Alison has a protect if she is to be believedtutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:03 amWhat doc?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 amDoc dodge is possible for the HK killDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 amIs this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
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Wait thats right
Wat did alison do with her doc again?
Wat did alison do with her doc again?
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that gave me paranoia about Kyle, i asked him about alignament, looked genuineDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:57 amOh shit. That is the second time taking someone out of the poll has been kind of garbage lol.
I thought if he is not scum and gave town so many help, why is he alive and if he is scum he could help to make this mess, but looks like a sci-fi thing
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Mafia would surprise me a lot. It would be cool though. But I've played a lot of games were anti-town 3p have overtaken the mafia kill if all mafia dies, to keep the game from stalling and to give the 3p a chance. I don't know if that's normal here, but I've played several such games.
In any case, my thinking right now is that we no yeet today. But we should probably all think about it more.
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Honestly michelles tower is super towny
Mostly coz its too broken to give it to scum
If michelle is mafia they would just make her use it like d1 or d2 to yeet mac or nutella asap
Mostly coz its too broken to give it to scum
If michelle is mafia they would just make her use it like d1 or d2 to yeet mac or nutella asap
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True tbh. I also think she plays like her town self. She has so many posts and I just think she's out of any scum range I've seen her in. On D1 I made a town core of Martin/Made/Michelle. Probably correct sigh
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
inb4 someone calls you scum for suggesting no yeetingDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:07 amMafia would surprise me a lot. It would be cool though. But I've played a lot of games were anti-town 3p have overtaken the mafia kill if all mafia dies, to keep the game from stalling and to give the 3p a chance. I don't know if that's normal here, but I've played several such games.
In any case, my thinking right now is that we no yeet today. But we should probably all think about it more.
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Ive never seen a 3p acquiring night kills to not stall the game but i can believe it, it makes sense with an evil 3p
Ok im convinced that everyone is town and alison is mafia or evil 3p. Only 5 members of the mafia is low but not that big of a shocker imo
Gamea of champioms have historically been scumasded from my knowledge, i believe town has never won one before so maybe they wanted to balance stuff more towards town
All completed 2021 games om the syndicate (well ok not all but a lot) have been townsided imo
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Ok im convinced that everyone is town and alison is mafia or evil 3p. Only 5 members of the mafia is low but not that big of a shocker imo
Gamea of champioms have historically been scumasded from my knowledge, i believe town has never won one before so maybe they wanted to balance stuff more towards town
All completed 2021 games om the syndicate (well ok not all but a lot) have been townsided imo
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The list of who is the least town keeps changing, but not because people become scummier, but the people lowest on the list becomes townier.
On a scale from 1-10 with 10 as most scummy, I would probably rate nobody above 3,5. o.o
On a scale from 1-10 with 10 as most scummy, I would probably rate nobody above 3,5. o.o
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I could always block Alison. If a kill still happens, all hell breaks loose I guess.
Don't know if Alison could potentially mess with a block.
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Looks like I don't receive an answer at the question 'if my ability targets Alison it's redirected at someone else or not?' .
Logically speaking, Alison said her votes would go to Dizzy, but my action is not a vote.
Logically speaking, Alison said her votes would go to Dizzy, but my action is not a vote.
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Nap time for me.
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Sleep well
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I wont accept alisons deal, if she kills a non-dealer she still cant win
Dizzy cant rb coz he rbs himself
But maybe kyle can steal alison power? Or would that not even matter?
Kyle could steal my power or hyena power to veridy it
Well cant steal mine but u know
Dizzy cant rb coz he rbs himself
But maybe kyle can steal alison power? Or would that not even matter?
Kyle could steal my power or hyena power to veridy it
Well cant steal mine but u know
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
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Not ideal but..
Not ideal but..
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Dont u rb urself? Or no longer?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:14 am I could always block Alison. If a kill still happens, all hell breaks loose I guess.
