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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:54 pm
by sprityo
Congratulations, 1 hour in and someone is already been voted for!

VOTALS:

Scotty (1): JJJ

With 21 Alive, it takes 11 to Lynch, and 6 to soft lynch. Day 1 will be an extended 72 hours, so it will end on 14th February, 2017 at 10pm EST.

I will put out Vote totals about a couple times every 24 hours, but feel free to put an "unofficial count" post out for yourself if you want a visual representation

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:07 am
by Quin
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I didn't get the map, but I did learn a valuable lesson.
What lesson did you learn?
you all suck

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:29 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Alright guys, let's do some GTH reads.
Spoiler: show
Not really, but let's see some that of that beautiful content I know you're packing.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:40 am
by Fredwood
GTH? It looks as if Silver and I are playing the parts of naive traveler.

If this has been covered, there has been no indication of what happens in each zone correct? So essentially we're just rolling along blindly correct?

I guess if anyone would have this information it would be Golden, but he didn't appear to have any relevant data, I was just double checking to see if I hadn't missed anything in the fluff or precursor material.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:45 am
by Golden
Fredwood wrote:I guess if anyone would have this information it would be Golden.
Why not Jay or Marmot?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:50 am
by Fredwood
Golden wrote:
Fredwood wrote:I guess if anyone would have this information it would be Golden.
Why not Jay or Marmot?
You said you had the map and it wasn't helpful at the moment. I guess anyone else has the information would be able to fill me in on missed information that has been given to everyone, but with specificity you would have the most data.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:54 am
by Silver Lantern
What are people's thoughts on the actual map receiver outing the map info with everyone in case they die?

I guess only they can determine if the info is worth outing or taking to the grave.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:02 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
I would prefer not to disclose all of the details of the map, because the mafia team might be able to find ways to turn it to their advantage. I will say though that Golden's guesses are at least reasonably close all things considered. Once I have had a few opportunities to utilize it myself and get acquainted with the effects it creates, I might be more inclined to talk about it. We'll see.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:06 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
I just realized that someone is going to get lynched on Valentine's Day. Romance is in the air. :daisy:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:21 am
by Fredwood
From what I've read though, we'll all be able to make our own maps in time anyway, I just wasn't sure if there was any game mechanic outside of a gift in each zone. There might be and it was voluntarily withheld as to create suspense.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:56 am
by Scotty
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:North-east because I like a little of everything. :smile:

Lynch: Scotty

His support of me in the map business looked fake. Also I appreciate those who entrusted the map to me, I will do my best to live up the appropriate standard.
I'm sorry it looked fake.

It's because it was.

I voted for INH to receive the map :meany:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:57 am
by Scotty
I'm going south for the winter away from this cold.

Just kidding I go north to Canada on Monday :noble:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:02 am
by Scotty
Lynch: Soneji

He hasn't checked in yet. He's probably out to get us.

Oh, I have an interesting role with a power that is only as useful as I keep talking. I'm questioning whether or not I'll ever use it, since my Chatty Cathy days might be numbered soon

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:04 am
by DrWilgy
Yolo Vote: Fredwood

Hello New friend. I'm voting for you and most definitely a doctor.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:15 am
by Sorsha
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
Sure, I'd love for the map to go a civ.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:15 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sorsha wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
Sure, I'd love for the map to go a civ.
Can I safely assume then that you read nutella and Elohcin as civilians?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:16 am
by nutella
So am I misreading something or are both Golden and JJJ claiming to have received the map? :confused:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:19 am
by Sorsha
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
Sure, I'd love for the map to go a civ.
Can I safely assume then that you read nutella and Elohcin as civilians?
You can safely assume that, thus far, I have no reason to believe they aren't.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:20 am
by Sorsha
nutella wrote:So am I misreading something or are both Golden and JJJ claiming to have received the map? :confused:
Marmot did too.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:24 am
by Quin
My role is super cool because it's power increases in proportion to the size of my ego.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:25 am
by Quin
Also, I voted East. I took a BuzzFeed quiz the other day that asked me what my favourite direction was. That was it.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:31 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:My role is super cool because it's power increases in proportion to the size of my ego.
It's a good thing I didn't get that one.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:46 am
by Golden
nutella wrote:So am I misreading something or are both Golden and JJJ claiming to have received the map? :confused:
Good luck baddies figuring out the true owner :p

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:02 am
by Quin
Golden wrote:
nutella wrote:So am I misreading something or are both Golden and JJJ claiming to have received the map? :confused:
Good luck baddies figuring out the true owner :p
It's actually me. I lied before. It's a compulsion.



