The Syndicate

Scotty wrote:Last question- and sorry if this has already been addressed:

Is there a secret role? Being there are 16 roles and 17 players.

Thanks M!

Unvote Scotty for asking a smart-smart question.

Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Scotty wrote:
That makes much more sense. Sorry about that

That's a very fair question, and I've updated the role accordingly for clarification purposes.

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Mongoose wrote:

Scotty wrote:
That makes much more sense. Sorry about that

That's a very fair question, and I've updated the role accordingly for clarification purposes.

I don't understand!!!

Scotty wrote:Last question- and sorry if this has already been addressed:

Is there a secret role? Being there are 16 roles and 17 players.

Thanks M!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Scotty wrote:
That makes much more sense. Sorry about that

That's a very fair question, and I've updated the role accordingly for clarification purposes.

I don't understand!!!

Hi H! The Denim Shirt's Player's Name will be in the lynch poll, but s/he won't die even if s/he receives the most number of votes. (Remember that poll results might be misleading as one player can add +2 to a player's/players' tally(ies), and one player can subtract -1 to a player's vote tally).

Is that a little less confusing? Basically, no matter what happens, that player will not be lynched on the first five days.

Scotty wrote:Last question- and sorry if this has already been addressed:

Is there a secret role? Being there are 16 roles and 17 players.

Thanks M!

Never mind Mongoose. I thought you were answering this question (which is the one I had as well).

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

Why do you not want people asking questions?

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

But then why am I suspicious for asking questions? Did you originally think my questions were coming from a disengenuous viewpoint? Or do you think getting answers to questions is bad for your team?

Linki:

Scotty wrote:lol don't sweat it, Mongoose Getting these questions out go the way before the game starts.

Mongoose wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:I have a follow up question for @Mongoose if what you assume is true:

If overalls are called, do they then gain the ability to kill every night without fail? Is that ability passed on in any capacity?

Called = killed

And my previous post should read Mongolia = Mongoose

That autocorrect made me laugh. Overalls have the ability to kill every night ab initio (barring normal game mechanics, such as blocking, etc).

Can you clarify for the record what you mean by the ability being passed on? To another character?

If overalls are killed, how does mafia operate in killing from then on? Does the team inherit the action of killing every night?

This might be important because overalls already looks like it can be potentially tangled up to not kill on a night as an advantage to civs.

For equanimity, yes, the kill does pass to the baddie teammates.

insertnamehere wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

Why do you not want people asking questions?

I like people asking questions of each other. Asking questions of the host isn't going to locate baddies. Also, I like stifling discussion. I'm notorious for it.

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

But then why am I suspicious for asking questions? Did you originally think my questions were coming from a disengenuous viewpoint? Or do you think getting answers to questions is bad for your team?

Linki:

I think it's a distraction. Pretending not to understand the rules fills up space and gives you illusion of participation, but it accomplishes nothing in the hunt for evil doers. It also makes for tedious ISOs later in the game.

Hey guys what's up.

This started suddenly. I was expecting it to take longer.

Been a while since I've last played a speed game here, I think. I love those.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Scotty wrote:No. I find it odd that the mafia have the potential for two kills every night if all 4 are mafia. Don't you?

That wasn't my interpretation. I thought the mafia team's sole killer was the dude with the straps -- that roll kills every night as long as both straps are intact. My first guess is that this means this role must be destroyed twice (once for each strap).

Mongoose, if you're able to clarify anything about this that'd be swell. If not, okee dokee.

Since there is only one Baddie/Mafia team, they have the ability to kill nightly.

With a maximum potential of 2 baddie nightkills each night, if both straps come loose?

This is an excellent question. The right strap can only kill on even nights and the left strap on odd nights, so it's impossible for both straps to be loose at the same night since a night cannot be both even and odd (watch llama have an explanation for how this is possible).

A number is considered oddly even if it is only divisible by one (1) even number.

So Night 2 will see two (2) nightkills.

I think you are mistaking odd numbers for prime numbers.

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

You must be fun at parties.

Once people get bored of your fez.

That said, I'm always in for voting for players who spent all game talking about game mechanics instead of hunting scum.