Don't know if Alison could potentially mess with a block.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
I think I will go down with Alison if you do that from the wording of your role. We can't share the exact wording, but you have the same description I would guess. Your action changes the victim of the poll. So if there are ties to that new victim, like me being killed, that will probably still happen, is my thinking.
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You are right. This is the time to solve that paradox once and for all!tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:16 amDont u rb urself? Or no longer?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:14 am I could always block Alison. If a kill still happens, all hell breaks loose I guess.
Don't know if Alison could potentially mess with a block.
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So the one single unresonlved mystery in the game is wilgy getting dizzys role by visiting michelle
I swear its probably like Made redirecting him and then forgetting about it
I swear its probably like Made redirecting him and then forgetting about it
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What is happening if Alison has zero votes on her and I target her?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:16 amI think I will go down with Alison if you do that from the wording of your role. We can't share the exact wording, but you have the same description I would guess. Your action changes the victim of the poll. So if there are ties to that new victim, like me being killed, that will probably still happen, is my thinking.
She said her votes are going to you, not that you are yeeted in her place. Am I wrong?
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It can be resolved in either way depending on how the hosts decide fmpov
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@Dyslexicon she said her redirections work retroactivelyAlison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:35 am Hard claiming Gambit Demon from Shadow Corridors. It's a little modified from the original version but still keeps the spirit of it. Here's the basic rundown.
- I offer a permanent ability to someone at night. abilities are: track, roleblock, silence (can't speak during next day), disenfranchise (can't vote during next day), give a post restriction, thieving (steal the abilities of who you voted for), protecting, bus driving
- If my offer is accepting, they gain the ability, but I can choose one of two options: either all night actions cast on me get redirected to them the next night OR all votes cast on me get redirected to them the next day.
- I fulfil my win condition if the number of people who I've bargained with exceed the number of people who haven't.
I'm gonna offer the same deal that I proposed in shadow corridors. Y'all come up with consensus town and I'll offer powers to them. In exchange I get a free win, you get free power roles, everyone profits.
FAQ
- how do we know you aren't tricking us into some horrible fate???
take it on trust, host read that they aren't going to have a 3P nuke half the game in GOC, whatever. In Shadow Corridors I proposed some tactics to guard against 3P betrayal, you can try those. Yes I know I was mafia that game but my tactics were legit.
- what if the mafia soupkills you???
imagine being a coward and soupkilling the gambit demon instead of trying to go deep and get the power offered to you instead
- how do we know you're not mafia pretending to be a 3P???
my plan is pretty clearly laid out to give me a free win while also helping the town out. I fully intend to have "auto" from post 1 and will be putting in close to 0 effort to solve or influence the game from this point on. It doesn't make much strategical sense for me to do that if I'm mafia, especially since it will become too obvious that I'm lying about being 3P as the game goes on.
- how do we know you won't side with the mafia after you win like the original Gambit Demon did???
Long Con sided with mafia because he was sentimental and wanted to root for the underdog. I am not sentimental. Siding with the mafia after the town gave me my win is pointless. I have already gotten my win; putting in extra effort is not only meaningless, it actively compromises my ability to make further deals in this vein when I roll 3P in the future. It's strictly suboptimal to do that, so you can be pretty sure I won't do it.
make sure to @ me if you want to tell me who your consensus town to bargain is or have any questions/comments, since I won't be reading the thread closely.
U accepted yesterday right? So if u rb her tonight u rb urself. If LC tracks alison tonight he tracks himself. So we cant touch alison tonight but we can from tomorrow
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Dizzy roleblocks Hyena
LC tracks Syn
Alison protect between Dizzy and Long Con
Kyle steals JPICs role (just to confirm it)
Michelle holsters ability today
Tutuu rejects Alisons bargain today
Does this sound good?
LC tracks Syn
Alison protect between Dizzy and Long Con
Kyle steals JPICs role (just to confirm it)
Michelle holsters ability today
Tutuu rejects Alisons bargain today
Does this sound good?
