Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[Millium]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

[staypositivefriend]

lily what made you townread aro last night in the first place?

[santygrass]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

I think just playing 'for the memes' is always like, a player approach and NAI. Just because it doesnt help the wolf wincon, and doesnt help the town wincon either.

Prob just fundamental stuff so prob better to not get hung up on that, and maybe comment on their latest post in where they are doing less meme post

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle
why are u still voting yourself?

Because I can

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

[Lilypetal]

lily what made you townread aro last night in the first place?

there were 3 pages of posts at the time and I thought how aro was going abt whatever the discussion spanning those pages felt towny to me

was just a snap read off of tone and how he was posting

[MacDougall]

mac do u think that porscha is outed mafia

no

do you still feel confident about santy being mafia?

not confident but I think he likely is

only issue is that the way he reads games as town boggles my mind at times so reading him scum for gaving wtf type reads isn't the slam dunk it can be with others.

but I have largely felt like his reads are like... full of tmi and not much else.

[Lilypetal]

mac do u think that porscha is outed mafia

no

do you still feel confident about santy being mafia?

not confident but I think he likely is

only issue is that the way he reads games as town boggles my mind at times so reading him scum for gaving wtf type reads isn't the slam dunk it can be with others.

but I have largely felt like his reads are like... full of tmi and not much else.

have u talked about this prior and if so can you link it to me? curious

[MacDougall]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

[MacDougall]

mac do u think that porscha is outed mafia

no

do you still feel confident about santy being mafia?

not confident but I think he likely is

only issue is that the way he reads games as town boggles my mind at times so reading him scum for gaving wtf type reads isn't the slam dunk it can be with others.

but I have largely felt like his reads are like... full of tmi and not much else.

have u talked about this prior and if so can you link it to me? curious

yes

click my iso I'm out and on phone

[RondoDimBuckle]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

hehehehe

[Porscha]

is it common for Sean to post like this?

Yeah it is

I love how people can just respond like this with a straight face
like everything is fine

if that is the case, what am I looking for in their posts to find their alignment

I'd recommend just checking if I have a pelt on D3 or not. If I do, you'll likely be able to tell it wasn't a bus, and so I'll be soft-cleared.

in catch up btw so i'm quite far behidn but

since how is this the best way to read you

I don't know if I fully understand what you're asking, but this has always been a good way to find me. There are other good ways too, but I usually have a pelt pretty early as town, and if I don't, I'm either wolf or wrong town, so killing me isn't necessarily bad.

@Alison is Seanzie leaning into a slank-on-purpose playstyle here because he was caught on page 1 and it retroactively justifies his listless reaction to something town Seanzie should have bit at?

Or did he have that reaction in the first place because he's being slank on purpose?

It was because I was caught on page 1.

k I didn't finish catch up gotta go see my parents

I feel like sean is intentionally mixing up his playstyle so I fear this is his attempt to not be polarized but don't know if he's more likely to do this as wolf or town

neon/wisp not w/w

this is the first game ever I think i've seen neon make serious posts day 1. doesn't feel scummy but I was absolutely snowed recently by them wolfing so i'll give tl for now but i'm inclined to re-eval later

You know I have one of the best wolf records on this site, right?

I'm good at obvtowning when I need to when I'm town, but that doesn't mean I'm polarized.

I kinda hate your answers but based on the 1 game you wolfed against me I don't think wolf sean make these type of responses either, so

[Lilypetal]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

that would make a lot of sense actually

[ilario]

Based on the fact that I am scumreading aro and scumleaning Tilg, and both of their votes on Lily were really BAD.

I will say that Lilypetal is TOWN NEVER RESCIND. And you know this is true because I used CAPS

I would agree the votes were pretty bad considering I hadn't rly played yet but I don't really understand your handling of my slot here

Like obviously you're joking about the town never rescind but you've talked about me for a few posts here. I should be null as fuck for you. I feel like your language is slightly pockety and I'm not sure what to make of it

Accept the pocket :hmmyes: . I special power is to pocket people as town. @Tilgarial can confirm

i do believe we have both randed town so i'll accept it owo

still getting a handle of the game, can you give me your current reads?

