Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I was just giving my two cents on the matter. Why do I get anblindfaeth wrote:I was actually inferring the opposite BWT, to look in the non-stridor voters, but OK
for that?
Oooooooooooh nevermind. I re-read what you had said and I must have been confused. So what you're saying is that since the baddie teams probably only had 1 person pick the Stridor, then that means we should pay more attention to the non-baddie voters? Help me out here if I'm reading what you said wrong. I've been up since 6:30 this morning and haven't had a nap so I might be a bit out of it lol.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I was just giving my two cents on the matter. Why do I get anblindfaeth wrote:I was actually inferring the opposite BWT, to look in the non-stridor voters, but OK
Magnificent!>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:
I'm not even playing and I vote YES! Haha!>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:Fantastic first post Rob! And good work with the math, guys. I think I'm going to go with the Attak Trak, it seems like it would move the most without having 0 as an option. Attak Trak it is!
Also, for those of you who i've played mafia with: Would you like me to do drawings of the host posts for this game?
Great job, Epignosis! You are a natural, my friend. 
Or that's what they want us to think!blindfaeth wrote:it's also possible that the baddies are trying to dissuade us from thinking my theory is a good idea, which is what I think is happening
Just so I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying that we should be looking at all non Stridor voters today and giving the Stridor voters a pass because the more you post the more it sounds like this is the case???blindfaeth wrote:it's also possible that the baddies are trying to dissuade us from thinking my theory is a good idea, which is what I think is happening
Can you detail why? Again perhaps?blindfaeth wrote:That's exactly what I'm saying TBH o.o
I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
I do find it weird because the logic doesn't make sense. We don't know why anyone would have missed the vote, especially since we were only given 24 hours and we have many new players this game. I'm not trying to squash discussion, I am actually encouraging it and giving my two cents on what llama's thoughts were at the time. You and Rox eyeing me for that strikes me as opportunistic.He-Man wrote:I dont find it weird. I think the sooner we get talking and nit picking the sooner we get closer to lynching baddies. I find it weird your against it tbb.MovingPictures07 wrote:
I find it weird that it would be suggested to lynch one of them at the very start of the day.
The Stridor/non-Stridor theory is interesting. I do find it logical. I think a baddie team would likely do that, since why have everyone vote Stridor? Wouldn't make any sense.timmer wrote:I think seeing players take Day 1 by the horns and get things rolling is refreshing, actually. Usually we're all "derp-a-derp" until we all panic and randomize.
That said, the simple act of not voting is a weird thing to base suspicion on, unless people are thinking a baddie team may have thought there was something bad waiting for the winner?
I'm more inclined to think that, for starters, each baddie team likely had exactly one player on the Stridor team, to collect the special info for his or her team. No baddie team would pass that up, imo.
@BF, great minds think alike!
However, I do agree with reywaS here. I think there will be enough discussion if the day so far is any indication by that time to have formed at least one worthwhile suspicion. Whether that person is Stridor or non-Stridor may not be relevant.reywaS wrote:I can tell already that this game is going to be fantastic! The host posts are very well written and very entertaining! The latest one is no exception.
I, too, like all the Day 1 talk so far. It's so much better than the normal, "OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, votes: random".
My thoughts on the day 0 poll voting...I don't think I like the idea of clearing anyone yet. What I mean is that we should continue to have open eyes for everyone. The thought that the baddie teams would spread their votes out among all the choices is an interesting one, but I personally will be looking at everyone including the Stridor voters.
Snow Dog, these are the roles in the Snake Mountain and The Horde section of the role listing. The green and pink ones are civvies and the yellow ones are independent, I believe.Snow Dog wrote:What are "baddies"?
Can either of you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
I think it's not wise to lynch based on that alone either, I agree. I'm interested, do you have any pings as to anyone who might be worth anRusstifinko wrote:I agree that non-Stridor voters do look slightly more suspicious at this point, but I'll also be keeping an eye on Stridor riders.