Here, have some thoughts. I thought these thoughts up.

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Space station sounds like the best place to me!

You're bad.

Sorsha wrote:I didn't hear you call dibs on the space station llama

I don't know how serious llama was about his initial accusation, but I do think Sorsha's response to it is suspicious. In the earliest stages of a game, it can be genuinely difficult for a baddie to respond to an assertive accusation, even when the baddie knows the accusation can't possibly be informed by anything substantial. There's still the matter of forcing out a response of some kind and trying to look legitimate in the process. Sometimes when I have found myself in that position, my response has been to offer a jokey retort to my accuser rather like Sorsha's here. The purpose is that it alleviates the pressure of the accusation by adding levity and humor to the exchange, and generally other players aren't going to be pinged by that. The problem is that it evidences a desire to respond without an accompanying desire to explore. Sorsha does not seem interested in why llama threw poop at her. I just typed a whole paragraph about that post you guys!

Quin wrote:'Baddie' and 'Mafia' are commonly used synonymously here. I'm not sure what answer Scotty was expecting. It seems like a question for the sake of asking a question, rather than a question for the sake of learning.

I'd talk more, but my cat is on my keyboard. She does not appreciate my posting right now. I'll go to bed shortly.

Quin, when you said this was a "weird" moment for Scotty, did that imply you found it suspicious to any degree?

Reminder to players that this game will be operating within 24/24 cycles. It's been a little while since such a game occurred here, and a very long while since I have played in one myself. There's more urgency than has been typical lately to get busy hunting right away. Let's roll.

*fingers in ears* Not able to catch up until Day 1 and the weekend, fam. But voting the space station, because SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

thellama73 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Can you guys stop harassing the host and do some baddie hunting? I found Sorsha. What have you done?

Ok.

I'll bite. What are the odds that a mafia member refuses to play the unspoken Jean pun game?

I'd maybe vote her if I had to vote today.

Good man. My suspicion of you for asking too many questions is diminished.

Why do you not want people asking questions?

I like people asking questions of each other. Asking questions of the host isn't going to locate baddies. Also, I like stifling discussion. I'm notorious for it.

I agree with this sentiment. Feeling okay about llama today. I thought I was seeing an association between this game and bad llama in the latest burglary, in which he attacked Made for being too enthusiastic, but Made was indy there so he may have been legitimately hunting to a degree there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Here, have some thoughts. I thought these thoughts up.

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Space station sounds like the best place to me!

You're bad.

Sorsha wrote:I didn't hear you call dibs on the space station llama

I don't know how serious llama was about his initial accusation, but I do think Sorsha's response to it is suspicious. In the earliest stages of a game, it can be genuinely difficult for a baddie to respond to an assertive accusation, even when the baddie knows the accusation can't possibly be informed by anything substantial. There's still the matter of forcing out a response of some kind and trying to look legitimate in the process. Sometimes when I have found myself in that position, my response has been to offer a jokey retort to my accuser rather like Sorsha's here. The purpose is that it alleviates the pressure of the accusation by adding levity and humor to the exchange, and generally other players aren't going to be pinged by that. The problem is that it evidences a desire to respond without an accompanying desire to explore. Sorsha does not seem interested in why llama threw poop at her. I just typed a whole paragraph about that post you guys!

Well, see, your problem here is that nobody ever listens to llama.

Epignosis wrote:Well, see, your problem here is that nobody ever listens to llama.

I don't know what you mean as it pertains to my comments.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Well, see, your problem here is that nobody ever listens to llama.

I don't know what you mean as it pertains to my comments.

It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:'Baddie' and 'Mafia' are commonly used synonymously here. I'm not sure what answer Scotty was expecting. It seems like a question for the sake of asking a question, rather than a question for the sake of learning.

I'd talk more, but my cat is on my keyboard. She does not appreciate my posting right now. I'll go to bed shortly.

Quin, when you said this was a "weird" moment for Scotty, did that imply you found it suspicious to any degree?

Yeah. It didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth.

Although, the thing about Scotty is (and I imagine I'm not the only one who's noticed this) that he tends to take a lot of suspicion on in the early game, and becomes a lot easier to read after that initial hump. To an extent I'm considering just putting this in my arsenal for a rainy day.

