Hot Fuzz Mafia [GAME OVER]

[robyn]

Falcon could be a wolf with anyone, technically.

I'm switching back to NANOOK but @lucy ig you being town would mean Sabi probably just pushed villagers

AND TRing SCUM

[obscurity]

I need to re-ISO Falcon

The impression I took away from his ISO was him saying "I know inactivity is usually my scumtell but guys, I swear I'm town."

[Jackofhearts2005]

Pyxxy why does your first letters keep cutting off?

Maybe their computer is super old and Pxxy is tying too fast for it to handle.

[obscurity]

Falcon could be a wolf with anyone, technically.

I'm switching back to NANOOK but @lucy ig you being town would mean Sabi probably just pushed villagers

AND TRing SCUM

Don't know, thus far she's mainly townread Scotty/Wilgy and Scotty flipped town

[pyxxy]

But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.

what is your definition of wishywashy

i don't see wishywashy

a man is capable of holding more than a thought at a time

e-reading schia

okay, that's fair, wishywashy is the wrong word

the vibe that I'm getting from your anne answer though is that you're not willing to commit saying anything

to take a step back here, my point about the anne question isn't that it's not valid (which is why i answered it), it's that it's the sort of question that reads like it was asked for the sake of asking a question, not for the sake of solving

like, you said i haven't done much since dropping a "big catchup" post (sorry, nothing personal, i just find this wording really funny given what it's actually referring to) when really i haven't had a substantial presence at all this game - even said catchup post was just page-by-page impressions, very little actual synthesis.

i have a very hard time taking "what other things? what more urgent lines of inquiry?" seriously because like...
low content slot, middling levels of investment, EOD vote record looks weird at a glance. there are all kinds of ways to unpack that.

but "what does schia think about anne?" is certainly one of them i guess!

"it's the sort of question that reads like it was asked for the sake of asking a question, not for the sake of solving"
honestly asking you literally anything would help solve your slot because you've posted so few thoughts, so I don't know why this particular question irked you the wrong way

re: "what other things? what more urgent lines of inquiry?"
I'm trying to politely request to hear what's on your mind.

Town leans, scum leans, things you found weird? A valid response is "I'm not that invested". That also tells me something about you

"there are all kinds of ways to unpack that."
You're picking at the way I phrased things instead of trying to talk with me. Which I kind of interpret as a bad faith interaction.

You did the same thing with DrWigly's vote on you.

Maybe here's another question for you? How do you feel about your own voting record? And deciding to re-up your vanity wagon for most of today?

Do you think that your votes are very towny and that you should be read as such for them?

[Creature]

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I can do Jack or anne today.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think I'm over postcap so I'm gonna shut up now. If I get yeeted because I can't post because I burned my post count on jokes and joke appreciation, I'm very sorry.

[pyxxy]

Pyxxy why does your first letters keep cutting off?

ucy entered the game with

ello

and I thought it would be funny to keep up the no first letter gimmick for the entire game

[robyn]

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I can do Jack or anne today.

hot
also what’s my current post count

[Creature]

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I can do Jack or anne today.

I think both are likely wolves.

I have a preference for Jack because we need to sort yesterday's wagons. If Jack and Lily were v/v then why were the wolves all on Lilypetal and not a single one on Jack?

[obscurity]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

[obscurity]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

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[Porscha]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

add Porcha

pocket denied weird posts

[DrWilgy]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Let's say I'm wrong and Falcon is a wolf. Who is Falcon's partner in that much easier world?

I think it'd clear creature at least.

When I say easier, I mean for more so understanding the threadstate. It seems we are struggling to form a towncore, an afk wolf may be the reason why we are casting our net too wide.

[obscurity]

what's weird?

[robyn]

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

[Porscha]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

add Porcha

the colored parts are the weird parts

[Creature]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

[obscurity]

we're in a 3 VS. 12 situation so i'm not too concerned about weeding out the POE, but i've been saying all day i think Jack will flip town.

anne i had to comb back over earlier but eh she's still good.

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

the fuck i'm not answering that

[DrWilgy]

Fuck man. I keep getting logged out everytime I try to post. This is the 5th attempt for this one.

Cookies may be fucked on my mobile or something.

[Creature]

If you all derail the Jack wagon onto a townie again please chainlynch Jack and anne the next two days. No questions asked.

[obscurity]

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

tbh.

also yeah Falcon could be mafia.

my top townreads are now Wilgy/Schiavetto/Anne/Jack.

B)

add Porcha

the colored parts are the weird parts

i saw Creature pushing something that i'm coming to largely not agree with which made me suspicious.

and falcon's being talked about so i ISO'd him. the rest of the reads i've chattered about and gone back and forth with (on some ends) throughout the day. i've also expressed that i'm essentially "redo'ing" my reads today and upping the bar for what i consider townyness so that was reflective.

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

the most convincing part of this is Mac but Jack claimed Mac pushes him every game

[robyn]

creatures arguments are good, ima give jack my vote

[pyxxy]

didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe

I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.

ait a second

How come sabi said "I tracked anne N1." and not "I tracked you N1."

This is a response to anne after all.