I think prob the most obvtowns to me rn are Neon / Alison. Then illario and spf I feel good about.

Nanook and Ender I felt good but its just a lean ig. Specially willing to reevaluate ender cuz vote on me + allison scumread.

Then Seanzie I might be inclined to townlean too, but want to read more of them and have a better hold of their approach if it makes sense.

Tilg/aro are my scumreads, most confident on aro. Pinged by Mac too but it could be just them having skill Issue and its better to leave them by anyways.

I think aro is the one I talked the most about in why I sus them. Tilg I was pinged by them (mostly their vote+not having a townping from them) , but its a far less confident read than aro

i feel like u and mac this game is gonna be a repeat of you and koba in finals lol

[Lilypetal]

mac do u think that porscha is outed mafia

no

do you still feel confident about santy being mafia?

not confident but I think he likely is

only issue is that the way he reads games as town boggles my mind at times so reading him scum for gaving wtf type reads isn't the slam dunk it can be with others.

but I have largely felt like his reads are like... full of tmi and not much else.

have u talked about this prior and if so can you link it to me? curious

yes

click my iso I'm out and on phone

will do comrade

[MacDougall]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

[MacDougall]

I'd go as far as saying spf/aro is a straight up difference check and if that's is a t/w dynamic aro looks a lot wolfier.

[Millium]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

[MacDougall]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you have a reason for the Alison vote or is it just a meh level vote?

[MacDougall]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

When Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.

[staypositivefriend]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

You've fallen for my trap card.

[staypositivefriend]

if lily is town then i do agree that aro/tilg both sheeping my push on lily and not really providing a reason beyond: "i agree with SPF's push" looks worse for both of them but i think that creating dichotomies like that this early into the game is generally more harmful than not

if there is a maf between tilg and aro i would lean on it being aro

[Porscha]

@santygrass why you voting arogame?

You said you ISO'd me right? Then you should know lol.

I wasnt vibing with their takes at all (Mostly pinged by the wisp super early townread that seemed scummy to me) . The Lilypetal vote screams scum too. Like, I explained those things too.
Most of their long posts I skimmed tho, felt like overexplaining stuff and Im not going to put that much effort into reading stuff (? .

But yeah , the fact that aro was almost top poster, interacts with people and stuff, and their vote was only a sheep onto a 3 poster in which he didnt try to interact at all is super wolfy imo

isn't this like pretty level 1 to assume of aro though

[RondoDimBuckle]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

When Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.

Hehehehe

[ilario]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

[MacDougall]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

You've fallen for my trap card.

confirmed, sleepy and boring

[Millium]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

When Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.

good to know I guess, but I dont do well with chaos goblins

[staypositivefriend]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

i think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yet

[staypositivefriend]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

what changed ur mind about ender? iirc i thought u had him as a mild townlean last time u mentioned him

[RondoDimBuckle]

How am I supposed to know this behavior is completely nai for him, their whole play style reads like obvious wolf to me

Yes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.

I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.

/shrug
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then

When Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.

good to know I guess, but I dont do well with chaos goblins

no one does

[MacDougall]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

i think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yet

do you think arogame's reason for voting lily was reasonable?

[santygrass]

@santygrass why you voting arogame?

You said you ISO'd me right? Then you should know lol.

I wasnt vibing with their takes at all (Mostly pinged by the wisp super early townread that seemed scummy to me) . The Lilypetal vote screams scum too. Like, I explained those things too.
Most of their long posts I skimmed tho, felt like overexplaining stuff and Im not going to put that much effort into reading stuff (? .

