Everyone's JOATED: Guillo's Roles (Town Wins)

[Creature]

Meh am I ever gonna find the motivation?

[Michelle]

Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

[listo95]

I think as of right now my biggest "read" would be that Alison and Honey are not teamed together.

[Seanzie]

Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

Ah, so instead of trying to solve me, you're going to accuse me of throwing shade while throwing shade yourself based on things like "kinda" and "ngl"? Cool. Let me update my read:

Really don't like Michelle, ngl.

I did answer your question, with a single word: "no".

[honey]

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Alison
7
24%
Voters: Garden Gnome, Alison, Flea the Magician, osieorb18, MacDougall, lost monkey, EnderWiggin
hollowkatt
4
14%
Voters: hollowkatt, mansnicks, Dolby, Scotty
honey
4
14%
Voters: Scotty, Lime Coke, TripleHaven, Garden Gnome
Dolby
2
7%
Voters: Dolby, EnderWiggin
MacDougall
3
10%
Voters: hollowkatt, MacDougall, Michelle
TripleHaven
2
7%
Voters: Lime Coke, honey
falcon45ca
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
Flea The Magician
1
3%
Voters: Flea the Magician
Lime Coke
1
3%
Voters: honey
Listo95
1
3%
Voters: listo95
osieorb18
1
3%
Voters: osieorb18
Scotty
1
3%
Voters: mansnicks
Seanzie
1
3%
Voters: Seanzie
Nanook
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
EnderWiggin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Garden Gnome
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lost Monkey
0
No votes
Voters: None
mansnicks
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Total votes: 29

The poll now shows a majority of players voting for Alison
She has enough votes, so i voted for Mac
I will think at the second vote later

I have to sleep, is 11 pm for me, see you in the morning

[honey]

I think as of right now my biggest "read" would be that Alison and Honey are not teamed together.

lol very observational..

do you think alison and i are w/t or t/t cos the more i think about their arguments against me the more i think me and her should thunderdome cos i want her to commit to it

[honey]

Honey getting n1 votes is a honeypot of wolf votes. There is zero benefit for town voting there. She is never getting a n1 cap on this website.

Explain your reasoning. Is it because she’s a newcomer?

It's because there are a bunch of people who suspect her still and the Syndicate meta trends towards killing aggressive town leaders, which she is not. Sloonei, JJJ, Mac, Esooa - these are all classic Syndicate N1 kills.

imagine being aggressive when youre immediately put on defense for trying to have a good time huh???

[honey]

I proceeded to townread some more of Lime Coke's posts and the way the wagon formed felt too fast. I've liked Alison a lot here and it seems like everyone else does as well.

Townreads:

Alison
Lime Coke
mansnicks
TH

Townleans:

Dolby
HK
honey

Spoiler: show

Scumleans:

Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie

Scumreads:

Falcon

I had the following questions at this point:

@Flea the Magician - Why shouldn't people vote you for NK immunity?

@honey - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

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@Alison - Why do you feel that falcon is town?

@TripleHaven - Where is your townread on honey coming from in #88?

@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

@Michelle - Do you feel engaged in this game?

@Alison - Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?

@Seanzie - Why are Falcon and Lime Coke paired in your book?

[/spoiler]
i would say probably 25% of my games were mafia 75% were town over a year and a half now :'3

why do you townlean me?

[Scotty]

Honey getting n1 votes is a honeypot of wolf votes. There is zero benefit for town voting there. She is never getting a n1 cap on this website.

Explain your reasoning. Is it because she’s a newcomer?

It's because there are a bunch of people who suspect her still and the Syndicate meta trends towards killing aggressive town leaders, which she is not. Sloonei, JJJ, Mac, Esooa - these are all classic Syndicate N1 kills.

imagine being aggressive when youre immediately put on defense for trying to have a good time huh???

It’s ok honey, I got your back

Back off, evil doers!

[honey]

@mansnicks regarding N0 do you see anywhere in the OP N0 exists? If you did not read that, why are you assuming Honey is telling the truth about N0 existing and that she "saw" dolby visit Gnome?
AND why would town, if honey is town, out that in any way given we know wolves have a soup kill?

yah I realized honey was lying afterwards.

I liked her attempt to bait out soup kill charges and/or reactions btw.
Not so much people role hunting by questioning her though..

I didn't like #60 from honey. Tone was contrived, and felt a little out of place and uncomfortable. #47 is kinda LAMIST, and also doesn't make sense as an opener if you're baiting a soup kill. (If you're baiting a soup kill, you want mafia to think that you forgot about the soup kill and are carelessly outing your role.)