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sure, I mean I'm already confirmed non-visiting role due to LC previously tracking me
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I dont know from who else he can steal id offer myself but he cantJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:45 amsure, I mean I'm already confirmed non-visiting role due to LC previously tracking me
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Steal from hyena.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:47 amI dont know from who else he can steal id offer myself but he cantJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:45 amsure, I mean I'm already confirmed non-visiting role due to LC previously tracking me
but idc if I'm stolen as I have nothing to hide
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Also, I just remembered that martin jailed me n2, I think?
So I should have received a PM that my action failed, but I didn't. The only thing I received that night was the song from ted, so I guess because my voting power was messed with I didn't technically submit my ability?
So I should have received a PM that my action failed, but I didn't. The only thing I received that night was the song from ted, so I guess because my voting power was messed with I didn't technically submit my ability?
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I can't promise
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Like we're gonna chop alison tomorrow dont worry about it
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Stealing from JPIC doesn't make sense fmpov
Me holstering is yet to be decided and I want feedback from LC and Hyena too
Me holstering is yet to be decided and I want feedback from LC and Hyena too
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From someone with an useful ability, and/or someone with not confirmed yet ability.
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I can't, mom told me to not go to the beach with strangers
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I give u this wonderful strawberry icecream
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Oof, strawberry ice cream was there for the start of my recurring nightmare where the demon Kidseomann disguises itself as family or friend but then tears its face away to reveal the true face that kills you if you looks at it and it was my dream friend Brian and his dad came in while we were playing and I sensed something awful and jammed my fists over my eyes as his dad said "Hey, anyone want some strawBERRY ICE CREEEAM!!?" and the demon killed him while I cowered and when I opened my eyes the dad was dead on the floor with blood coming from his eyes and Brian was eating strawberry ice cream and looking at me with a shit-eating grin.
This Michelle revelation (Dizzy you sassy withholder) is cool, I'll play along with the plan of the day. Are we doing No Yeet?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Depends on how michelle's power works. If she switches votes then it won't work, if she directly decides the exe outcome then it will.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:54 amI think we should get clarification in this. It's pretty important.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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I am not the one you need to care about. Go and find mafia. I am weary of townsiding like crazy and still being suspected out of blind paranoia.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:59 amI literally answered. I'm also able to think that far. But it doesn't solve the game if Alison is the one we need to care about.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Oh godLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:24 amOof, strawberry ice cream was there for the start of my recurring nightmare where the demon Kidseomann disguises itself as family or friend but then tears its face away to reveal the true face that kills you if you looks at it and it was my dream friend Brian and his dad came in while we were playing and I sensed something awful and jammed my fists over my eyes as his dad said "Hey, anyone want some strawBERRY ICE CREEEAM!!?" and the demon killed him while I cowered and when I opened my eyes the dad was dead on the floor with blood coming from his eyes and Brian was eating strawberry ice cream and looking at me with a shit-eating grin.
This Michelle revelation (Dizzy you sassy withholder) is cool, I'll play along with the plan of the day. Are we doing No Yeet?
No strawbewwy icecweam.... Chocolate icecweam instead...
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 9]
Self votes dont work but i also thought about it it was funny
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My doc.tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:03 amWhat doc?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 amDoc dodge is possible for the HK killDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:00 amIs this insane?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:56 am There is one reason HK could be killed: Alison is the one we are looking for and HK was not a bargainee.
Why would mafia not kill a tracker or someone they knew had received a pro town power by Alison? This could be the reason me and LC are still alive.
Maybe I'm being dumb again. This game is just really puzzling right now.
Kyle gave me a doctor power and I've been using it to protect bargainees who are town.
Also if it comes down to F3 the mafia probably want to curry favor with me in advance so I side with them.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Protect LC and Kyle
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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Damn girl u write so fast i just click refresh and bam bam bam