Picking someone to lynch based solely on vehicle choice seems a bit presumptuous. Even if the theory that one player from each baddie team (and the indies) chose the Stridor, that leaves us with 10 baddies and an indie among 21 non-Stridor voters. That's still almost 50% odds on hanging a civvie, so I personally hope to get something more to go on by the voting deadline.
It's looking more and more like the Stridor was the best vehicle choice, especially since many seem inclined to choose among those who took other transportation methods.
or nothing yet? represent. sorry for all the dumb questions.It's an eye, signifying giving someone a close look to determine where their loyalties lie.Snow Dog wrote:What does the
WIFOM much? Both the info and the prize were tantalizing alternatives, I just chose to roll the bones on the big money. Which didn't work out for me, but eh.thellama73 wrote:Or that's what they want us to think!blindfaeth wrote:it's also possible that the baddies are trying to dissuade us from thinking my theory is a good idea, which is what I think is happening
MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, we still have over 24 hours left, but whom haven't we heard from still? Reptar, DP, Ishar, KL05? Looking at who has posted, there are still quite a lot of names I want to hear more from as well. Any thoughts, Aces, AATB, Anna, DH, Snow Dog, SD, Vomps, etc.? Doesn't even have to be a suspicion, but at least something regarding what has happened so far?
Understandable. What do you think of the Non-Stridor theory that baddies might have spread teammates across the non-Stridor options or do you think that it's null and void? And do you have any idea whom you might vote for yet?Snow Dog wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, we still have over 24 hours left, but whom haven't we heard from still? Reptar, DP, Ishar, KL05? Looking at who has posted, there are still quite a lot of names I want to hear more from as well. Any thoughts, Aces, AATB, Anna, DH, Snow Dog, SD, Vomps, etc.? Doesn't even have to be a suspicion, but at least something regarding what has happened so far?
Well I'm new to this. This is my first game. I hadn't even heard of this mafia thing until a few days ago. Interesting to read peoples theories so far but got nothing to add at the moment.
Welcome back to Mafia bitch - you are quite the vocal player something I have missed <3MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, we still have over 24 hours left, but whom haven't we heard from still? Reptar, DP, Ishar, KL05? Looking at who has posted, there are still quite a lot of names I want to hear more from as well. Any thoughts, Aces, AATB, Anna, DH, Snow Dog, SD, Vomps, etc.? Doesn't even have to be a suspicion, but at least something regarding what has happened so far?
I'm saying that people trying to make the lynch completely based upon the Stridor vote... the difference between the two probabilities is pretty small and it's based upon many assumptions.... I don't know that this discussion is really based on anything but wild guesses and I'd like us all to remember that.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, forgot to say, awesome picture, SE! Excited to have your picture story accompaniments again, and very well-done as usual.
Can either of you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
OK, after reading, I agree with Dom. The whole theory would be based on the fact that there is only one piece of information to be achieved. Who says that if all players voted stridor, that they wouldn't all get different bits of info?Dom wrote:I'm saying that people trying to make the lynch completely based upon the Stridor vote... the difference between the two probabilities is pretty small and it's based upon many assumptions.... I don't know that this discussion is really based on anything but wild guesses and I'd like us all to remember that.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, forgot to say, awesome picture, SE! Excited to have your picture story accompaniments again, and very well-done as usual.
Can either of you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
While at least two baddies are extremely likely to be in what I'll remind you is MY voting group, at the same time, there could easily be more. Ja feel?
Well, thank you! What can I say, I love mafia, and what better way to play than to truly PLAY? It is great to be back in the swing of it, and this game already promises to be really freaking cool.Roxy wrote:Welcome back to Mafia bitch - you are quite the vocal player something I have missed <3MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, we still have over 24 hours left, but whom haven't we heard from still? Reptar, DP, Ishar, KL05? Looking at who has posted, there are still quite a lot of names I want to hear more from as well. Any thoughts, Aces, AATB, Anna, DH, Snow Dog, SD, Vomps, etc.? Doesn't even have to be a suspicion, but at least something regarding what has happened so far?
Also I left a note on Porcu's FB I told him I was already pinged by his silence lol
No idea where I am voting still watching to see what happens. I was pinged by your initial statement but you have answered to that and what you meant. I really thought you were trying quash that discussion.