#47

► Show Spoiler

hi hey.. dont claim stuff, there's a soup and u might get eated..

#60

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yeah dolby answer the question..

Spoiler: show

omg that was just a joke!! but maybe we can rxn test dolby if they dont read this first

Spoiler: show

gaming

Idk, tbh - I think they were both just funny (opener in combination with their 2nd post). Trying to be funny is NAI imho.
Tbh honey feels tonally the most pure to me for some reason.

UMMMMMM?????????????????????????????????????

[Michelle]

Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

Ah, so instead of trying to solve me, you're going to accuse me of throwing shade while throwing shade yourself based on things like "kinda" and "ngl"? Cool. Let me update my read:

Really don't like Michelle, ngl.

I did answer your question, with a single word: "no".

What tells you i don't try to solve you? I explained you my one word question and i see you don't understand my intent.. Are we talking past each other?

Post your reads and stop being stubborn

[honey]

Honey getting n1 votes is a honeypot of wolf votes. There is zero benefit for town voting there. She is never getting a n1 cap on this website.

Explain your reasoning. Is it because she’s a newcomer?

It's because there are a bunch of people who suspect her still and the Syndicate meta trends towards killing aggressive town leaders, which she is not. Sloonei, JJJ, Mac, Esooa - these are all classic Syndicate N1 kills.

imagine being aggressive when youre immediately put on defense for trying to have a good time huh???

It’s ok honey, I got your back

Back off, evil doers!

aaah i see someone's picked up that i like a warm pocket >3

[Seanzie]

Falcon and Lime Coke are partners.

Creature should either stop signing up for games with a soup kill or stop complaining about the soup kill.

I think Creature bellyaching about how overpowered the soup kill is, is probably >rand villa for him. Very rarely see scum bitch about how scumsided the setup is.

I don't trust the general wolves habits, is town Creature always so low effort in your experience?

Yes, I am not sure about my read. Should I be? If it isn't clear, it was a scumlean on you.

It isn't a waste of a post for me to express how I feel about a slot in the game. Do you expect no one to voice scumreads?

Why are you quoting a ton of posts but not actually doing anything with them/talking about them?

I expect reads, not shades. Your post pinged me hard because we have no history and we didn't interact at all, and the wording was wishy-washy
For eg my suspicion on Creature is based on meta of multiple games and his lack of content in this game.

I just want to keep those posts in my Iso for later in the game, if i am alive i iso myself to see what i found interesting in day 1- this is a day to obtain infos.

Can you post some reads? a list would be enough.

So instead of asking WHY I don't like you, you say "kinda?"?

No.

That's because i don't really care about your reason as long as you put a 'scumlean' between kinda and ngl

My question was implied, when i asked 'kinda?' i was asking for an explanation for why are you unsure. Because ngl says you should have something to say. In my opinion the 2, the word kinda and the expression ngl have opposed meaning when it's about a read. You put ngl when you're sure.
But this is maybe a me thing, and if i am wrong, my bad

You didn't answer at my question, post your reads please

Ah, so instead of trying to solve me, you're going to accuse me of throwing shade while throwing shade yourself based on things like "kinda" and "ngl"? Cool. Let me update my read:

Really don't like Michelle, ngl.

I did answer your question, with a single word: "no".

What tells you i don't try to solve you? I explained you my one word question and i see you don't understand my intent.. Are we talking past each other?

Post your reads and stop being stubborn

Maybe we are.

I'm not going to post reads just because you tell me to. If I had well-formed thoughts on the game, I would give them. I don't, so I'm not going to.

[listo95]

I think as of right now my biggest "read" would be that Alison and Honey are not teamed together.

lol very observational..

do you think alison and i are w/t or t/t cos the more i think about their arguments against me the more i think me and her should thunderdome cos i want her to commit to it

Early game I suck and that is generally the best my reads will get. Once flips start to occur I can get better reads, but my current very weak read is both of you are town. I would need to try and reread after work tonight to see if that still stands.

[hollowkatt]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

[Scotty]

Honey getting n1 votes is a honeypot of wolf votes. There is zero benefit for town voting there. She is never getting a n1 cap on this website.

Explain your reasoning. Is it because she’s a newcomer?

It's because there are a bunch of people who suspect her still and the Syndicate meta trends towards killing aggressive town leaders, which she is not. Sloonei, JJJ, Mac, Esooa - these are all classic Syndicate N1 kills.

imagine being aggressive when youre immediately put on defense for trying to have a good time huh???

