GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[DrWilgy]

c4. What's the deal with c4?

Vibes bad, but unsure if scum.

[Belzy]

I find myself at a very interesting crossroads.

I'm definitely dying so I get to just hunt, and that feels kinda good... But I'm dying on a plan that failed horribly and left me powerless.

I wish it didn't turn out like this.

I see scum in Pao, Sabie, and Nutella.

I think Dizzy as well now that I've muddled over it.

I know we have time left. Sheep me after I'm gone town.

How do you read hollowkatt?

[Creature]

Maybe we should try to establish a towncore.

I'll start with Belzy and Porscha.

dyachei, alexa and nutella...

Yeah, you all I won't vote rn

That's like not enough. Towncore should be people we can trust.

We need at least a towncore of players we're not tinfoiling today. So adding someone like Paopan when they're being suspected won't help.

[nutella]

c4. What's the deal with c4?

poop explosions

[sabie12]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Shrugze

[unvote][/unvote]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Somewhat wagon purity somewhat science somewhat complicated thoughts I can't explain rn

It's a bit weird like only Belzy, nutella and I publicly expressed our votes on Seanzie. It looks pretty likely Seanzie was a wolf rich wagon.

I'm inclined to believe there must be at least a few wolves on the seanzie wagon. There was no case or suspicions on him and then all of a sudden he got a ton of votes. Were people protecting wilgy or just looking for an easy mischop?

[Creature]

I find myself at a very interesting crossroads.

I'm definitely dying so I get to just hunt, and that feels kinda good... But I'm dying on a plan that failed horribly and left me powerless.

I wish it didn't turn out like this.

I see scum in Pao, Sabie, and Nutella.

I think Dizzy as well now that I've muddled over it.

I know we have time left. Sheep me after I'm gone town.

Meh

[Belzy]

@Belzy why do you think Dizzy is a wolf?

Because

Dizzy only real case or push was Ender, refused to have live discussion on it, and simply is not uniting town, and also feels linked to Marmot imo.

OH i see now. i thought your answer was "because"

Ender was pushing Dizzy though. I feel like as town it can warp your perspective when you're being pushed on so I don't really see that as damning

@Belzy what is your history with dizzy, have you correctly found him as wolf before?

Laat time he was wolf I raged quit d1. The time before that we were wolves together. The time before that is very long time ago.

Have you mis-pushed him as V/V before or is that your only experience? I ask because I felt your opening implied ya'll had history

I have. My history with Dizzy is aging. So yes to all. In my newbie years including my debut game I was the best at reading him, but the last few years were very embarrassing for me, and I have mislynched him a few times for the wrong reasons.

Ah sad

It has become a Mafia trauma

[Creature]

Guess Wilgy might at least be right on sabie as I don't have any reason to townread her besides a poor Mac sheep

[DrWilgy]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

is that your first thought?

>yeah idk how your take away is that you are wagon rn lol

personally I am also willing to sus wilgy since the one game I played with them I had a confident read that was correct and I like to believe I can read them coherently. last game all wilgy did was shit post with emojis and until he started getting grilled for it and voted for it, he wouldn't let up on the shit posting. kinda feel like he's just shit posting again and won't be willing to interact strongly unless pushed upon

I've been interacting since day started. Where are you?

Sorry by "interacting strongly" I meant having takes that contribute. I feel like most of your posts have little substance and reminds me a bit of that no role game we played recently where you shit posted until you were in danger of being voted off for it

I think my takes are quite fine. I've found two scum and are looking for more. What would you expect from me otherwise?

Hasn't there only been 1 scum flip and marmot was pretty universally toast to the point the vigi might be maf cuz marmot was going out and others have been accused of possibly bussing marmot cuz he was going out. I feel for your take that marmot = mafia, but it was so universally agreed upon that even the vigi and the voters have been questioned as committing to the bit + it's been mentioned that marmot perhaps even requested his team to do those things. I'm not impressed but maybe you just shit post all the time and frankly I wouldnt know better since I've only played one other game with you

...I don't think you know my takes then. I wasn't even playing yet when Marmot died lol, I was just making myself a target.

[alexa]

i don't understand the push on dizzy remotely, however, mac is voting him and i'm paranoid he's a wolf and would bus, therefore i'm not going to defend it much

I feel like Mac and dizzy are diff based on their d1 spat (and dizzy isn't a busser)

this makes me feel minutely better about my dizzy read

[Creature]

Paopan is still bad from voting Seanzie sadly

[Porscha]

@112 I feel your push against town KZA before they flipped and then feeling upset about him dying was weird. Can you explain

[nutella]

@Belzy why do you think Dizzy is a wolf?

Because

Dizzy only real case or push was Ender, refused to have live discussion on it, and simply is not uniting town, and also feels linked to Marmot imo.

OH i see now. i thought your answer was "because"

Ender was pushing Dizzy though. I feel like as town it can warp your perspective when you're being pushed on so I don't really see that as damning

@Belzy what is your history with dizzy, have you correctly found him as wolf before?

Laat time he was wolf I raged quit d1. The time before that we were wolves together. The time before that is very long time ago.

