an investigative immune mafia role. I can't say that I find that very likely. In fact, I find it very unlikely.
Investigative immune meaning immune to investigation.
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Isn't this the definition of Godfather?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:44 amBecause she has been investigated as town by Kyle and tracked going nowhere by LC.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:42 amImmune yes, but why investigative?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:41 am For Tutu to be scum she has to be exactly an investigative immune mafia role. I can't say that I find that very likely. In fact, I find it very unlikely.
Investigative immune meaning immune to investigation.
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In what night was that track?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
in my experience, a godfather wouldn't mess with a track resultMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:47 amIsn't this the definition of Godfather?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:44 amBecause she has been investigated as town by Kyle and tracked going nowhere by LC.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:42 amImmune yes, but why investigative?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:41 am For Tutu to be scum she has to be exactly an investigative immune mafia role. I can't say that I find that very likely. In fact, I find it very unlikely.
Investigative immune meaning immune to investigation.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
How many wolves should be in a game with 27 players?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
If Michelle uses her power on Tutu and Tutu is town ->
- 4 bargainees in thread, 4 non bargainees.
- Me and LC does the track/block. LC is protected.
- Scum will have to kill me if I'm not successful in blocking the kill, or else I'll still be around with a block.
- LC will be alive with a result.
- I will announce who I block. They are either confirmed or there is no kill.
We still keep this in balance.
- 4 bargainees in thread, 4 non bargainees.
- Me and LC does the track/block. LC is protected.
- Scum will have to kill me if I'm not successful in blocking the kill, or else I'll still be around with a block.
- LC will be alive with a result.
- I will announce who I block. They are either confirmed or there is no kill.
We still keep this in balance.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I can't use it on Tutuu because she is not in the pollDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:52 am If Michelle uses her power on Tutu and Tutu is town ->
- 4 bargainees in thread, 4 non bargainees.
- Me and LC does the track/block. LC is protected.
- Scum will have to kill me if I'm not successful in blocking the kill, or else I'll still be around with a block.
- LC will be alive with a result.
- I will announce who I block. They are either confirmed or there is no kill.
We still keep this in balance.
And she is very happy about it too
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I think 6. 7 seems too many imo with two 3ps
Also, think the kill on HK points only to one left, really. Due to him being tracked not killing the previous night
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I don't get it, HK is townJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:55 amI think 6. 7 seems too many imo with two 3ps
Also, think the kill on HK points only to one left, really. Due to him being tracked not killing the previous night
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
indeed i amMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:54 amI can't use it on Tutuu because she is not in the pollDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:52 am If Michelle uses her power on Tutu and Tutu is town ->
- 4 bargainees in thread, 4 non bargainees.
- Me and LC does the track/block. LC is protected.
- Scum will have to kill me if I'm not successful in blocking the kill, or else I'll still be around with a block.
- LC will be alive with a result.
- I will announce who I block. They are either confirmed or there is no kill.
We still keep this in balance.
And she is very happy about it too
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Honestly. Maybe this is the day we no yeet. I know it sounds insane, but it may work. We have guaranteed results of some kind next day from one track and one block.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Yes, but he was tracked not killing the previous night and was pretty conf town because of it, sort ofMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:58 amI don't get it, HK is townJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:55 amI think 6. 7 seems too many imo with two 3ps
Also, think the kill on HK points only to one left, really. Due to him being tracked not killing the previous night
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Same.
@tutuu Your mother lied to you.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Is this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Okiii
If i dont accept then alison is yeetable tomorrow provided she isnt hidden in poll
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Doc dodge is possible for the HK killDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 amIs this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
This does make sense to meDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 amIs this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
Could alison actually be mafia lol? Her role could be mafia gambit demon?
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What doc?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 amDoc dodge is possible for the HK killDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 amIs this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.