The Witcher Mafia [Game Over]

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Great job on the Radish thing, where did the Wilgy red check go?

Also with poison since i see he was/is in the POE didn't we have some sort of info about him from Koba?

[tutuu]

Wilgy and rondo are both mafia

Damn who do i vote for

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[tutuu]

I think that poison is townie on play and mech claims

Sig claims mech that tsp town

So 112 vs rondo

If rondo is mafia wilgy is mafia too

Soo. Hmm.

[sig]

Wilgy and rondo are both mafia

Damn who do i vote for

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

I'm catching up now but care to summarize?

I did see Wilgy claimed cop I believe, if he did I don't see why he'd still be alive.


I'm about 75% sure Epi is mafia, but have no evidence to back it up. Considering the poison role. We had someone targeted N1 and N3, I'm thinking this could be a 3rd Party role?

KP wise town has Desperado, no Night Vig has been used meaning they're either dead or it isn't a thing. I don't think it's unreasonable to think the day vig was a mafia power and Epi is playing it up to be civ cleared.

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And Michelle died from being poisoned?

[tutuu]

The poisoner is mafia 3p makes no sense

According to poison theres 1 scum in rondo, 112 and TSP

Wilgy claimed 2 failed peek and only 1 succesful peek on rondo that hes town or 3p

[tutuu]

If boknows is town it sucks that hes straight up trolling us

[sig]

Koba probably has to be town because he just wouldn't shut up.

Scotty posted a couple posts that pinged me and I remember now I was supposed to iso him for Ted and never did. Sorry Ted.

Nanook is probably town. There was no discomfort in dropping the gimmick and his case on Epi felt too nuanced to come from town. Not that Nanook isn't a good scum who can fake townie things, but that just felt like it was coming from a perspective that's harder to fake.

Epi is probably town anyway though. Dayvig thing.

I've never seen tutuu wolf and I'm wary of her because of that. She was super whiteknighty in D1 and that pinged me, but her explanations for why she townreads everyone's scumreads make sense and are takes I tend to share. Her gang of six is pretty different to eveyrone else's and scum tend to include a usual suspect or two so they have room to help push a consensus wagon if they want to. So that feels town to me. But then Mac post his 'tutuu is scary' post and now I don't know.



Any other thoughts I had whilst reading have escaped me.

First post on Epi

Poison we never finished our chat from earlier.

I don't remember what we were talking about but uh

What are your thoughts on people and stuff?

Hey I have you the read list!

But I think I would like to talk about epi. As far as I remember he was only concerned with koba at the beginning of this phase and slanked throughout the game. I don't have much epi meta, what do you think about him?

Probably town for raisins, though we'll see if that holds water as the game progresses.

But also I don't sense any...discomfort from him when he pops in and out of the thread. His presence is minimal (that's standard for him these days as far as I remember; he has family and work limiting his time I think) but he doesn't seem to be forcing anything. He's poked and prodded a bit in typical Epi style. I don't think he's found a bite he's willing to hang on to yet but it feels like he's searching for one. So by general comfort level vis a vis his presence level I think he's probably town.

Caveat 1: we're never in the thread a the same time and I'm only really skimming his posts upon catch up.

Caveat 2: I think I've incorrectly read Epi's alignment every time I've played with him. Last time was...Bike Mafia I think? I made a big deal about feeling good about finally reading him correctly as town and he flipped scum iirc.

So basically don't ask me, and maybe Nanook is right after all. But yeah, I'd say town here.

Second post on Epi.


MR doesn't mention him at all besides these two posts. Has 6 pages worth of content. I don't want to over split the vote today and as i catch up I'll see what this poison clear is, BUT i'm with Nanook here in that I think Epi is a viable lynch option.

Especially since he's hinted at 2 roles and either the mafia is hella incompetent or blind in role hunting since if I picked up on it so should they.

[Scotty]

Koba probably has to be town because he just wouldn't shut up.

Scotty posted a couple posts that pinged me and I remember now I was supposed to iso him for Ted and never did. Sorry Ted.

Nanook is probably town. There was no discomfort in dropping the gimmick and his case on Epi felt too nuanced to come from town. Not that Nanook isn't a good scum who can fake townie things, but that just felt like it was coming from a perspective that's harder to fake.

Epi is probably town anyway though. Dayvig thing.

I've never seen tutuu wolf and I'm wary of her because of that. She was super whiteknighty in D1 and that pinged me, but her explanations for why she townreads everyone's scumreads make sense and are takes I tend to share. Her gang of six is pretty different to eveyrone else's and scum tend to include a usual suspect or two so they have room to help push a consensus wagon if they want to. So that feels town to me. But then Mac post his 'tutuu is scary' post and now I don't know.



Any other thoughts I had whilst reading have escaped me.

First post on Epi

Poison we never finished our chat from earlier.

I don't remember what we were talking about but uh

What are your thoughts on people and stuff?

Hey I have you the read list!

But I think I would like to talk about epi. As far as I remember he was only concerned with koba at the beginning of this phase and slanked throughout the game. I don't have much epi meta, what do you think about him?

Probably town for raisins, though we'll see if that holds water as the game progresses.

But also I don't sense any...discomfort from him when he pops in and out of the thread. His presence is minimal (that's standard for him these days as far as I remember; he has family and work limiting his time I think) but he doesn't seem to be forcing anything. He's poked and prodded a bit in typical Epi style. I don't think he's found a bite he's willing to hang on to yet but it feels like he's searching for one. So by general comfort level vis a vis his presence level I think he's probably town.

Caveat 1: we're never in the thread a the same time and I'm only really skimming his posts upon catch up.