Have you mis-pushed him as V/V before or is that your only experience? I ask because I felt your opening implied ya'll had history

I have. My history with Dizzy is aging. So yes to all. In my newbie years including my debut game I was the best at reading him, but the last few years were very embarrassing for me, and I have mislynched him a few times for the wrong reasons.

ok, i get that. historically i have a pretty decent read on dizzy. i have a ton of respect for his wolf game (and his town game) but i just really doubt he, as wolf, gets the amount of pressure he did day 1 this game

ye tbh this is a significant source of hesitation for me as well

[DrWilgy]

I'll mark my read on Porsche as confused towny.

[Creature]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Shrugze

[unvote][/unvote]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Somewhat wagon purity somewhat science somewhat complicated thoughts I can't explain rn

It's a bit weird like only Belzy, nutella and I publicly expressed our votes on Seanzie. It looks pretty likely Seanzie was a wolf rich wagon.

I'm inclined to believe there must be at least a few wolves on the seanzie wagon. There was no case or suspicions on him and then all of a sudden he got a ton of votes. Were people protecting wilgy or just looking for an easy mischop?

It's weird. I started the Seanzie wagon and suddenly it got a lot of votes. I find it really really difficult for there to not have a wolf.

[Creature]

Paopan, TonyStarkPrime and DrWilgy are my prime suspects on the Seanzie wagon

[Sloonei]

unvote belzy and porscha
[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine
2/8

[sabie12]

I find myself at a very interesting crossroads.

I'm definitely dying so I get to just hunt, and that feels kinda good... But I'm dying on a plan that failed horribly and left me powerless.

I wish it didn't turn out like this.

I see scum in Pao, Sabie, and Nutella.

I think Dizzy as well now that I've muddled over it.

I know we have time left. Sheep me after I'm gone town.

I actually agree with all these reads aside from me. Perhaps we can be on the same page rather than at odds

[Porscha]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

is that your first thought?

>yeah idk how your take away is that you are wagon rn lol

personally I am also willing to sus wilgy since the one game I played with them I had a confident read that was correct and I like to believe I can read them coherently. last game all wilgy did was shit post with emojis and until he started getting grilled for it and voted for it, he wouldn't let up on the shit posting. kinda feel like he's just shit posting again and won't be willing to interact strongly unless pushed upon

I've been interacting since day started. Where are you?

Sorry by "interacting strongly" I meant having takes that contribute. I feel like most of your posts have little substance and reminds me a bit of that no role game we played recently where you shit posted until you were in danger of being voted off for it

I think my takes are quite fine. I've found two scum and are looking for more. What would you expect from me otherwise?

Hasn't there only been 1 scum flip and marmot was pretty universally toast to the point the vigi might be maf cuz marmot was going out and others have been accused of possibly bussing marmot cuz he was going out. I feel for your take that marmot = mafia, but it was so universally agreed upon that even the vigi and the voters have been questioned as committing to the bit + it's been mentioned that marmot perhaps even requested his team to do those things. I'm not impressed but maybe you just shit post all the time and frankly I wouldnt know better since I've only played one other game with you

...I don't think you know my takes then. I wasn't even playing yet when Marmot died lol, I was just making myself a target.

Okay so if you werent even playing when marmot flipped then how did you find *any* scum? You claimed to find 2 when theres only been 1 and you just said you didnt even find the one mafia flip we have had

[Creature]

Paopan, TonyStarkPrime and DrWilgy are my prime suspects on the Seanzie wagon

Damn, Seanzie wagon still makes me slightly concerned on nutella

[Creature]

How many of Dyslexicon's votes can be bussing?

[ilario]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

[nutella]

i don't understand the push on dizzy remotely, however, mac is voting him and i'm paranoid he's a wolf and would bus, therefore i'm not going to defend it much

I feel like Mac and dizzy are diff based on their d1 spat (and dizzy isn't a busser)

this makes me feel minutely better about my dizzy read

I'm considering flipping over to Mac w, it seems cool and hip (and i do kinda have concerns he's fooling me with play style and tmi stuff similarly to how he did in shots mash)

[ilario]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

is that your first thought?

Yes. Why is that even a question ?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why would that be your first thought?

[Belzy]

How many of Dyslexicon's votes can be bussing?

Are we really discussing those votes as potentially bussing? It's only bussing when EOD is nearing and that vote actual matters.

[alexa]

i've played 4 games with dizzy. 3 as me wolf/him V, and one as V/V. i also spectated a W game of his. i feel like i've in general gotten a grasp on how he plays from this, and i've said he's one of the best people at reading me (i n1ed or n2ed him in the last game i was a wolf) and feel like we've gotten a general understanding of each other.

w!dizzy is extremely pockety and savvy, and generally cheery, and lacks the same level of emotion/passion behind his reads that he does as V. his whole series of posts about feeling bad about the push on him day 1 yesterday just felt extremely like what i recalled from him as villager. as a wolf he generally tries to veer away from those types of posts and just approaches the same completely differently. so yeah i've rr them last night because i don't want an egg in my face but i really think he's a villager here.

