Team Fortress Mafia [END]

[MartinGG99]

I got to re-reviewing Falcon and I suspect my earlier tangible reasons for town-reading him were partially based on Sabie interactions and in the light of possible TMI I now am not as certain about that being a good look.

Also was everyone mech early D3? I stopped actively reading the thread around that point. Seems like Falcon was mentioning it a lot in relative comparison to the size of his ISO.

[MartinGG99]

Also was everyone talking about mech early D3?

ebwop

[MartinGG99]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Open to possibly voting Flacon but I think Wilgy is the right move for today.

Might pop-in later to do more ISO reviews & catching up, but as it stands (in no particular order):

Town
Sig
LP
Dolby
Guilo
Marmot

Probably town?
TSP
Mac
LC

idk
NAA
Wilgy
Falcon

[Lime Coke]

Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.

[Lime Coke]

Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.

[Lime Coke]

Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.

No, actually disregard this, someone else might want to decide on what to do mech wise this is kinda screwy.

Ping me after y'all decide what is going to happen, if you have names for me to avoid roleblocking that would be huge.

[Lime Coke]

That emoji shouldn't be there.

Also last thing before I go back off, if I don't end up thoroughly reading through Day 3 and end up with an opinion on the yeet then I'll end up sheeping Dolby since I kinda think he's more confirmed town than Marmot.

Not saying Marmot isn't town but I just have reasoning to think that Dolby has more of a chance at being town by a slight margin.

[Marmot]

I think I'm at

Good mech
Lime Coke
TSP
Marmot

I like
LinearPoint
Guillo
Mac
NAA

Rest
Sig
Martin
Falcon
Wilgy

I'll re-ev my townleans on this day for posterity but I do think they're just good

Lime, idk I just wrote him off as town yday

Hot take of mine is that Marmot being on the Gav wagon spews him town because Gav having votes from three mafia (Marmot, Sabie, Nanook) would be super lol and I don't beleive that's the world

I will admit to being more concerned about TSP now

LP has been the obvious town of the game

Guillo had a really towny D1

Mac and NAA it's just these slots are probably town for varying reasons

Think it's most essential for me to reread D1 and start of day 3

Fwiw, my vote was on nanook in spirit even if it wasn't physically on him.

[Marmot]

like two docs can keep marmot alive indefinitely and that's just too good i think

But then people will wonder why I'm still alive

[Lime Coke]

I'm guessing RBers still alive with 1 mafia member left alive is a better thing? I don't know how else to look at it.

[Marmot]

Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.

Jack is dead so we only have one watcher i think

[Lime Coke]

I'm 100% talking a hypothetical world where we yeet another mafia member today. I'm also keeping positive that we'll yeet another mafia member as well because why the hell not?

[Lime Coke]

Sorry I'm not as active this game like I usually am, but this game feels like it can auto-pilot its way to a win and it's nice not having to try and town wins. Plus I got a powerful role that's going to be useful when we (hopefully) yeet another mafia member today.

If we do yeet another mafia member both watchers be on a RBer to make this easier. Marmot if you want to announce it before we move onto the night phase that's probably the optimal way to do it.

Jack is dead so we only have one watcher i think

Gotcha. Low key didn't fully check his role I just saw he died and flipped town.

[Marmot]

Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.

[Lime Coke]

Has Wilgy actually spoken or has he been doing the weird muffled stuff still?

[Lime Coke]

He's still doing the muffled talking. Yeah I don't mind killing that.

[NotAnAxehole]

I for one quite enjoy @DrWilgy 's roleplay.

[Marmot]

Me too, and there's a decent chance it also hits scum.

[DrWilgy]

Mphahahahahaha!!! Mphaaaa

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: MhMfMh] aubergine

[NotAnAxehole]

[VOTE: MhMfMh] aubergine

This is a good vote.

[NotAnAxehole]

Me too, and there's a decent chance it also hits scum.

It's not impossible, but I think he's town.

[LinearPoint]

Actually, no, I'm an idiot. Both medics be on a RBer and if they're both outed then watchers be on them.

No, actually disregard this, someone else might want to decide on what to do mech wise this is kinda screwy.

Ping me after y'all decide what is going to happen, if you have names for me to avoid roleblocking that would be huge.

Man this broke my brain.
I was looking at the post you quoted like "Man I must be super tired when I wrote that because I don't remember writing that."
It then took me way too long to realize that it wasn't something I typed and was a quote from you.

[Guillotine]

Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.

He only posts when someone sus him meaning he is reading the thread without contributing until he feels he starts getting heat. Sig is mafia.

[Guillotine]

I for one quite enjoy @DrWilgy 's roleplay.

Wilgy reminds me of you in that Mafia Universe game where you roleplayed and you flip mafia.

TSP should have killed Wilgy not Gavial.

[Marmot]

Wim-reads where the wolves are the disheartened players rn points to falcon and Wilgy. Just like everything else

Sig has actually posted today quite a bit.

He only posts when someone sus him meaning he is reading the thread without contributing until he feels he starts getting heat. Sig is mafia.

