Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME tell me what to think

Yeah I'm fine with Marmot

Lc too

Why is chop town

[MartinGG99]

I just realized. Chop is the top living poster here.

[MartinGG99]

Not that I think its really AI tbh. Just surprising.

[MartinGG99]

The guaranteed Enclave role (Frank Horrigan) hasn't used their janitor either. Which means they role-copped at least once if they acted every night.

In case for some wild reason its used on me in the future I would like to note I've already more or less directly breadcrumbed my alignment, and less so my role (the role may be harder to figure out).

[Marmot]

Oh cool, people ignored my case on Martin and are musing about yeeting me today.

[Marmot]

(Not everyone, but most people)

[Jackofhearts2005]

jack why do you townread kyle

Feels Kyleish.

[Marmot]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - CC'd Omega, his takes are reasonable, and I think a bit outside of his scumrange
Urist - buried Omega

Nanook is the one who buried them. Not Urist. Unless you're going to tell me there's evidence before / without the Nanook CC that Urist was going to push them?

The both did imo. I mean, it's a weird situation because neither of them voted for Omega come day's end.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Especially when in my last game on MU a player was spewed heavily and well V by a wolf chopped on D3 but due to an indirect mechanic they got caught on D4 as a wolf despite being spewed so well.

Like spew and dealing with it is too shaky and dangerous to look to as basis for a read imo.

Everything in the game is wifom.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine
ok last one for real
unless i feel like moving it again

I looked into the person you pointed me at, I concluded they were opportunistic in the Omega scandal, and you vote me for it? Wtf dude, at least respond to the work I put in and give a reason for voting for me..

[Jackofhearts2005]

this is i believe the first time chop says made and it's well after all the stuff

a little insight into chop's meta, it's actually illegal for him to have a correct read, that's why he never does it

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[Jackofhearts2005]

There’s probably scum within Marmot/Kyle.
They probably panic voted Martin because Tony was Top Wagon.

I tied the Mac/Tony wagons. Am I teamed with Tony?

[Marmot]

Here's a list of players who have done enough townie things to make me not want to vote them today

Alison - she is presumed Slaver or New Reno
ChopChop - unrelenting attitude, confirmed ability (even though alignment isn't), handled Omega well
Jackofhearts2005 - flashes of contribution, seemed relaxed when Omega was outed,
Long Con - There are things I don't like, but I think his contributions around Made being yeeted look alright
MacDougall - before today, lazy town, today I feel better about him
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - CC'd Omega, his takes are reasonable, and I think a bit outside of his scumrange
Urist - buried Omega


Players I'm indifferent on

Dom
Grogu
TonyStarkPrime


That leaves the following list of people that I'd vote for today unless another good reason for someone else arises:

Epignosis
MartinGG99
Poison
Kylemii
Spacedaisy

What did Mac do today to change your mind?

I agree with the rest of your town list.

(Wish I remember if I townread you in this game or not. Guess I’ll have to dig into you to remember, which is frustrating cause I had a confident town read on you in A game.)

Indifferent list I agree with. Slight reasons to believe Dom and Grogu are town.

(Oh wait there was that whole Mac and Grogu like caught Chop but oh wait no they didn’t thing.... Who went first there? Did that go nowhere? Mac/Grogu probably not w/w.)

I somewhat townread everyone on the bottom list, actually. Town Martin > Daisy > Epi > Poison > Kyle. I’d rather chop in that middle section or Mac.

It was some of the mech things he discussed earlier in the day in response to Grogu and ChopChop.

Tbh, it's not as strong feeling now as it was earlier, I should move him to the indifferent pile.

[Marmot]

I also don't really know why Kyle sheeped me earlier and why Jack is townreading him

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don’t townread Kyle that hard. It’s just a feeling.

[Marmot]

I do know why Jack is townreading him, he said so. I just don't really agree with it.

[Marmot]

The intent I'm gathering from this post is the Martin is ignoring Made's spew because Martin wants to scumread Urist, and he had his mind made up already.

What the hell do you mean by "I want to scumread" a player?

Why would you even think that when I've given fair reasons for thinking he could be scum?

This is what you said in that post:

"D3 I'm basically ignoring for either side because I did accuse you early on and therefore Made could have moved to spew you either way depending on your alignment."


You stated in the post that you're ignoring Made's spew of Urist because you accused Urist early on. And regardless, Urist interacted with Omega quite a bit as well, as I pointed out, so even if you ignore Made spew, there are interactions worth noting.

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine
final answer

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine
ok last one for real
unless i feel like moving it again

ACTUALLY
[VOTE: long con] aubergine
ok i'm done now

Okay what? 13 min left to actually decide who I vote for here?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I hate this game so much

[MartinGG99]

The intent I'm gathering from this post is the Martin is ignoring Made's spew because Martin wants to scumread Urist, and he had his mind made up already.