[Porscha]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

is that your first thought?

Yes. Why is that even a question ?

I skipped a few pages of posts but how many votes do you have on you atm ilario. Who is talking about you besides alexa

[alexa]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

because i need to be sure

[c4e5g3d5]

Village:
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
dyachei
Dyslexicon
Guillotine (mech, not saying)
Master Radishes
nutella

Some Village Pings but Could Go Either Way
hollowkatt
112
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
ilario (mainly getting nervous by his absence but will probably ultimately move him up, idk)
TonyStarkPrime
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
falcon45ca

Wolves
Paopan
DrWilgy
sabie12
sig
Sloonei

hk and Jpic are town
Apparently people don't get my hk read but the Jpic read is just, every single post seems like blatant town. Maybe I have to claim a godread or something, but... could other folks take a look on their own to confirm? Don't wanna feel like one of two people who's even looked at the guy while we're talking about him thanks.

Think Pao should be bumped up

[alexa]

also i literally have been defending you but im not going 100% to bat when im not completely sure lol

[Belzy]

It's 3:30 am and battery 4%

[c4e5g3d5]

Finish this sentence:

Hollowkatt is town because...

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.

Plagiarized from myself.

Bruh tf does this mean

I'm pretty sure you know what all of those words mean. hk's been giving good and hard thoughts about the game in a not performative way.

[Belzy]

So good night

[ilario]

Why would that be your first thought?

I’m gonna ignore this because it’s a pretty dumb question to ask. I’m disappointed in you if you’re town lol

[ilario]

Now I’m gonna get fossed by 3-4 level 0 players claiming that post was ate when it’s not

[alexa]

Village:
alexa
Belzy
c4e5g3d5
Creature
dyachei
Dyslexicon
Guillotine (mech, not saying)
Master Radishes
nutella

Some Village Pings but Could Go Either Way
hollowkatt
112
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
ilario (mainly getting nervous by his absence but will probably ultimately move him up, idk)
TonyStarkPrime
Phil and Gloria
Porscha
falcon45ca

Wolves
Paopan
DrWilgy
sabie12
sig
Sloonei

hk and Jpic are town
Apparently people don't get my hk read but the Jpic read is just, every single post seems like blatant town. Maybe I have to claim a godread or something, but... could other folks take a look on their own to confirm? Don't wanna feel like one of two people who's even looked at the guy while we're talking about him thanks.

Think Pao should be bumped up

that's fine, i townread both HK and JPIC, only dropped them due to recency bias/strength

why do you think pao should be bumped?

[Sloonei]

Finish this sentence:

Hollowkatt is town because...

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.

Plagiarized from myself.

Bruh tf does this mean

I'm pretty sure you know what all of those words mean. hk's been giving good and hard thoughts about the game in a not performative way.

Name three suspects.

[ilario]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

because i need to be sure

What makes you unsure

[ilario]

Ngl Alexa that response was very scummy there’s no reason for you to be unsure here and town you would know it’s important to keep me alive

[alexa]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

because i need to be sure

What makes you unsure

because you haven't been posting at all/invested in the same way i usually see from you as V

[Creature]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella

Finding really hard for those to be all town

[Creature]

Oh wait FF8000 is not green?

[ilario]

@ilario where is your head at with the game rn?

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

because i need to be sure

What makes you unsure

because you haven't been posting at all/invested in the same way i usually see from you as V

Lmao are u scum because that reason is very pingu and u know I’m busy irl ever since uni started

And yeah I’m not invested but my reads were still better than everyone else’s lmao, so yeah why would u not keep me alive for that reason alone

[alexa]

Ngl Alexa that response was very scummy there’s no reason for you to be unsure here and town you would know it’s important to keep me alive

???? wdym keep you alive

obviously i want you alive. that doesn't mean i feel 100% certain on your alignment right now. how is that scummy?

[Creature]

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella

Finding really hard for those to be all town

Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella

[ilario]

Because I’m a wagon when I shouldn’t be

[alexa]

idk i just opened the thread,
why am i a wagon?

nice timing

idk tbh

Why aren’t u defending me?

because i need to be sure

What makes you unsure

because you haven't been posting at all/invested in the same way i usually see from you as V

Lmao are u scum because that reason is very pingu and u know I’m busy irl ever since uni started

And yeah I’m not invested but my reads were still better than everyone else’s lmao, so yeah why would u not keep me alive for that reason alone

LMAO what???????? YOUR READS WERE BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE'S ? WTF EVEN WERE YOUR READS?

and you have literally used the "im busy with uni" excuse to a tee from me as scum, how am i supposed to know that?????????????

[alexa]

Because I’m a wagon when I shouldn’t be

that's not my fault and i fought against it before

[Creature]

@alexa
@Creature
@Dyslexicon
@EnderWiggin
@falcon45ca
@sabie12
@Seanzie

Please stop posting in thread and check your hub channels, event is about to begin!

I suppose at least one wolf should also have joined the event

alexa
Creature
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
sabie12
Seanzie