It’s ok honey, I got your back

Back off, evil doers!

aaah i see someone's picked up that i like a warm pocket >3

[Guillotine]

[Scotty]

I think as of right now my biggest "read" would be that Alison and Honey are not teamed together.

lol very observational..

do you think alison and i are w/t or t/t cos the more i think about their arguments against me the more i think me and her should thunderdome cos i want her to commit to it

Early game I suck and that is generally the best my reads will get. Once flips start to occur I can get better reads, but my current very weak read is both of you are town. I would need to try and reread after work tonight to see if that still stands.

Fwiw I liked your entrance and observations.

And I operate the exact same wavelength. D1s are nebulous and everything has to be off of tone. It’s why I almost always vote for no posters.

Tho in a game like this, low posters will prolly be killed so what’s the point

[Seanzie]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

Why do you find me towny? I've done nothing of substance this game.

[honey]

statistically 1 in every 4 mafia sus me (see: jack town) and u know what my experience as town last game was? mafia sussed me off my first post and i thought their reasons were illogical but i didnt want to get blinded by omgus

i'm not afraid of that now because i know im town i know my motivations are clear and the people that sus me for them are doing it in bad faith so alison hk and mansnicks are my pool right now i dont think it's likely alison AND hk are both mafia but i do think it's extremely likely there is 1-2 mafia in this pool

i dont know why people are tring alison truly it just seems like they like her tone and that she's more active in questioning and throwing shade at people for the brief points that she appears in this thread which is not an inherently towny trait so?

[Scotty]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

Why do you find me towny? I've done nothing of substance this game.

Omg so humble
I don’t like this post

[hollowkatt]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

Why do you find me towny? I've done nothing of substance this game.

attitude mostly. Unless you're warping your wolf game to emulate Syn I have a hard time seeing you being a wolf with what you've been doing. It's not the content, that is meh for sure, it's the way you're handling people suspecting you

[Seanzie]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

Why do you find me towny? I've done nothing of substance this game.

Omg so humble
I don’t like this post

You seem to not like anything I post.

Care to explain?

[hollowkatt]

@Michelle @Creature @Scotty why are you voting Ender?
Sell me on what he's done that's wolfy because I've got him as a town read

[listo95]

I think as of right now my biggest "read" would be that Alison and Honey are not teamed together.

lol very observational..

do you think alison and i are w/t or t/t cos the more i think about their arguments against me the more i think me and her should thunderdome cos i want her to commit to it

Early game I suck and that is generally the best my reads will get. Once flips start to occur I can get better reads, but my current very weak read is both of you are town. I would need to try and reread after work tonight to see if that still stands.

Fwiw I liked your entrance and observations.

And I operate the exact same wavelength. D1s are nebulous and everything has to be off of tone. It’s why I almost always vote for no posters.

Tho in a game like this, low posters will prolly be killed so what’s the point

Yeah I’m generally a low poster no matter what and work has made it worse. Due to working retail I can’t really read or post at all while working so that can remove 16 hours every day phase that I’m nowhere near a phone/computer to do anything. Like I’m trying to get better at reading and posting more but it’s hard sometimes.

[honey]

seanzie/michelle is not w/w. if it's t/w it's on michelle to be the wolf. I think it's t/t

Why do you find me towny? I've done nothing of substance this game.

Omg so humble
I don’t like this post

i liked that post



it's 95° and i'm trapped inside so I will not be a low poster

yes this is a threat

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

This was a lie I got distracted

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ok I'm here for a little bit, someone tell me who to sheep

Mac, duh!

Just kidding.. form your own reads smh

Seems unlikely

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

I rescind that read. I forgot he actually fooled me in Bee Mafia with a bus on BK that looked like he was trying to CFD a townie.

Still think they don't look particularly partnered.

How do you know Falcon is an "idiot" (presumably misguided town) as opposed to a wolf looking for an easy misexe on you LC?

his vote on me was so bad and i will have trouble ever moving past it now

hollowkatt making votes that tilt ppl is towny

True.

MacDougall enters the thread, says "Alison is locktown", and proceeds to hard align with me on reads, especially on the reads I feel most strongly about (LC scum, mansnicks town). If he is scum he is almost certainly bussing here and targeting me specifically with the pocket. If he is town then us aligning on reads means we're probably just correct. Example of this happening are: Radiohead, Fargo, PercyKate Crossover, the list goes on.

Either way you should sheep us on LC.