What the hell do you mean by "I want to scumread" a player?

Why would you even think that when I've given fair reasons for thinking he could be scum?

This is what you said in that post:

"D3 I'm basically ignoring for either side because I did accuse you early on and therefore Made could have moved to spew you either way depending on your alignment."


You stated in the post that you're ignoring Made's spew of Urist because you accused Urist early on. And regardless, Urist interacted with Omega quite a bit as well, as I pointed out, so even if you ignore Made spew, there are interactions worth noting.

Yeah, the ignorance of stuff/interactions after my case/the outting was put down is a fair reason imo.

I've also said before that I don't believe the interactions before then are clearing.

I'm not sure how this amounts to me wanting to scum-read them.

[Marmot]

I hate this game so much

Same tbh.


We need a leader.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

LC i guess let's make that happen

[TonyStarkPrime]

Back for eo— what the heck

[Urist]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME tell me what to think

Yeah I'm fine with Marmot

Lc too

Why is chop town

I think chop's messages are genuine.
I think the whole claim situation with Made demonstrated that the enclave team is uncordinated and not really totally present. This doesn't line up with how chop claimed with the timing and such.
I think there's no reason for him to message a person he's killing. Why not just actually message a townie, idk. I don't think messaging the nk is something the enclave would imagine.

[TonyStarkPrime]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME tell me what to think

Yeah I'm fine with Marmot

Lc too

Why is chop town

I think chop's messages are genuine.
I think the whole claim situation with Made demonstrated that the enclave team is uncordinated and not really totally present. This doesn't line up with how chop claimed with the timing and such.
I think there's no reason for him to message a person he's killing. Why not just actually message a townie, idk. I don't think messaging the nk is something the enclave would imagine.

Why do you assume enclave killed Sloonei

[MartinGG99]

Also if I'm right (which I think I am) on Chop being town

then with GoC ending where I hard-defended towns on D1 and D2 anyone who thinks my town-reads on controversial slots are unreasonable can go just kick it

I know it isn't that simple but I'm quite satisfied with how GoC went even tho it was a 3P win

[Jackofhearts2005]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME tell me what to think

Yeah I'm fine with Marmot

Lc too

Why is chop town

I think chop's messages are genuine.
I think the whole claim situation with Made demonstrated that the enclave team is uncordinated and not really totally present. This doesn't line up with how chop claimed with the timing and such.
I think there's no reason for him to message a person he's killing. Why not just actually message a townie, idk. I don't think messaging the nk is something the enclave would imagine.

Why do you assume enclave killed Sloonei

Is that confirmed?

[Marmot]

I'll just sheep the LC vote because I do think Nanook's town, and Urist is probably town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If we think chop is town then I want to kill daisy

[Jackofhearts2005]

Oh misread that. Thought it said “why do you think Enclave killed Sloonei.”

[Marmot]

If we think chop is town then I want to kill daisy

Tell me where to vote.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm voting for daisy sheep me for the glory

[Jackofhearts2005]

That is, why did they do it, not why does he think that’s what happened.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm voting for daisy sheep me for the glory

Any better ideas?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh misread that. Thought it said “why do you think Enclave killed Sloonei.”

It uh does

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm voting for daisy sheep me for the glory

Any better ideas?

I mean I've seen slanky afk town daisy and I think it looks different than this

The only reason I wasn't pushing it is cause she clearly wasn't teamed with seth

But if seth is town she's back on the table

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ll vote for self pres but I don’t want to vote for Mac so can we get this in order

[TonyStarkPrime]

In the next minute

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We have five minutes and I feel like we're about to lose but gotta keep trying

[Marmot]

Tbf, Daisy was on a road trip for the last week, but she slanked before that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm voting for daisy sheep me for the glory

Any better ideas?

I mean I've seen slanky afk town daisy and I think it looks different than this

The only reason I wasn't pushing it is cause she clearly wasn't teamed with seth

But if seth is town she's back on the table

She’s at least not Enclave tho cause Enclave Daisy doesn’t do exactly 1 thing: try to yeet the player who could only be scum if they’re one specific Enclave role.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Just get someone else to 3 votes please

[TonyStarkPrime]

Or preferably more

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tbf, Daisy was on a road trip for the last week, but she slanked before that.

I mean it's more about how she is while in thread

Idk I'm just trying to figure out which specious reads are accurate I think this is one

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let it rand!

[Urist]

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

Fine: vote Mac

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[VOTE: mac] aubergine and pray

Sorry Joe I love you

[TonyStarkPrime]

Feel like we just lost idk