Was this written with the thread audience in mind instead of the person who asked the question? Am I overthinking this?

[Porscha]

didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe

I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.

ait a second

How come sabi said "I tracked anne N1." and not "I tracked you N1."

This is a response to anne after all.

Was this written with the thread audience in mind instead of the person who asked the question? Am I overthinking this?

no it's a decent question to ask imo. keep the tinfoil hat on forever

[obscurity]

w/e Creature still town. pyxxy too.

jury's out on lucy, i go back and forth.

[Porscha]

creatures arguments are good, ima give jack my vote

yeah that's what i'm leaning towards doing right now

[pyxxy]

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

hy are you pushing this again after we all ignored you bringing it up like an hour ago

[falcon45ca]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Engage me baby

[Porscha]

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

hy are you pushing this again after we all ignored you bringing it up like an hour ago

probs cuz she's difference checking his role and I was also surprised it was entirely ignored

[Porscha]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Engage me baby

is jack a wolf

[pyxxy]

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

hy are you pushing this again after we all ignored you bringing it up like an hour ago

probs cuz she's difference checking his role and I was also surprised it was entirely ignored

hat does difference checking mean? Thought I understood but this usage feels different. Feel free to link me to a wiki to read or w/e.

Gotta do irl things for a bit but I'll be back around EOD. I think I'm also actually getting up in my post count so gotta be more conservative.

I am also going to switch to voting [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now, because I think a lot of you are stuck wanting his flip. Sorry Jack. I watched a bunch of Miz highlights because of you, gr8 heel. I think you're town but not strongly enough to not vote for you for the sake of town, if that makes sense? Anyways ttyl.

[obscurity]

"difference checking a role" is not a thing. she is just being anti-town when we're objectively in a good place mechanically with masons hidden so the fuck if i'm answering that.

wait do i only have like 4 most posts, i thought i had 14 D<

[falcon45ca]

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Engage me baby

is jack a wolf

I've no idea.


I'll do a quick ISO, I'm famous for them

[obscurity]

and yeah my thought on jack is he will flip town but i don't oppose his flip if only to advance the game at this point.

[Porscha]

@obscurity you’re mason correct?

hy are you pushing this again after we all ignored you bringing it up like an hour ago

probs cuz she's difference checking his role and I was also surprised it was entirely ignored

hat does difference checking mean? Thought I understood but this usage feels different. Feel free to link me to a wiki to read or w/e.

Gotta do irl things for a bit but I'll be back around EOD. I think I'm also actually getting up in my post count so gotta be more conservative.

I am also going to switch to voting [VOTE: Jack] aubergine for now, because I think a lot of you are stuck wanting his flip. Sorry Jack. I watched a bunch of Miz highlights because of you, gr8 heel. I think you're town but not strongly enough to not vote for you for the sake of town, if that makes sense? Anyways ttyl.

I used it in a kind of a weird way since it was about roles and not players, but ie. if I say there is a difference check between jack and wilgy, it means that one of them is wolf and the other isnt. lucy said she believes obscurity to be either mason or mafia, so I applied the term to his role instead of comparing to another player.

[Schiavetto]

wigly/anne/obscurity
is a team i see

take me there, paint me a picture

[Schiavetto]

poke poke [VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

btw I asked how you felt about anne, schia, because in my mind there's really only two ways to read her slot, either her flipping sabi was a planned scum play, or it wasn't and anne should be conf!town. I think there is actually an argument for both, given Sabi didn't post for like ~8 hours or something yet managed to respond to anne's snipe in 6 minutes flat. Which to me hints at...and I'm still new so I don't know squat about setups...but could there be a daychat for mafia? Someone tell me I'm loony.

But being wishywashy on anne to me feels like you're not invested in the game, which makes sense if you're scum and the miskills are flowing and so you haven't had to pay any attention to what's actually going on. So up you go.

what is your definition of wishywashy

i don't see wishywashy

a man is capable of holding more than a thought at a time

this is so darksided lmao
nd yet you seemed incapable of posting any of them until prodded but votes on you?

[Schiavetto]

Actually I thought there was a comment Anne made early game when I ISO'd last night that looked good and a couple unpaired things with Sabi that were pretty strong but I'm annoyed she's supposed to be an S tier player and doing Jack shit

've been interpreting this behavior as her not wanting to be the NK so that she can carry us on her back and win the lategame o7 and I for one am willing to let it happen o7

flawed logic, she’d be fear killed by now
over rondo and scotty
i’m going to school now, pyxxy read rondo’s legacy again but assume it’s shit and that there’s scum mostly at the top and it’s very favorable for scum

ight, so anne's either scum, or scum is convinced that attempting to NK her is a bad idea (which is why I asked schia about anne's lot. like I said, this feels like an obvious conclusion about anne's slot, and so avoiding saying anything about anne's slot is weird.)

(but I need to re-read all of schia's responses from while I was asleep/offline! only fair)

lol. lmao.

[DrWilgy]

I have 19 left so I gotta be abit conservative

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I can do Jack or anne today.

I think both are likely wolves.

I have a preference for Jack because we need to sort yesterday's wagons. If Jack and Lily were v/v then why were the wolves all on Lilypetal and not a single one on Jack?