Seanzie
tsp
honey
Alison
th
hk

these are all town. get on this wavelength.

Yuck

Tho I agree with honey. Shes lookin pretty good in terms of vibe.

The other ones are too sure. You best take off your fur coat

I really dislike this post. You've played with Mac before, you know this is how he operates. It's strange to accuse Mac of being too confident in his early reads for forming a towncore, and it reeks of being upset that he's clearing too many people.

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Does Dolby have a habit of opening games with giant walls of text?

Also doing this for now to make him appear

[VOTE: CerealLord] aubergine

You have five posts in the game, haven't caught up or talked to anyone yet, but you're already pressuring inactives so they'll show up?

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

I agree that it reeks- I don’t usually like when people come out blessing more people than the pope. Which is why I am more sus of, say, Triple. Mac’s gonna Mac on d1, that’s a given.

That's what Mac does in many games though. It's not super AI for him.

Speaking of blessings. Who's your top townread and why?

Yea I don’t suspect him in a large capacity because I agree that he does this every d1. But I’m not calling him town for it.

Top townread? Probably honey- not because of the content of her posts, but the content of her character.

Hollowkatt seems to be a town voice.

Your townreads are just bullshit dude.

Guess what comes next?

You guessed it!

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Your townreads are just bullshit dude.

They usually are on D1. Have you played with me before?

Maybe she just has a good read on LC and Ender has tmi. That was what gave me pause on just going with Ender and LC w/w. Certainly not all three wolves right?

Maybe she just has a good read on LC and Ender has tmi. That was what gave me pause on just going with Ender and LC w/w. Certainly not all three wolves right?

You're right that they probably aren't all wolves. Very few wolf teams have the cojones to play like that while under fire and Ender/honey/LC is not one of them. (No offense meant.)

Not sure who the most likely town in those three would be. Probably Ender is the towniest individually.

Does Dolby have a habit of opening games with giant walls of text?

Yes.

I think Ender would have LC wolfy if he was town. I have no evidence to back it up. I just feel like he and I see the same sort of things.

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

Lmao. I'd like to say you're wrong but I have done that. I have a famous bus game back in the old days tho.

I think Ender would have LC wolfy if he was town. I have no evidence to back it up. I just feel like he and I see the same sort of things.

I mean previous encounter was w/t in ATLA but we do have some similar views.

That being said we also disagree on a few reads I think. Also I think LC's aggressive response to Alison comes more town than not.

Now unless Guillo changed the rules from the signups to this thread,

Minimum Posts: 10 posts within the first 24 hours of every day phase.

We about to have some shit go down in 2 hours if the following people don’t post more:
-Creature
-Listo
-osie
-lost monkey
-garden gnome
-cereal

Hi, I'm here. Was having serious issues reading the computer screen last night. I was seeing everything double. That was not conducive to reading a mafia game. So I stopped and went to sleep. Here I am now. I'm going to try to comment on posts and to share a few impressions. I'm kind of behind so please bear with me.

I can't sleep so i collected few more posts while reading

@Michelle @Creature @Scotty why are you voting Ender?
Sell me on what he's done that's wolfy because I've got him as a town read

I remember i disliked all his posts until the moment i voted
It was a gut take and it felt right to start a wagon there
After my vote Creature voted Ender as well.
If Creature is wolf like i suspect, he is bussing.

Can you explain your read?
Also why do you think if me and Seanzie may have a wolf, it's me? Don't you know how to read me?

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

I rescind that read. I forgot he actually fooled me in Bee Mafia with a bus on BK that looked like he was trying to CFD a townie.

Still think they don't look particularly partnered.

How do you know Falcon is an "idiot" (presumably misguided town) as opposed to a wolf looking for an easy misexe on you LC?

his vote on me was so bad and i will have trouble ever moving past it now

hollowkatt making votes that tilt ppl is towny

True.

MacDougall enters the thread, says "Alison is locktown", and proceeds to hard align with me on reads, especially on the reads I feel most strongly about (LC scum, mansnicks town). If he is scum he is almost certainly bussing here and targeting me specifically with the pocket. If he is town then us aligning on reads means we're probably just correct. Example of this happening are: Radiohead, Fargo, PercyKate Crossover, the list goes on.

Either way you should sheep us on LC.

Seanzie
tsp
honey
Alison
th
hk

these are all town. get on this wavelength.

Yuck

Tho I agree with honey. Shes lookin pretty good in terms of vibe.

