One mistake in the beginning, I would argue.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:32 pm Very stupid ending, but fun game!
Town did well overall except the huge mistake in the end. Well done, everyone.
Thanks for the game, Epi and Dunya <3
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Anyway thanks for the game everyone sorry the ending was lame. I did what I thought was optimal to secure victory and apologized to dunia that I wasn't more active, because I think this is the strategy I would adopt if I was a benign 3P like I was claiming to be also.
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I felt bad when I told tutuu not to accept and got [insert expletive]
im surprised only 5 mafia though. But we should have looked into ted trying so hard at the end
I felt bad when I told tutuu not to accept and got [insert expletive]
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When you suggested wanting to kill Alison that final time, I was actually serious about considering going there... I just forgot that the votes would redirect to you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:32 pm Very stupid ending, but fun game!
Town did well overall except the huge mistake in the end. Well done, everyone.
Thanks for the game, Epi and Dunya <3
Was there any way we could have one that final day aside from Tutuu just not accepting the deal?
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Both a great and greatly stupid game! We love.
My no yeet plan would’ve worked. =p
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GG Dizzy, it was a masterpiece watching you get there today!Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:24 pm Not to say I told you so, but I fucking told you so.
Town completing scums wincon by sacrificing.
Sorry for not screaming louder about it.
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Thanks to all y'all for a great game, and I told you, Tim was town ;-)
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maybe if we no yeetedHyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:34 pmWhen you suggested wanting to kill Alison that final time, I was actually serious about considering going there... I just forgot that the votes would redirect to you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:32 pm Very stupid ending, but fun game!
Town did well overall except the huge mistake in the end. Well done, everyone.
Thanks for the game, Epi and Dunya <3
Was there any way we could have one that final day aside from Tutuu just not accepting the deal?
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I will say that this game was interesting because it involved me making heavy use of two tactics that I almost never use as scum: hard afking for long stretches of time and lots of AtE. I do think it demonstrates why sentiment has no place in a game of deception and Dizzy was right to say that town shouldn't be letting a 3P win just out of gratitude or emotion when it might sabotage their own win condition.
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If dizzy had died, Alison would not have won today. If any bargainee had died or tutuu not accepted the deal.
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thank you for this. it made me feel better about myself!tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:54 pm If i get yeeted i just wanna say i appoint JPIC as town leader, i think he is town and his reads are extremely logical and make sense and there is a ton of insight and i think hes massively underrated since he doensnt have the reputation of some of the other players but dont sleep on JPIC he definitely knows whats up
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Yes, you could have voted Michelle and had her switch the poll to me. I redirect votes, not polls.Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:34 pmWhen you suggested wanting to kill Alison that final time, I was actually serious about considering going there... I just forgot that the votes would redirect to you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:32 pm Very stupid ending, but fun game!
Town did well overall except the huge mistake in the end. Well done, everyone.
Thanks for the game, Epi and Dunya <3
Was there any way we could have one that final day aside from Tutuu just not accepting the deal?
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I even wrote “I accept with a heavy heart” when I accepted the bargain. I knew it was wrong. But in the end, we didn’t quite get there.
Only five mafia was a bit of a surprise.
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No exe only works if Dizzy blocks me and convinces town that scum didn't holster (ie. that I am scum).Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:35 pmmaybe if we no yeetedHyena wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:34 pmWhen you suggested wanting to kill Alison that final time, I was actually serious about considering going there... I just forgot that the votes would redirect to you.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:32 pm Very stupid ending, but fun game!
Town did well overall except the huge mistake in the end. Well done, everyone.
Thanks for the game, Epi and Dunya <3
Was there any way we could have one that final day aside from Tutuu just not accepting the deal?
Or, well, tutuu not accepting the deal, exeing a bargainee, those things would have delayed me from winning and potentially allowed town to get there on the last day.
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I don't feel bad about losing this game with all those conditions on Alison's ability and her being gifted the night kill after we wiped the wolves. I don't want to start believing "always chop 3P" as a genuine tactic for the future either. Good game to Alison. You played it right.
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If I was town there I would accept the bargain and turbo the 3P the next day without mercy. And I would be incredibly aggressive/outraged if town didn't do that.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:37 pm I even wrote “I accept with a heavy heart” when I accepted the bargain. I knew it was wrong. But in the end, we didn’t quite get there.
Only five mafia was a bit of a surprise.
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Is there a DVC, or did I destroy the chance of there ever being one with my role?
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it probably makes sense now actually. 5 mafia and two evil third partiesDyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:37 pm I even wrote “I accept with a heavy heart” when I accepted the bargain. I knew it was wrong. But in the end, we didn’t quite get there.
Only five mafia was a bit of a surprise.
7 out of 27. roughly 25% non-town which is usually how much it is
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I would have helped you. I was pisssssed that people didn't want to chop you D1.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:38 pmIf I was town there I would accept the bargain and turbo the 3P the next day without mercy. And I would be incredibly aggressive/outraged if town didn't do that.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:37 pm I even wrote “I accept with a heavy heart” when I accepted the bargain. I knew it was wrong. But in the end, we didn’t quite get there.