Linky speaking of my fake ping lol
Ah, okay, I understand that. You're right, it's logical; I think it would be weird for anyone to actually place their vote with a sole emphasis on ONLY the Non-Stridor theory. The probability doesn't make that big of a difference, and there's WIFOM arguments tied up in it. And while it would be better than completely randomizing, I find it could also be used just as easily to relinquish responsibility for a vote by a baddie. Just pop in and say, yeah, the Non-Stridor theory makes sense, and put their vote on one of them, you know?Dom wrote:I'm saying that people trying to make the lynch completely based upon the Stridor vote... the difference between the two probabilities is pretty small and it's based upon many assumptions.... I don't know that this discussion is really based on anything but wild guesses and I'd like us all to remember that.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, forgot to say, awesome picture, SE! Excited to have your picture story accompaniments again, and very well-done as usual.
Can either of you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
While at least two baddies are extremely likely to be in what I'll remind you is MY voting group, at the same time, there could easily be more. Ja feel?
This is true, and you're right on the mark, HOWEVER, was that speculated before the info was given out? I think the general consensus at the time was that there would be some sort of info, and that it would likely get leaked out into the thread anyway. That isn't what I thought, and that isn't necessarily what everyone thought, but maybe it could have been the basis for a baddie team's decision.Kate wrote:OK, after reading, I agree with Dom. The whole theory would be based on the fact that there is only one piece of information to be achieved. Who says that if all players voted stridor, that they wouldn't all get different bits of info?Dom wrote:I'm saying that people trying to make the lynch completely based upon the Stridor vote... the difference between the two probabilities is pretty small and it's based upon many assumptions.... I don't know that this discussion is really based on anything but wild guesses and I'd like us all to remember that.MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, forgot to say, awesome picture, SE! Excited to have your picture story accompaniments again, and very well-done as usual.
Can either of you elaborate on this? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
While at least two baddies are extremely likely to be in what I'll remind you is MY voting group, at the same time, there could easily be more. Ja feel?
I'm all for this, especially because as a host I know it can be frustrating to have non-participants. Plus, it's an easy way to hide as a baddie as a non-participant because you don't have to put yourself out there and risk being lynched. However, it is still pretty early, and I'm not sure whether the non-participants are baddie or civvie any more than I am those participating, so I'd rather avoid that.thellama73 wrote:I still like the idea of voting off non-participants, not for any strategic reason, but to make the game more fun. However, Boomslang's defensive response to the Stridor theory struck me as a little suspect.
He seemed annoyed that people were suspecting the non-Stridor voters as baddies. Since he is a non-Stridor voter, if he were a baddie he would probably react as such. On the other hand, he may just be a fearful civvie who happened not to vote for Stridor (a position I can certainly relate to.) Still, the tone in the post seemed a little desperate to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:That's an interesting observation re: Boomslang, care to elaborate?thellama73 wrote:I still like the idea of voting off non-participants, not for any strategic reason, but to make the game more fun. However, Boomslang's defensive response to the Stridor theory struck me as a little suspect.
Are you Llama from PA?thellama73 wrote:He seemed annoyed that people were suspecting the non-Stridor voters as baddies. Since he is a non-Stridor voter, if he were a baddie he would probably react as such. On the other hand, he may just be a fearful civvie who happened not to vote for Stridor (a position I can certainly relate to.) Still, the tone in the post seemed a little desperate to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:That's an interesting observation re: Boomslang, care to elaborate?thellama73 wrote:I still like the idea of voting off non-participants, not for any strategic reason, but to make the game more fun. However, Boomslang's defensive response to the Stridor theory struck me as a little suspect.
Of coursethellama73 wrote:Yes. Are you Snow Dog from PA?
But I love all the ideas and theories so far. However, his later explanation makes sense. Just wanted to point out that you cannot edit your posts in mafia I don't think its pingworthy, but I can see why you do considering what just happened to us in Daisy's beatles game. We ignored the missing players and ended up lynching civs based on this same theory MP put forward (that they would have teammie pushing them into the thread).LittleTiger wrote:Wow, what an excellent start to what looks like it will be an EPIC game! Posts are phenomenal, Epignosis!