But yeah , the fact that aro was almost top poster, interacts with people and stuff, and their vote was only a sheep onto a 3 poster in which he didnt try to interact at all is super wolfy imo

isn't this like pretty level 1 to assume of aro though

Why? Its based on my experience with how V!aro plays. And this doesnt add up

[RondoDimBuckle]

Actually, I take that back, Ender does <mumble grumble>

[Lilypetal]

Actually, I take that back, Ender does <mumble grumble>

<mumble grumble>

[staypositivefriend]

so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.

so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.

i reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is why

do you think lily is town?

i think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yet

do you think arogame's reason for voting lily was reasonable?

arogame's reasoning was basically just: "i agree with SPF", and tilg's reasoning was more or less exactly the same

i dont think that both of them are mafia (most likely), so choosing to vote for lily based on my push on her is not inherently unreasonable, if that makes sense. i think the reason why the chances of there being a wolf in aro/tilg increase if lily is town is because i think lily was an easy target for a wolf trying to get integrated into the game to park their vote on, but i dont think the reasoning itself is much of a problem

[RondoDimBuckle]

I have had this song stuck in my head all day and now you have to suffer too

Spoiler: show

[staypositivefriend]

i think the worst part about aro is actually just him taking back his read on lily extremely fast and then switching to neon who it appears is most likely town as well

but im withholding further judgement on aro until he posts more

[santygrass]

Based on the fact that I am scumreading aro and scumleaning Tilg, and both of their votes on Lily were really BAD.

I will say that Lilypetal is TOWN NEVER RESCIND. And you know this is true because I used CAPS

I would agree the votes were pretty bad considering I hadn't rly played yet but I don't really understand your handling of my slot here

Like obviously you're joking about the town never rescind but you've talked about me for a few posts here. I should be null as fuck for you. I feel like your language is slightly pockety and I'm not sure what to make of it

Accept the pocket :hmmyes: . I special power is to pocket people as town. @Tilgarial can confirm

i do believe we have both randed town so i'll accept it owo

still getting a handle of the game, can you give me your current reads?

I think prob the most obvtowns to me rn are Neon / Alison. Then illario and spf I feel good about.

Nanook and Ender I felt good but its just a lean ig. Specially willing to reevaluate ender cuz vote on me + allison scumread.

Then Seanzie I might be inclined to townlean too, but want to read more of them and have a better hold of their approach if it makes sense.

Tilg/aro are my scumreads, most confident on aro. Pinged by Mac too but it could be just them having skill Issue and its better to leave them by anyways.

I think aro is the one I talked the most about in why I sus them. Tilg I was pinged by them (mostly their vote+not having a townping from them) , but its a far less confident read than aro

i feel like u and mac this game is gonna be a repeat of you and koba in finals lol

Ehh I think with Mac at least I have experience of having played previously with them. In Spiritfarer which was the first time we played he sussed me hard D1 amd eventually they came around it lol.

I'm not scumreading Mac atm just pinged and keeping in mind that they decided to sus me initially bringing wolf meta when they should well know that the reasons they were giving was stuff I do more as town Lol.

On recent stuff, I liked the Wisp/Rondo read. Like, it seems like a type of read that is hard to make as a wolf to me

[staypositivefriend]

I have had this song stuck in my head all day and now you have to suffer too

Spoiler: show

this song was stuck in my head for like 2 full months last year and i couldn't stop coming back to it. it's infectious

[ilario]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

what changed ur mind about ender? iirc i thought u had him as a mild townlean last time u mentioned him

His pop in felt wolfy, mostly his vote on santy pinged me. Ender I feel is pretty thorough and has a solid process as a villager, I rate his villa game highly partly due to these things. He tends to work his way up to scumreads more slowly however the vote on santy felt pretty abrupt and oppurtunistic. I think others have also gotten more towny so that mild tr I had on him earlier doesn’t hold up as much anymore. I also think he could be your partner because of how weirded out you got when I outed that mild tr on him when again you know as villa I tend to throw out a bunch of random reads early, sometimes for weak reasons

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you have a reason for the Alison vote or is it just a meh level vote?