The other ones are too sure. You best take off your fur coat

I really dislike this post. You've played with Mac before, you know this is how he operates. It's strange to accuse Mac of being too confident in his early reads for forming a towncore, and it reeks of being upset that he's clearing too many people.

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Does Dolby have a habit of opening games with giant walls of text?

Also doing this for now to make him appear

[VOTE: CerealLord] aubergine

You have five posts in the game, haven't caught up or talked to anyone yet, but you're already pressuring inactives so they'll show up?

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

I agree that it reeks- I don’t usually like when people come out blessing more people than the pope. Which is why I am more sus of, say, Triple. Mac’s gonna Mac on d1, that’s a given.

That's what Mac does in many games though. It's not super AI for him.

Speaking of blessings. Who's your top townread and why?

Yea I don’t suspect him in a large capacity because I agree that he does this every d1. But I’m not calling him town for it.

Top townread? Probably honey- not because of the content of her posts, but the content of her character.

Hollowkatt seems to be a town voice.

Your townreads are just bullshit dude.

Guess what comes next?

You guessed it!

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Your townreads are just bullshit dude.

They usually are on D1. Have you played with me before?

Maybe she just has a good read on LC and Ender has tmi. That was what gave me pause on just going with Ender and LC w/w. Certainly not all three wolves right?

Maybe she just has a good read on LC and Ender has tmi. That was what gave me pause on just going with Ender and LC w/w. Certainly not all three wolves right?

You're right that they probably aren't all wolves. Very few wolf teams have the cojones to play like that while under fire and Ender/honey/LC is not one of them. (No offense meant.)

Not sure who the most likely town in those three would be. Probably Ender is the towniest individually.

Does Dolby have a habit of opening games with giant walls of text?

Yes.

I think Ender would have LC wolfy if he was town. I have no evidence to back it up. I just feel like he and I see the same sort of things.

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

Lmao. I'd like to say you're wrong but I have done that. I have a famous bus game back in the old days tho.

I think Ender would have LC wolfy if he was town. I have no evidence to back it up. I just feel like he and I see the same sort of things.

I mean previous encounter was w/t in ATLA but we do have some similar views.

That being said we also disagree on a few reads I think. Also I think LC's aggressive response to Alison comes more town than not.

Now unless Guillo changed the rules from the signups to this thread,

Minimum Posts: 10 posts within the first 24 hours of every day phase.

We about to have some shit go down in 2 hours if the following people don’t post more:
-Creature
-Listo
-osie
-lost monkey
-garden gnome
-cereal

Hi, I'm here. Was having serious issues reading the computer screen last night. I was seeing everything double. That was not conducive to reading a mafia game. So I stopped and went to sleep. Here I am now. I'm going to try to comment on posts and to share a few impressions. I'm kind of behind so please bear with me.

I can't sleep so i collected few more posts while reading

@Michelle @Creature @Scotty why are you voting Ender?
Sell me on what he's done that's wolfy because I've got him as a town read

I remember i disliked all his posts until the moment i voted
It was a gut take and it felt right to start a wagon there
After my vote Creature voted Ender as well.
If Creature is wolf like i suspect, he is bussing.

Can you explain your read?
Also why do you think if me and Seanzie may have a wolf, it's me? Don't you know how to read me?

So part of the reason I'm considering whether or not you're a wolf is your insistence on having peoples reads explained to you, especially when they've been consistently not explaining them.
Like sure, I could probably go find specific posts to town read ender off of, but I'm not gonna.
Instead I'm going to say enders posts are fun to read and I like his approach to the game.

[Lime Coke]

hard to say, i think Lime has potential to be spewed town here by Ender tbh

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

I mean unless you count Pokemaf when you were Misdreavous I end gamed that one. I usually get night killed because I'm typically buried deep in the towncore and I'm never a viable ML. Only gotten mislynched 1 time as town so far.

[honey]

Spoiler: show

Talk to me about this? I think they look compatible as partners if anything.

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

I mean unless you count Pokemaf when you were Misdreavous I end gamed that one. I usually get night killed because I'm typically buried deep in the towncore and I'm never a viable ML. Only gotten mislynched 1 time as town so far.

epicmafia games are a blur to me now so they dont count but u get fearkilled a lot on MU

[Lime Coke]

Spoiler: show

Possible also. I feel like it's a little on the nose though.

I've never seen Ender wolf but based on what I know of his personality and town play I am inclined to think he would be a powerwolf who openly defended teammates and attacked townies if he randed wolf.

How do you read Honey's townreading of LC?