Again, I don't like your conclusion that all the wolves were on Lily. Seems very jump the gun.

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

Again, why does a save on Jack have to be 5 wolves over?

didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe

I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.

ait a second

How come sabi said "I tracked anne N1." and not "I tracked you N1."

This is a response to anne after all.

Was this written with the thread audience in mind instead of the person who asked the question? Am I overthinking this?

No, I like this a lot.

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Engage me baby

I tried earlier my guy, where are my responses?

~~~

Maybe I'm tilted to much towards trying to understand the threadstate more so than the players. I just still don't see how Jack wolf nks Rondo instead of Creature.

Falcon/Schia I think are way better yeets than Jack right now. Even Nook I think feels a better yeet than Jack.

[Schiavetto]

wigly/anne/obscurity
is a team i see

Idk how a Wilgy/Obscurity team makes sense.

yeah like it's the sort of solve where independently i could understand the possible rationale but idk what prompts someone to go "oh hm this could be a thing"

[Creature]

I think I'm over postcap so I'm gonna shut up now. If I get yeeted because I can't post because I burned my post count on jokes and joke appreciation, I'm very sorry.

Ftr I counted 45 posts from Jack today and postcap is 80.

[falcon45ca]

The wolfiest part of Jack's ISO is that it's too towny

[obscurity]

yeah maybe drop Anne from my towns & that statement was a bit bold.

schia/Wilgy/Porcha i do all townread. falcon suspicious.

[falcon45ca]

I have 19 left so I gotta be abit conservative

@Creature why are you going jack again, i’m much more confident in wigly/anne flips

I can do Jack or anne today.

I think both are likely wolves.

I have a preference for Jack because we need to sort yesterday's wagons. If Jack and Lily were v/v then why were the wolves all on Lilypetal and not a single one on Jack?

Again, I don't like your conclusion that all the wolves were on Lily. Seems very jump the gun.

how long are you going to use that stale argument before you're just a wolf, Creature?

I'll use it until Jack flips or is mech cleared somehow. The Lilypetal wagon yesterday was extremely wolfy and I feel like its motovation was to save wolf!Jack.

If that's not convincing you on wolf!Jack:
- Jack seemed mostly worried about how he looked than solving.
- Jack's play here is not matching King of the Hill.
- Mac was wolfreading Jack with an actual tell.
- Mac would say we should always sort the counterwagon.

Again, why does a save on Jack have to be 5 wolves over?

didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe

I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.

ait a second

How come sabi said "I tracked anne N1." and not "I tracked you N1."

This is a response to anne after all.

Was this written with the thread audience in mind instead of the person who asked the question? Am I overthinking this?

No, I like this a lot.

And that is if not Falcon. If Falcon the game gets much easier.

Engagement reading Falcon hasn't been wrong so far this year.

Engage me baby

I tried earlier my guy, where are my responses?

~~~

Maybe I'm tilted to much towards trying to understand the threadstate more so than the players. I just still don't see how Jack wolf nks Rondo instead of Creature.

Falcon/Schia I think are way better yeets than Jack right now. Even Nook I think feels a better yeet than Jack.

Sorry, I don't recall being asked questions. I'm here dude, what's up?

[Porscha]

I think I'm over postcap so I'm gonna shut up now. If I get yeeted because I can't post because I burned my post count on jokes and joke appreciation, I'm very sorry.

Ftr I counted 45 posts from Jack today and postcap is 80.

lol implying jack is in antispew

[obscurity]

Towny:
Schiavetto
Wilgy
Porscha
Creature
Neon (half a Mac sheep)
Pyxxy

Town for Role:
Ruri

Lean N-Town (but may need to flip):
Jack
Anne
Lucy

^ probably has 1 but idk, i see some connections between all 3.

Scum:
Seanzie
Falcon
NOOK

[Porscha]

yeah maybe drop Anne from my towns & that statement was a bit bold.

schia/Wilgy/Porcha i do all townread. falcon suspicious.

why you TR schia or me

[Jackofhearts2005]

Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.

Spoiler: show

Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2

After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.

Spoiler: show

That's a joke. I'm super bad at checking that Sloonei's most recent postcount was for the day phase we were currently on

[Porscha]

Here are the post counts from the start of Day 3. I screenshotted them before the night ended but was too lazy/forgetful to post them.

Spoiler: show

Neon: 160
obscurity: 130
anne: 79
DrWilgy: 75
Jackofhearts2005: 73
RondoDimBuckle: 67
lucy: 64
Creature: 63
Lilypetal: 60
Porscha: 37
Seanzie: 34
Schiavetto: 26
pyxxy: 25
falcom45ca: 23
NANOOK: 12
Ruro: 2

After Creature pointed out I wasn't post capped, I realized I had been counting from the start of D3, which would put me at like 100 posts. I'm not in antispew. I'm just super bad at timezones.

Spoiler: show

That's a joke. I'm super bad at checking that Sloonei's most recent postcount was for the day phase we were currently on

i'm wiling to believe mistake cuz idk wtf my post count is I just assume it's too low to not even worry about

but i'm still making squinty eyes at you