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

Quin wrote:Yeah. It didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth.

Although, the thing about Scotty is (and I imagine I'm not the only one who's noticed this) that he tends to take a lot of suspicion on in the early game, and becomes a lot easier to read after that initial hump. To an extent I'm considering just putting this in my arsenal for a rainy day.

Could you describe what you suspect Scotty's motivation may have been to ask that question if he's bad?

Scotty wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:

Scotty wrote: The OP says there are 4 baddies, but it says the civs need the mafia dead to win. Are all the "baddies" mafia? Are overalls on the same team as the other 3?

This is a weird question.

Tell me more, Quinnie the Pooh. Whatchoo mean "weird"?

'Baddie' and 'Mafia' are commonly used synonymously here. I'm not sure what answer Scotty was expecting. It seems like a question for the sake of asking a question, rather than a question for the sake of learning.

I'd talk more, but my cat is on my keyboard. She does not appreciate my posting right now. I'll go to bed shortly.

No. I find it odd that the mafia have the potential for two kills every night if all 4 are mafia. Don't you?

Although on the Scotty thing, I can appreciate that this is where his mind was.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:Yeah. It didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth.

Although, the thing about Scotty is (and I imagine I'm not the only one who's noticed this) that he tends to take a lot of suspicion on in the early game, and becomes a lot easier to read after that initial hump. To an extent I'm considering just putting this in my arsenal for a rainy day.

Could you describe what you suspect Scotty's motivation may have been to ask that question if he's bad?

Feigning activity. It doesn't feel like derp-clearing, like what you brought up before. But with this specific roster (this is going to be a very active game) I don't imagine anyone would let that fly.

I noticed that you come in with a lot more of a youthful tone than you usually do, Jay. 'Quinnie the Pooh' and 'Okee-dokee', all that jazz. Is that what a non-postaholic JaggedJimmyJay sounds like?

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:'Baddie' and 'Mafia' are commonly used synonymously here. I'm not sure what answer Scotty was expecting. It seems like a question for the sake of asking a question, rather than a question for the sake of learning.

I'd talk more, but my cat is on my keyboard. She does not appreciate my posting right now. I'll go to bed shortly.

Quin, when you said this was a "weird" moment for Scotty, did that imply you found it suspicious to any degree?

Yeah. It didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth.

Although, the thing about Scotty is (and I imagine I'm not the only one who's noticed this) that he tends to take a lot of suspicion on in the early game, and becomes a lot easier to read after that initial hump. To an extent I'm considering just putting this in my arsenal for a rainy day.

Oh? A lot easier to read, you say?

Interesting.

Quin wrote:I noticed that you come in with a lot more of a youthful tone than you usually do, Jay. 'Quinnie the Pooh' and 'Okee-dokee', all that jazz. Is that what a non-postaholic JaggedJimmyJay sounds like?

Sometimes I just find myself in a goofball kind of mood. I'm Neil Hartley.

Scotty wrote:Oh? A lot easier to read, you say?

Interesting.

Sometimes you're really easy to read after you take early pressure, because you're dead and your role is revealed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

She responded in a way I would have expected if she were good, I guess. When we were bad together last time, she came after me snottily. Last time when she was bad and I wasn't, she came after me snottily. llama and I think similarly, so maybe her response is an indication that she isn't bad.

Or maybe she's just snotty to me.

Quin wrote:I noticed that you come in with a lot more of a youthful tone than you usually do, Jay. 'Quinnie the Pooh' and 'Okee-dokee', all that jazz. Is that what a non-postaholic JaggedJimmyJay sounds like?

Read this as "alcoholic" and just nodded as if it makes sense as to why JJJ posts so much

Scotty wrote:

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Quin wrote:'Baddie' and 'Mafia' are commonly used synonymously here. I'm not sure what answer Scotty was expecting. It seems like a question for the sake of asking a question, rather than a question for the sake of learning.

I'd talk more, but my cat is on my keyboard. She does not appreciate my posting right now. I'll go to bed shortly.

Quin, when you said this was a "weird" moment for Scotty, did that imply you found it suspicious to any degree?

