BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:38 pm
I am buzzed too but that's besides the point. Went downtown to the patios and we feeling good.
Where did you go?
Couple local places. Went to an Irish pub for some pints got some Kilkennys. Went to another place got a 1/2 pound burger with cilantro aiola, fried onions, lettuce, applewood smoke bacon, havarti cheese, and a house salad on the side. Got a steamwhistle pint there.
Oh sure, you'll put garbage like cilantro in your body, but I ask you to do rails of coke cut with glass off the piss & shit of a dive bar toilet, and it's all noooooooooooo, I'm careful with what I put in my body!
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:38 pm
I am buzzed too but that's besides the point. Went downtown to the patios and we feeling good.
Where did you go?
Couple local places. Went to an Irish pub for some pints got some Kilkennys. Went to another place got a 1/2 pound burger with cilantro aiola, fried onions, lettuce, applewood smoke bacon, havarti cheese, and a house salad on the side. Got a steamwhistle pint there.
Oh sure, you'll put garbage like cilantro in your body, but I ask you to do rails of coke cut with glass off the piss & shit of a dive bar toilet, and it's all noooooooooooo, I'm careful with what I put in my body!
You've changed man
I meant chipotle not cilantro. Besides I only rail coke off cut with used needles nowadays!
Something like this. If people say Axe can be town then ok. I believe them. But I'll still keep him at the bottom. I still haven't seen anything from Finger that tells me I was wrong initially.
DoO-- meh. Probably is a villager but does have to contribute reads and stuff.
I suppose Axehole is a villager. And also maybe I'm wrong on one of Alison/Dizzy.
I was curious why Esooa was calling Dizzy a wolf. Lu Ren I think is probably good though. Fingers got better but can still be a wolf. Falcon idk.
Tough game actually now
Tough game actually now...
Was it easier before?
I always find these kind of posts sus, it looks like scum going "gee this game is a real head scratcher"
Why am I an idk for you now?
You're idk because you're not super falcony and haven't done much and because you're making posts like the one I'm responding to.
And yeah....game was easy...then it got hard.
@MacDougall are you more fun on video, or did you just sub into a scum(again) slot that ended on one of those stupid vanity wagons this site is so fond of?
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:19 am
@MacDougall are you more fun on video, or did you just sub into a scum(again) slot that ended on one of those stupid vanity wagons this site is so fond of?
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
We'll indeed see what happens after you flip.
All of the things you listed as good reasons to kill DOO all happened after you made up your mind.
I have a gut read on Falcon being town that I can't really justify.
It was in mafia's interests to promote the idea that DOO/Alison has one scum in it; people realizing it's T/T would have ruined both the DOO misexe and dissipated much of the suspicion against me after, both of which is fairly beneficial for the mafia to encourage. The two people who were most loudly pushing for DOO/Alison being T/T were Lu Ren and Lunchbox, which I think makes them look good; I've largely moved on from my scumread against Lunchbox as a result of the DOO flip, their towntell earlier, and this.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
We'll indeed see what happens after you flip.
All of the things you listed as good reasons to kill DOO all happened after you made up your mind.
Yeah DOO was scummy (to my reading) early D1 and when I pushed her on it she had a meltdown. Don't regret exeing that slot.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
We'll indeed see what happens after you flip.
All of the things you listed as good reasons to kill DOO all happened after you made up your mind.
Yeah DOO was scummy (to my reading) early D1 and when I pushed her on it she had a meltdown. Don't regret exeing that slot.
DOO was objectively towny early on tbh, so her dying makes the game a lot harder even if she wasn't contributing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:33 am
Axe is less townie than before but still town, don't vote him. Dizzy should be the vote here. If y'all want to vote me out for wrongly scumreading someone who literally started posting pages of song lyrics and explicitly refused to contribute then go ahead, but after my flip you should 100% kill Dizzy. Esooa wanted Dizzy dead and was confident I was town and the people on my wagon were mafia.
Nanook also falls into that category but Dizzy is scummier obviously.
I really don’t like the plan of “let’s vote Alison because she was wrong in her suspicion, then if she comes back as town we’ll just vote this person next anyways”
That’s how mafia controls the day and how town loses
Dizzy/nook, as discussed, plus
BK/TSP/splints (the inactives)
Going with my gut townread on Falcon still.
