Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am
Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
Yeah, I don’t see it specifically as scummy.
It’s just difficult to switch viewpoints from the common assumption that you are the elephant with a colorful hat in the room
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am
Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
Yeah, I don’t see it specifically as scummy.
It’s just difficult to switch viewpoints from the common assumption that you are the elephant with a colorful hat in the room
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:04 pm[VOTE:
marmot] auberginemarmot deciding to give a damn about the game now vs any time in the last 2 game days is interesting. Lets do this:
It's incredibly sus, and makes me think even more that he's Jester
Like he's not aware that getting involved now is gonna look scummy
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am
Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am
Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed
I'd suggest you start looking for the wolf then instead of continuing to make the argument that I'm jester
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:36 am
Also, just to add, the argument that me putting in a bunch of effort on Day 3 after a wolf flip is suspicious isn't a good AI argument (which both falcon and hk are doing), because it assumes town wouldn't do such a thing, but town would do such a thing.
I mean, if I think you're Jester & therefore don't want you flipped, I don't see why Town would be bothered? Yet you seem a touch flummoxed
I'd suggest you start looking for the wolf then instead of continuing to make the argument that I'm jester
I am voting for Nook, who I feel is wolfy. Does that count?
If wolves NK the jester I think town just wins here
if wolves NK town though jester becomes kingmaker and decides if wolves or town wins. basically wolf and jester can hard out and force a tie which rands the chop which is as close to fulfilling the jester win con as I think they're going to get and gives wolves a 50/50 to win the game right there.
NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm
NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If wolves NK the jester I think town just wins here
if wolves NK town though jester becomes kingmaker and decides if wolves or town wins. basically wolf and jester can hard out and force a tie which rands the chop which is as close to fulfilling the jester win con as I think they're going to get and gives wolves a 50/50 to win the game right there.
Fortunately the host accounted for that in the rules, the Jester's vote counts for 0 in a tie in F4 (and only F4, not F3), if the Jester is not one of the players being elimmed.
So the Jester can't play Kingmaker in the situation you described, which is nice.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm
NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If you're Jester *shrug*
If you're town, Jester is not voting you.
I mean if I'm jester the game ends with my chop so good for me I guess?
I'm not sure that HK town = jester not voting for me. Jester wants to look bad enough to be a possible push right?
Nanook being the doctor is probably the best case scenario right now, because if we go to N3, mafia have to choose to kill him to make the POE much smaller, or kill someone else and risk a successful protect.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 2:54 pm
NAA, what do you think of me clearing Falcon here from being godfather?
I know I said spewed town but then realized wolves don't know who the jester is so I'm walking that part back, but I do think they're not the GF
If you're Jester *shrug*
If you're town, Jester is not voting you.
I mean if I'm jester the game ends with my chop so good for me I guess?
I'm not sure that HK town = jester not voting for me. Jester wants to look bad enough to be a possible push right?
That's why I'm putting in a townie amount of effort to counter the notion that Jester would want to look bad right now.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol
Neither my bro!
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:21 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I've been trying to out that you're PR all game, and nobody has killed you yet, so you don't have to vote me over it.
Which is funny considering I’m the doctor
Can't decide if this is a jester or mafia claim lol
Scotty has been actively claiming Jester, his vote on HK shows that Scotty town reads HK.
The town finally captured him. The godfather. They had found letters in his house that suggested orders given to the mafia, a number of weapons and a set of old looking fedoras and suits, the kind a mafia boss would wear. Besides, "great and fearsome"? What kind of person boasts that title besides the most horrible criminal?
They took the man to the execution platform, and out his neck on the gallow. The crowd surrounded him, waiting to see another execution, just like they had seen his goon's yesterday. They cut the rope, and his head hanged.
But then, it turned out just the head was hanging. And it was actually a mask, with the man himself slipping out of it, as some kind of magic trick. And as soon as they looked to him, they saw the worst visage ever. A clown.
He ran away, laughing, telling dumb jokes, and pressing his own nose to make funny noises.
They would soon find out the weapons in his house were fake ones who shot confetti, the letters were all fake too and the suits had been rented the previous night. After that, the real gofather said "screw it, this town is dumb" and left. The villagers, demoralized, went back home to watch TV. The town would never recover their pride again after that ridiculous day.