Only five mafia was a bit of a surprise.
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I usually am pretty harsh on exeing 3Ps if I'm town to be honest. For instance I exe survivor claims on policy. If I was town here I would have been really forceful in trying to get you to exe 3P because helping 3P win is strictly suboptimal and sentiment is bad etc.
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Yeah, that's probably a good general planAlison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:39 pm I usually am pretty harsh on exeing 3Ps if I'm town to be honest. For instance I exe survivor claims on policy. If I was town here I would have been really forceful in trying to get you to exe 3P because helping 3P win is strictly suboptimal and sentiment is bad etc.
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I thought I would be turbo'd when 112 flipped hostile 3P with a very similar win condition to mine. I also thought I would be mech outed by the no exe plan - those were close shaves. TSP violating the post restriction and getting modkilled (which is what I assumed happened?) was good for me also.
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I accept cash as a prizeJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:24 pm
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Yeah town should pretty much ~never help 3Ps out unless it really really benefits them for seriously low risk. Open setups might work for this scenario, maybe. Closed setups, never.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:40 pmYeah, that's probably a good general planAlison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:39 pm I usually am pretty harsh on exeing 3Ps if I'm town to be honest. For instance I exe survivor claims on policy. If I was town here I would have been really forceful in trying to get you to exe 3P because helping 3P win is strictly suboptimal and sentiment is bad etc.
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I guess I’m as anti-sentimental when it comes to games as you. =pAlison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:36 pm I will say that this game was interesting because it involved me making heavy use of two tactics that I almost never use as scum: hard afking for long stretches of time and lots of AtE. I do think it demonstrates why sentiment has no place in a game of deception and Dizzy was right to say that town shouldn't be letting a 3P win just out of gratitude or emotion when it might sabotage their own win condition.
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I was really sad you guys died, I wanted you to stick around to keep town distracted until I won. I was kinda scared I'd get nightkilled early for being a power role dispenser though which is why I made such a point about refusing to help town solve and being as afk as possible.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:42 pm On the scale of sloonei/nanook mafia team collapses this was a solid 6/7
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I'm not sure. Like if you were telling the truth, it would of been optimal play I think. Big if in a closed setup game, but still. Like if you could of won with town, then bringing you to lylo/mylo is always good for a strong town.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:39 pm I usually am pretty harsh on exeing 3Ps if I'm town to be honest. For instance I exe survivor claims on policy. If I was town here I would have been really forceful in trying to get you to exe 3P because helping 3P win is strictly suboptimal and sentiment is bad etc.
The issue I think was the trust and assumptions town made of the set up
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was that a mod kill? like legit?
if so I kinda feel like that was my fault since I'm the one who pointed out the quoting...
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was that a mod kill? like legit?
if so I kinda feel like that was my fault since I'm the one who pointed out the quoting...
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Yeah we had way bigger problems to worry about with NKs than you lololAlison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:43 pmI was really sad you guys died, I wanted you to stick around to keep town distracted until I won. I was kinda scared I'd get nightkilled early for being a power role dispenser though which is why I made such a point about refusing to help town solve and being as afk as possible.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:42 pm On the scale of sloonei/nanook mafia team collapses this was a solid 6/7
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Well optimal play would be to drag me as late as possible to squeeze max value out of my bargains and then exe me the moment before I won.Made wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:43 pmI'm not sure. Like if you were telling the truth, it would of been optimal play I think. Big if in a closed setup game, but still. Like if you could of won with town, then bringing you to lylo/mylo is always good for a strong town.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:39 pm I usually am pretty harsh on exeing 3Ps if I'm town to be honest. For instance I exe survivor claims on policy. If I was town here I would have been really forceful in trying to get you to exe 3P because helping 3P win is strictly suboptimal and sentiment is bad etc.
The issue I think was the trust and assumptions town made of the set up
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I actually think that helped you. It made it slightly likelier the other was benign imo.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:40 pm I thought I would be turbo'd when 112 flipped hostile 3P with a very similar win condition to mine. I also thought I would be mech outed by the no exe plan - those were close shaves. TSP violating the post restriction and getting modkilled (which is what I assumed happened?) was good for me also.
But in the end I just knew we were all town and nothing else made sense.
I’m a bit disappointed I wasn’t able to be more direct or bossy with it. I’m noisy, but not so directory. Something to improve, but it’s also just my personality.
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We were full on rooting for you by Day 3.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:43 pmI was really sad you guys died, I wanted you to stick around to keep town distracted until I won. I was kinda scared I'd get nightkilled early for being a power role dispenser though which is why I made such a point about refusing to help town solve and being as afk as possible.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:42 pm On the scale of sloonei/nanook mafia team collapses this was a solid 6/7
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BUT more importantly, wtf happened to Wilgy’s result??? -=p
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