The meta defenses ping me as possibly W/W. When one wolf has to defend another (and the wolves can't really afford to bus if two members have come under fire so fast) and the other wolf has done nothing actually townie (which LC hasn't) then they often resort to "they're in their town meta, trust me".

The exception is this particular line:

i thought lime and th's motives were pure so i tred them for defen
ding me

Which doesn't read like a wolf talking about their buddy. This reads like genuine gratefulness that someone stepped up to the plate to defend them. I'm not sure I see anywhere that honey TMIs LC or the other way around though.

bingo!!! i cant have tmi if i'm town
i dont think i put this part in on my limecoke reads but i was thinking it:

limecoke i have only seen endgame once as scum (rare) - never seen him endgame as town im pretty sure? as scum he gets found out as town he gets fear killed so i wasn't really planning to concretely solve him bc i feel like he will solve himself, ik some people sus him but i dont see it yet so i'm just waiting

my current meta points to him being town bc last game he was scum and very gently sided with me over his scumbuddy when i was towntelling and didnt push on me but it was by no means a shield and the games before that i saw him hard shield passionately like freaking spartacus and he was town

I mean unless you count Pokemaf when you were Misdreavous I end gamed that one. I usually get night killed because I'm typically buried deep in the towncore and I'm never a viable ML. Only gotten mislynched 1 time as town so far.

epicmafia games are a blur to me now so they dont count but u get fearkilled a lot on MU

I know it sucks that the site went down because I want to revisit those games. Now I can barely remember them.

[Michelle]

So part of the reason I'm considering whether or not you're a wolf is your insistence on having peoples reads explained to you, especially when they've been consistently not explaining them.
Like sure, I could probably go find specific posts to town read ender off of, but I'm not gonna.
Instead I'm going to say enders posts are fun to read and I like his approach to the game.

I don't remember to insist for explanation of reads, i asked why do you TR Ender because you asked why i SR him.
By comparing our both motives, none is solid, i have a gut read and you have an enjoyable player you like, which is not really AI

If you suspect me, why don't you ask me anything?

[Michelle]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

[MacDougall]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

[honey]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

on d2 sure

weren't you the one who asked me for links to my past games..?

[honey]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

hope youre ready to cover your hands in blood then

[Lime Coke]

Well what I've gotten so far-

Townreading:
Honey
TH
Scott
Alison

Scumreading
Creature
Mansnicks

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Switching to voting Creature for now because I'm more confident that he's(?) a more likely hit than Mansnicks.

[osieorb18]

I proceeded to townread some more of Lime Coke's posts and the way the wagon formed felt too fast. I've liked Alison a lot here and it seems like everyone else does as well.

Townreads:

Alison
Lime Coke
mansnicks
TH

Townleans:

Dolby
HK
honey

Spoiler: show

Scumleans:

Flea the Magician
Michelle
Seanzie

Scumreads:

Falcon

I had the following questions at this point:

@Flea the Magician - Why shouldn't people vote you for NK immunity?

@honey - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

Spoiler: show

@Alison - Why do you feel that falcon is town?

@TripleHaven - Where is your townread on honey coming from in #88?

@Lime Coke - Roughly how much experience do you have playing as each alignment?

@Michelle - Do you feel engaged in this game?

@Alison - Isn't it a little hasty to only give the thread an hour before declaring that nobody has picked up on your read?

@Seanzie - Why are Falcon and Lime Coke paired in your book?

[/spoiler]
i would say probably 25% of my games were mafia 75% were town over a year and a half now :'3

why do you townlean me?

I got new town player vibes from you, but that might have been wrong. I left you at a lean since I still had some concerns, particularly if you're remotely experienced.

[Scotty]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

hope youre ready to cover your hands in blood then

Counterpoint: wolves have blood

[osieorb18]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

I want to put this up on my wall, Michelle.

[honey]

being unserious does not make someone a new player and it also doesnt make them mafia -__-

[Lime Coke]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

[Scotty]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Counterpoint: meta from other games reflect onto this game, especially in a D1 where all we have to go on are vibes and metas

[honey]

I change my mind I think Honey is a wolf

hope youre ready to cover your hands in blood then

Counterpoint: wolves have blood

my blood is innocent and anybody that comes for me will be drenched in it

[Creature]

Oh well guess I'm gonna be the designated counterwagon to save wolf.

[Creature]

Can we not focus so much on meta from other games and play instead this game?

Good idea

[osieorb18]

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Between this and Falcon for me right now and I like MacDougall a hell of a lot more than either Seanzie or Ender at this time.