Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:20 pm
Dizzy, I haven't caught up with everything you said yet. I've got some writing to do, but this is the thing that I am stuck on.
Epi's vote on Dizzy
My vote on Rico
lucy came in and voted Dizzy
You voted Rico
If lucy is Rico's partner,
why wouldn't he just vote Dizzy here? It would automatically have clinched them the game if Dizzy was chopped. And he could do it under guise of self pres vote.
It makes no sense that he wouldn't have done it in a world where lucy was his partner. It could have potentially won them the game.
Well, yes. Potentially. However, there would be no guarantee that Epig would’ve stayed on me, and that I would go over in the end. Certainly not without risk. Plus, he did in fact vote me when he got desperate, and pinged you and Epig to change your votes.
There’s more problems though. Because even closer to day end, you, Epig and Rico were all on Lucy. I was between Rico and Violet. Lucy on me. When Violet comes in he argues against the Lucy chop and think Rico is the better idea. He even thinks chopping me/himself is better than Lucy. In a world where Violet is teamed with Rico, this definitely doesn’t make sense imo. I do not at all see why he would need to do that.
I also agreed with Violet that we should go Rico and even me/Violet over Lucy, which was my preference most of the day. So I also vote Rico and ask you to join us there. This is also not something I would have had to do in a world where I’m teamed with Rico, cause you, Epig and Rico were still content on Lucy.
And then we get to you. You did distract away from Rico first, by voting Lucy. You then changed back when I asked you to, closer to EOD. In the end, you could have switched to me last minute, as Lucy didn’t show up and mafia decides tie. So in a world where you are mafia, that would just be a win. However, you were at work at the time, and probably wasn’t able to be around at last minute.
But however you see it, the mafia arguably played suboptimal to somewhat of an absurd degree.
It’s conceivable that Rico and Lucy had planned a bus. Maybe Lucy even asked for it, since she wouldn’t be present. Maybe Rico thought that voting me was too obvious and possibly outing for him and Lucy if they weren’t able to mischop me. It’s not really an easy thing to do, and Epig had proved to be flippant and you didn’t support it.
It’s also conceivable to me that you felt trapped into voting Rico since I asked you, and you couldn’t vote me since you had openly stated that you didn’t want to.
It’s much less conceivable to me that Violet just jumps in to bus their teammate in MYLO when that didn’t have to happen.
Something a bit strange happened, and mafia probably made some sort of a mistake or weird play.
Beyond that, we do have two flipped mafia and a lot of interaction in this thread, so solving should be possible. But then we actually have to do it. And I don’t see a lot of it right now.