I reread his posts so far on Day 4, 1 of his 10 post are a response to suspicion.

[Dolby]

If we vote out a maf today, I think medics should rb instead of healing

[Marmot]

Last time Wilgy roleplayed as town (Philo Mafia), he stopped his roleplaying on Day 2 to post an incredible gamesolve.

I could be convinced that he's town, but I honestly don't think anyone could convince me but him at this point.


That said, I'd rather kill falcon first because in case either of those two are misses, falcon will likely have more info to glean from a miss.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

But yah this game is the right move, if he is town mafia will not kill him to keep us paranoid about him, we have to do it.

[Dolby]

Wilgy is voting tsp

I’m like 80% sure he’s only voted for town

[Dolby]

If it helps marmot, I think Falcon/sig is not the team

[Guillotine]

If it helps marmot, I think Falcon/sig is not the team

I actually think that is the team if wilgy is not scum

[Marmot]

Wilgy is voting tsp

I’m like 80% sure he’s only voted for town

And TSP is a sniper, a role that is semi-useless if voted.

[Guillotine]

If @DrWilgy is town, now is the time to break the gambit and contribute, we are at great position right now we two wolves out, playing that way will only get you chopped and if you are town that is the equivalent of intentionally playing bad for your own amusement, not playing to fulfill our wincon.

[Marmot]

Friendly reminder that double-targeting is allowed and medics and protect the same target over and over again

[Marmot]

EWBOP: medics can protect the same target

[Guillotine]

If @DrWilgy is town, now is the time to break the gambit and contribute, we are at great position right now we two wolves out, playing that way will only get you chopped and if you are town that is the equivalent of intentionally playing bad for your own amusement, not playing to fulfill our wincon.

**with two wolves out**

[Guillotine]

NAA seems like a worm on a hook...lots of wriggling about

This makes Falcon and NAA not a team.

[Guillotine]

@falcon45ca @Dolby reads on each other plz

Outside of what I've mentioned re: their switch to Sean's wagon, I don't have a strong read on Dolby. I shall ISO them

Did Falcon got back to this? I’ll keep reading but posting in case i forget.

[Guillotine]

I need to continue voting Guillo unfortunately.

Do you usually vote people you don't think are Maf?

In a game where votes throw off vig shots, yes.

Context matters

Then it really wouldn't be unfortunate that you voted him, would it?

What

You said it was unfortunate you had to vote Guillo...but in so doing, you thought you were saving him from a Vig shot?


Which would mean it is not unfortunate to vote for him?

This actually a good catch.

NotAnAxehole later replied he acted under the assumption that i was town vigilante and he was sure i’d 100% target him if i was town vigilante.

But i remember NAA replying to Gavial something along the lines of “who believes a Guillo’s vig claim”.

So this is a big contradiction from NAA and his action against could qualify as open wolfing.

[Guillotine]

The more i read Falcon’s ISO the less i believe he could be scum to be honest.

[Guillotine]

@TonyStarkPrime why did you kill Gavial yesterday and why didnt you kill NAA on night 1 after that fucked CFD that you were also part of on day 1?

[Guillotine]

Question of the day.

Did all Mafia bussed Nanook yesterday or did they try to save Nanook by trying to get Falcon over instead of Nanook?

[Guillotine]

Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?

[Guillotine]

Nah i cant start sheeping Gavial, that’s just crazy.

Im ISOing Martin next

[Marmot]

Question of the day.

Did all Mafia bussed Nanook yesterday or did they try to save Nanook by trying to get Falcon over instead of Nanook?

Without looking, I'd gander that mafia would bus him, given his self-prez wasn't that strong

[Marmot]

Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?

Fwiw, TSP would have targeted gav on Night 2 to kill him Night 3, so that would have to have been planned in advance

[Guillotine]

I personally don't feel like investigating the seanzie votes because I'm largely sure that what happened was stupid

there was so little discussion around yeeting seanzie (compared to most voting options at least) that I doubt I would be able to tell the difference from mafia and town votes lol

This screams to me like "Oh no! Don't look at Seanzie's wagon, there are a few of my mafia partners of mine here".

I remember this is the post that raised a red flag for me. Disregarding the CFD as stupid rather than scummy is scummy and is probably TMIng some people on Seanzie's wagon town, but who? NAA? TSP? Both? Or could it be that he is calling out his partners stupid for ending up on Seanzie's wagon, outing themselves?

[Guillotine]

I also want Gavial, Guillo and Martin to die.

I'm less interested than any single person being in that list than I am interested in how you arrived to putting all 3 of Guilo/Gavial/Me together

Off the top of my head that makes for a bit of a unusual group considering one of them I townread, the other I haven't really read, and I myself is scum-read by Guilo and mild town-read by Gavial.

Did you answer this MacDougall?

[Guillotine]

Another question. What if Gavial has been mostly wrong but he was right about one thing and that think scared wolves the most and killed him?

Fwiw, TSP would have targeted gav on Night 2 to kill him Night 3, so that would have to have been planned in advance

So the kill is a delayed action then?

ok