Yeah j think she's mafia

[Lilypetal]

i think the worst part about aro is actually just him taking back his read on lily extremely fast and then switching to neon who it appears is most likely town as well

but im withholding further judgement on aro until he posts more

yeah that seemed more indicative of wolf aro tbh or just wolves in general

park vote on mia towny

towny comes back and starts posting

ahah lily looks fine unvote!

i think i've done that as wolf a lot lmao

[santygrass]

I have had this song stuck in my head all day and now you have to suffer too

Spoiler: show

HE TOLD ME THAT THE LIFE LF MY DREAMS
WOULD BE PROMISED AND SOMEDAAY BE MINE

HE.. TOLD ME THAT MY POWER WOULD GROW
LIKE THE GRAPES THAT TRIVE ON THE VINE

[staypositivefriend]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

what changed ur mind about ender? iirc i thought u had him as a mild townlean last time u mentioned him

His pop in felt wolfy, mostly his vote on santy pinged me. Ender I feel is pretty thorough and has a solid process as a villager, I rate his villa game highly partly due to these things. He tends to work his way up to scumreads more slowly however the vote on santy felt pretty abrupt and oppurtunistic. I think others have also gotten more towny so that mild tr I had on him earlier doesn’t hold up as much anymore. I also think he could be your partner because of how weirded out you got when I outed that mild tr on him when again you know as villa I tend to throw out a bunch of random reads early, sometimes for weak reasons

lol i think it's funny that youre still fixated on me being weirded out by you townreading ender. the reason why i didnt engage with ur suspicion about that earlier is because i already explained that it was not about the individual reads themselves but about the amount of reads that i perceived as potentially ~pockety~ in quick succession (ie: you townreading me then ender then saying u dont sr aro anymore, etc) that made me think ur mindset was more focused on getting on good terms with ppl than pursuing suspicions like you usually do

but it seems like you either didnt read it or dont believe it so i dunno if it's worth discussing further. beyond that, i agree with you that his pop-in was wolfy and i also think the way that he backed off his townread on you once you accused him of townreading you too easily was possibly wolf-indicative too

[Porscha]

k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

wow

die mad

[RondoDimBuckle]

k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

wow

die mad

HAHAHA Legit laughed out loud so hard my house mate came to check if I was ok

[ilario]

my revised reads atm are probs something like

alison neon mac santy sean as villa

rondo wisp betsy as villa leans

ill probs have to go over tilgs wolf game at some point to see if my townlean there was justified but ngl their read on me felt pretty thoughtful and i cant recall if they matched anything like that last game

/vote ender

what changed ur mind about ender? iirc i thought u had him as a mild townlean last time u mentioned him

His pop in felt wolfy, mostly his vote on santy pinged me. Ender I feel is pretty thorough and has a solid process as a villager, I rate his villa game highly partly due to these things. He tends to work his way up to scumreads more slowly however the vote on santy felt pretty abrupt and oppurtunistic. I think others have also gotten more towny so that mild tr I had on him earlier doesn’t hold up as much anymore. I also think he could be your partner because of how weirded out you got when I outed that mild tr on him when again you know as villa I tend to throw out a bunch of random reads early, sometimes for weak reasons

lol i think it's funny that youre still fixated on me being weirded out by you townreading ender. the reason why i didnt engage with ur suspicion about that earlier is because i already explained that it was not about the individual reads themselves but about the amount of reads that i perceived as potentially ~pockety~ in quick succession (ie: you townreading me then ender then saying u dont sr aro anymore, etc) that made me think ur mindset was more focused on getting on good terms with ppl than pursuing suspicions like you usually do

but it seems like you either didnt read it or dont believe it so i dunno if it's worth discussing further. beyond that, i agree with you that his pop-in was wolfy and i also think the way that he backed off his townread on you once you accused him of townreading you too easily was possibly wolf-indicative too

LOL yeah i am very fixated on that still. the ironic thing is if we are v/v then we have truly fallen into our old time song and dance for d1. 1.we find each other quickly. 2. you get paranoid of me finding you 3. i get paranoid of you being paranoid of me and find something that bugs me about it and park on you for d1

[Lilypetal]

k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

wow

die mad

wow i never saw that post porscha ur so nice uwu

[santygrass]

Votecount asofrn

Santygrass (3) - Macdougall, Seanzie, Enderwiggin
Alison (2) - Nanook, Rondo
Arogame (2) - Santygrass , Lilypetal
Enderwiggin (2) - spf , ilario
Millium (2) - Belzy, Neon
Lilypetal (1) - Tilgarial
Neon (1) - Arogame
Unvote (1) - Millium