Yeah. It didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth.

Although, the thing about Scotty is (and I imagine I'm not the only one who's noticed this) that he tends to take a lot of suspicion on in the early game, and becomes a lot easier to read after that initial hump. To an extent I'm considering just putting this in my arsenal for a rainy day.

Oh? A lot easier to read, you say?

Interesting.

I don't think I have a particularly bad track record of reading you. Though there was that one time in Turf Wars...

Scotty wrote:

Quin wrote:I noticed that you come in with a lot more of a youthful tone than you usually do, Jay. 'Quinnie the Pooh' and 'Okee-dokee', all that jazz. Is that what a non-postaholic JaggedJimmyJay sounds like?

Read this as "alcoholic" and just nodded as if it makes sense as to why JJJ posts so much

What's MP's excuse?

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

She responded in a way I would have expected if she were good, I guess. When we were bad together last time, she came after me snottily. Last time when she was bad and I wasn't, she came after me snottily. llama and I think similarly, so maybe her response is an indication that she isn't bad.

Or maybe she's just snotty to me.

What if you and Sorsha were bad? (Hypothetically, of course). Who would your other 2 partners be?

Linki1: lol yeah I'm no saint at reading people either. I read people how I read my books: via pictures

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

She responded in a way I would have expected if she were good, I guess. When we were bad together last time, she came after me snottily. Last time when she was bad and I wasn't, she came after me snottily. llama and I think similarly, so maybe her response is an indication that she isn't bad.

Or maybe she's just snotty to me.

What if you and Sorsha were bad? (Hypothetically, of course). Who would your other 2 partners be?

Linki1: lol yeah I'm no saint at reading people either. I read people how I read my books: via pictures

You and Vompatti.

Glad everyone seems to be having fun! Since this is only a Day 0 poll, I might end the poll 2 hours early in order to get us on a better schedule (10pm EST is a little late for some of us). If you've not decided, get those votes in!

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

She responded in a way I would have expected if she were good, I guess. When we were bad together last time, she came after me snottily. Last time when she was bad and I wasn't, she came after me snottily. llama and I think similarly, so maybe her response is an indication that she isn't bad.

Or maybe she's just snotty to me.

What if you and Sorsha were bad? (Hypothetically, of course). Who would your other 2 partners be?

Linki1: lol yeah I'm no saint at reading people either. I read people how I read my books: via pictures

You and Vompatti.

Vompatti ain't playing, son.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It was an opportunity to take a jab at llama. You don't pass those up.

Understood.

Whaddya think of Sorsha?

She responded in a way I would have expected if she were good, I guess. When we were bad together last time, she came after me snottily. Last time when she was bad and I wasn't, she came after me snottily. llama and I think similarly, so maybe her response is an indication that she isn't bad.

Or maybe she's just snotty to me.

What if you and Sorsha were bad? (Hypothetically, of course). Who would your other 2 partners be?

Linki1: lol yeah I'm no saint at reading people either. I read people how I read my books: via pictures

You and Vompatti.

Vompatti ain't playing, son.

Therefore I cannot be bad. Q.E.D.

Epignosis wrote:Therefore I cannot be bad. Q.E.D.

Don't complain to me when you get killed Night 1.


So many WIFVOM angles here, how delicious.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Therefore I cannot be bad. Q.E.D.

Don't complain to me when you get killed Night 1.


So many WIFVOM angles here, how delicious.

The V is new. I hope it stands for vidya gamez

Quin wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Therefore I cannot be bad. Q.E.D.

Don't complain to me when you get killed Night 1.


So many WIFVOM angles here, how delicious.

The V is new. I hope it stands for vidya gamez

I fveel the necessity to fvind new methods ofv expressing myselfv.

A Person!

Why did you vote for Arizona? Where ARE you?

Long Con wrote:A Person!

Why did you vote for Arizona? Where ARE you?

Arizona, presumably.

Long Con wrote:A Person!

Why did you vote for Arizona? Where ARE you?

I voted for Arizona because it reminds me of Arizona tea and Arizona tea is Ａ Ｅ Ｓ Ｔ Ｈ Ｅ Ｔ Ｉ Ｃ