Caveat 2: I think I've incorrectly read Epi's alignment every time I've played with him. Last time was...Bike Mafia I think? I made a big deal about feeling good about finally reading him correctly as town and he flipped scum iirc.

So basically don't ask me, and maybe Nanook is right after all. But yeah, I'd say town here.

Second post on Epi.


MR doesn't mention him at all besides these two posts. Has 6 pages worth of content. I don't want to over split the vote today and as i catch up I'll see what this poison clear is, BUT i'm with Nanook here in that I think Epi is a viable lynch option.

Especially since he's hinted at 2 roles and either the mafia is hella incompetent or blind in role hunting since if I picked up on it so should they.

Alternatively, his day kill vig shot is the 3p ability and he just hasn’t met his conditions yet.

It seems like the only reason anyone is even viewing Epi as town is mech balance assumptions that mafia wouldn’t have that day vig.

I’d vig epi if we could. Or lynch. Maybe later

[tutuu]

Epi makes sense with rondo and wilgy

If its smth like 112 and boknows and falcon? Id day epi prolly also town with wilgy and rondo

[tutuu]

[VOTE: boknos] aubergine

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[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

I'm throwing it here for now, while I look into Bo later. Though I trust the people on the wagon so its whatever on which one we go for.

[Scotty]

I’d rather poop a bicycle than fully read Rondo’s ISO right now

Which I guess could be a tactical strategy

[BoKnows]

me leading votes is super suspect

[TonyStarkPrime]

fwiw I think epi is playing as he does as a wolf here and think this is 100 percent in his wolf wheelhouse so like eval at your own risk

[TonyStarkPrime]

actually f it then vote : 112

[EnderWiggin]

112/Rondo/TSP should be primary resolution as I think Poison is town

[tutuu]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

I am hungover.

Real time Maf, let's go. Who's here?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Did I hear someone say party check?

[falcon45ca]

Did I hear someone say party check?

Whats a party check?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

[Urist]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.

[falcon45ca]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

What's her claim?

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

wtf is going on? You, me and Ender’s roles failed…

Did anyone’s ability work today besides the damned poisoner and killer?

Any unrevealed roles fail?

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

i don't understand your n2

This is vague enough.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

What's her claim?

Why are you asking me as if you aren't quoting me asking the same question lolol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.

Right but how did we get there

Did she check them all at the same time, at different times, how does her role work

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@DrWilgy whats ur peek

Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.

wtf is going on? You, me and Ender’s roles failed…

Did anyone’s ability work today besides the damned poisoner and killer?

Any unrevealed roles fail?

Yup, so either someone is lying about action failing, they don’t have an action, or there are at least like 2 or 3 jail keeper/role blocker/untargetable people floating

[DrWilgy]

Interesting. I wonder if the Soupkill was more of a Soupnegate.

[Urist]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.

Right but how did we get there

Did she check them all at the same time, at different times, how does her role work

She checked all 3 at once as a single n3 action.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.

Right but how did we get there

Did she check them all at the same time, at different times, how does her role work

She checked all 3 at once as a single n3 action.

Isn't that the night everyone's actions failed

[Epignosis]

Great job on the Radish thing

Thank you! I appreciate the kind wo-

I'm about 75% sure Epi is mafia, but have no evidence to back it up.

[Urist]

Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim

At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.

Right but how did we get there

Did she check them all at the same time, at different times, how does her role work

She checked all 3 at once as a single n3 action.

Isn't that the night everyone's actions failed

Not everyone apparently.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

So...maybe poison is just mafia

Idk this game is confusing

[Urist]

So...maybe poison is just mafia

Idk this game is confusing

Feels like it would be suboptimal to use an ability that blocks all the townies and then claim to not be blocked.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Universal block could be a town thing

Although there was a kill so

Idk

Maybe 112 is just mafia

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Rondo has been obvious mafia since day one.

I beg to differ.

Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.

These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think that poison is townie on play and mech claims

Sig claims mech that tsp town

So 112 vs rondo

If rondo is mafia wilgy is mafia too

Soo. Hmm.

Disagree. A mafia can try to make a pair with a bad looking town so when they go over you lynch a town too

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think that poison is townie on play and mech claims

Sig claims mech that tsp town

So 112 vs rondo

If rondo is mafia wilgy is mafia too

Soo. Hmm.

wait, yes, If I am mafia Wiggly is, but if wiggly is mafia I am not

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’d rather poop a bicycle than fully read Rondo’s ISO right now

Which I guess could be a tactical strategy

It was, but only as an experiment after [REDACTED]'s game in Batman

[Urist]

Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Rondo has been obvious mafia since day one.

I beg to differ.

Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.

These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?

Out yourself more pls

[RondoDimBuckle]

Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Rondo has been obvious mafia since day one.

I beg to differ.

Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.

These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?

Out yourself more pls

Tunnel me more pls

[Urist]

Any particular reason you're not voting for 112 here rondo?

[tutuu]

my protect on scotty worked but that was given to me by the non-town djinn

[EnderWiggin]

Interesting. I wonder if the Soupkill was more of a Soupnegate.

Oh.

Oooh.

This makes too much sense.

[tutuu]

oh yeah

[EnderWiggin]

"5. Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests..."

Also, this fits with MR saying he didn't think there was a soup kill.

[EnderWiggin]

Well I'm probably fucking useless power-wise now lmao.

[Urist]

Interesting. I wonder if the Soupkill was more of a Soupnegate.

Oh.

Oooh.

This makes too much sense.

If that's the case then tutuu is mafia for not getting blocked despite the rolecop.
Which is a conclusion I'm fine with.