The discussion so far is awesome for a Day 1. Personally, I am going to look at all players - regardless of which vehicle they chose. I will base my suspicion on thread activity.
It did ping me a little that MP didn't want the non-voters looked at - my first thought was, ah, maybe he has a team mate or two in that group
Oh and FYI - I totally phase out on the math so will be skimming those posts
Hi Snow Dog - welcome to your first game!
Love the first game picture, Spaghetti!
Ah. I'd forgotten.I only changed the colour of my text as it was off topic.LittleTiger wrote:Wow, what an excellent start to what looks like it will be an EPIC game! Posts are phenomenal, Epignosis!
The discussion so far is awesome for a Day 1. Personally, I am going to look at all players - regardless of which vehicle they chose. I will base my suspicion on thread activity.
It did ping me a little that MP didn't want the non-voters looked at - my first thought was, ah, maybe he has a team mate or two in that group
Oh and FYI - I totally phase out on the math so will be skimming those posts
Hi Snow Dog - welcome to your first game!
Love the first game picture, Spaghetti!
This is a decent observation. I could just as easily foresee both scenarios, but you're right in that it did sound a tad overly-defensive. Now what that means, good question. Maybe Boomslang can clarify? I assume he'll claim the latter of your two proposed thoughts here, but it helps to get a person's response to gauge the intention, as I've stated previously.thellama73 wrote:He seemed annoyed that people were suspecting the non-Stridor voters as baddies. Since he is a non-Stridor voter, if he were a baddie he would probably react as such. On the other hand, he may just be a fearful civvie who happened not to vote for Stridor (a position I can certainly relate to.) Still, the tone in the post seemed a little desperate to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:That's an interesting observation re: Boomslang, care to elaborate?thellama73 wrote:I still like the idea of voting off non-participants, not for any strategic reason, but to make the game more fun. However, Boomslang's defensive response to the Stridor theory struck me as a little suspect.
I know you said it makes sense now, but I wanted to clarify this, especially because, looking at He-Man's post again, it still strikes me as strange.LittleTiger wrote:Wow, what an excellent start to what looks like it will be an EPIC game! Posts are phenomenal, Epignosis!
The discussion so far is awesome for a Day 1. Personally, I am going to look at all players - regardless of which vehicle they chose. I will base my suspicion on thread activity.
It did ping me a little that MP didn't want the non-voters looked at - my first thought was, ah, maybe he has a team mate or two in that group
Oh and FYI - I totally phase out on the math so will be skimming those posts
Hi Snow Dog - welcome to your first game!
Love the first game picture, Spaghetti!
Still giving him the BOTD, obviously, as what he could respond with could clear my ping -- but that's the only occurrence that really made my eyebrow crick. Though we have more than 24 hours still, so I have to echo that the discussion level has been insightful and beneficial so far.He-Man wrote:I agree with this we seem in the midst of chaosDom wrote:This is likely a chaotic discussion that the baddies are using against us.
(and we all should be) because I try to encourage them to participate so that we can get as much information and people's thoughts in the thread as possible. I just think it's a bit weird and counter-productive to fly out of the gate and accuse them as lynch topics, especially in a game with total mafia newbies.MovingPictures07 wrote:Understandable. What do you think of the Non-Stridor theory that baddies might have spread teammates across the non-Stridor options or do you think that it's null and void? And do you have any idea whom you might vote for yet?Snow Dog wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, we still have over 24 hours left, but whom haven't we heard from still? Reptar, DP, Ishar, KL05? Looking at who has posted, there are still quite a lot of names I want to hear more from as well. Any thoughts, Aces, AATB, Anna, DH, Snow Dog, SD, Vomps, etc.? Doesn't even have to be a suspicion, but at least something regarding what has happened so far?
Well I'm new to this. This is my first game. I hadn't even heard of this mafia thing until a few days ago. Interesting to read peoples theories so far but got nothing to add at the moment.