Mac had an okay entrance. I think I can catch him if he's a wolf and will update you if I end up having reason to insert him into the POE. I've gone through my reasons to townread everyone else.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Here's something for you to consider. Esooa wasn't particularly widely townread and wasn't that active or engaged in the thread. She had a couple of stubborn views, mainly that I was town and the people on my wagon were wolves.
She died in the night. There are two possible reasons why this could have happened. One is that she was right and was killed for her reads. The other is that she was wrong, Alison is mafia, and her death was WIFOM.
I know the second possibility is false, and if and when you flip me, you will also know this. Therefore if you flip me you should always take the first possibility as true and assume there's one or more mafia on my wagon yesterday.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Locking yourself into voting Dizzy is pretty weird if he's your scum buddy. You'd be most likely scum in the nightmare world where me and Dizzy are both town, but insofar as I currently suspect Dizzy I don't think this is the case.
You've been making a reasonable amount of effort to scumhunt, out of proportion with the effort put in by the rest of the thread, and your progressions seem natural (eg. I think a mafia Seanzie would be stiffer or more artificial in the way they handled their read on Axe).
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:44 am
My POE would be something like...
Dizzy/nook, as discussed, plus
BK/TSP/splints (the inactives)
Going with my gut townread on Falcon still.
Mac had an okay entrance. I think I can catch him if he's a wolf and will update you if I end up having reason to insert him into the POE. I've gone through my reasons to townread everyone else.
Ehhhh I don't think you can tbh. Not unless I am having a bad day.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:55 am
I'm interested to hear what Mac has to say on the matter.
If you mean this matter.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:51 am
Here's something for you to consider. Esooa wasn't particularly widely townread and wasn't that active or engaged in the thread. She had a couple of stubborn views, mainly that I was town and the people on my wagon were wolves.
She died in the night. There are two possible reasons why this could have happened. One is that she was right and was killed for her reads. The other is that she was wrong, Alison is mafia, and her death was WIFOM.
I know the second possibility is false, and if and when you flip me, you will also know this. Therefore if you flip me you should always take the first possibility as true and assume there's one or more mafia on my wagon yesterday.
My personal opinion on Esooa is that I enjoy her being dead when I am a wolf. I suspect I am not the only one that feels this way. Esooa is a priority for me to NK as early as plausible for a few reasons the main one being that getting he mischopped is exceedingly difficult without outing oneself as a wolf along the way. Personally I find her quite easy to deal with in the early game because I feel she has a personal policy of not pushing me. But as the game progresses she generally reevaluates and starts tunneling me despite my alignment because she is a player that doesn't fear pushing for policyesque reasons. So long story short, I have a very defined strategy for dealing with Esooa when I rand wolf and that is to kill her as early as I can regardless of whatever is going on around me and regardless of whether she is reading me town.
Esooa can be wrong about you but still be an SPK and nothing more.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:55 am
I'm interested to hear what Mac has to say on the matter.
If you mean this matter.
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:51 am
Here's something for you to consider. Esooa wasn't particularly widely townread and wasn't that active or engaged in the thread. She had a couple of stubborn views, mainly that I was town and the people on my wagon were wolves.
She died in the night. There are two possible reasons why this could have happened. One is that she was right and was killed for her reads. The other is that she was wrong, Alison is mafia, and her death was WIFOM.
I know the second possibility is false, and if and when you flip me, you will also know this. Therefore if you flip me you should always take the first possibility as true and assume there's one or more mafia on my wagon yesterday.
My personal opinion on Esooa is that I enjoy her being dead when I am a wolf. I suspect I am not the only one that feels this way. Esooa is a priority for me to NK as early as plausible for a few reasons the main one being that getting he mischopped is exceedingly difficult without outing oneself as a wolf along the way. Personally I find her quite easy to deal with in the early game because I feel she has a personal policy of not pushing me. But as the game progresses she generally reevaluates and starts tunneling me despite my alignment because she is a player that doesn't fear pushing for policyesque reasons. So long story short, I have a very defined strategy for dealing with Esooa when I rand wolf and that is to kill her as early as I can regardless of whatever is going on around me and regardless of whether she is reading me town.
Esooa can be wrong about you but still be an SPK and nothing more.
You may have personal meta reasons to NK Esooa but she was fairly inactive this game and I don't think she'd be targeted as an SPK. Even of mafia saw her as a strong player, if she was wrong on my wagon being mafia, I think mafia would enjoy leaving her alive to tunnel them regardless.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