I'm actually a woman.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:03 am
by Golden
Quin wrote:I'm actually a woman.
And your name is Chloe. Yeah, we figured that out last game :p

You're probably not even Australian.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:05 am
by Quin
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:05 am
by Quin
Golden wrote:
Quin wrote:I'm actually a woman.
And your name is Chloe. Yeah, we figured that out last game :p

You're probably not even Australian.
My name isn't even Quin.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:16 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this?
I already went somewhere with it.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:25 am
by Marmot
Why did nobody believe me when I saaid I had the mapa? Image

Also, I know I'm drunk when I press play on an album and it takes me 15 miutnes of playing to realze I still have the volime on mute.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:25 am
by Quin
I don't see why it was necessary to ask whether Sorsha civ-read the people she mentioned, considering the specifics as to why she mentioned them.

As for Sorsha, I don't think their alignment mattered at all to her. I don't think that in itself is suspicious, but I think appeasing you in her response is.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:27 am
by Marmot
Oh hia quin. Qe meet again. Except this time, I've had 15 4 oz pours of beeeeeeeeer. :beer:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:28 am
by Quin
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh hia quin. Qe meet again. Except this time, I've had 15 4 oz pours of beeeeeeeeer. :beer:
There, there.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:31 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
ONE I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this?
Quin wrote:TWO I don't see why it was necessary to ask whether Sorsha civ-read the people she mentioned, considering the specifics as to why she mentioned them.

THREE As for Sorsha, I don't think their alignment mattered at all to her. I don't think that in itself is suspicious, but I think appeasing you in her response is.
I don't understand the progression from ONE to TWO to THREE. I poked Sorsha about her girls-only map promotion to determine whether/how much she cared about the recipient of the map being a trustworthy civilian (instead of merely a female). She told me that she did care. So I then extracted, via the transitive property, the implied reads that she had not overtly stated:

1. Sorsha wants a female to get the map.
2. Sorsha wants a civilian to get the map.
Thus
Conclusion: Sorsha believes the females are civilians.

Beyond those specifics, squeezing reads out of people is what I do and I know you've seen that before many times. You look fake right now. I rescind my town read.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:32 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
I knew I would do that.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:33 am
by Quin
:clap:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:35 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:40 am
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?
They're a wonderful group of peop le .

I'm more scred of the otherm afia team though. :scared:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:40 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?
They're a wonderful group of peop le .
Which one is your favorite?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:41 am
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?
They're a wonderful group of peop le .
Which one is your favorite?
The one with the mustache. (that woudl be me)

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:42 am
by Quin
2016 GOC wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sorsha wrote:None of the men should get the map. You all won't use it anyway, you'll get us lost and then won't ask for directions :p

It should go to Nutella, Eloh or me.

I'm chosing survivor.
Yo Sorsha, you chummed up with the ladies based on game-irrelevant stuff to pursue the map. Did you care about the alignment of its recipient?
ONE I really only see one answer to this. Were you going somewhere with this?
Quin wrote:TWO I don't see why it was necessary to ask whether Sorsha civ-read the people she mentioned, considering the specifics as to why she mentioned them.

THREE As for Sorsha, I don't think their alignment mattered at all to her. I don't think that in itself is suspicious, but I think appeasing you in her response is.
I don't understand the progression from ONE to TWO to THREE. I poked Sorsha about her girls-only map promotion to determine whether/how much she cared about the recipient of the map being a trustworthy civilian (instead of merely a female). She told me that she did care. So I then extracted, via the transitive property, the implied reads that she had not overtly stated:

1. Sorsha wants a female to get the map.
2. Sorsha wants a civilian to get the map.
Thus
Conclusion: Sorsha believes the females are civilians.

Beyond those specifics, squeezing reads out of people is what I do and I know you've seen that before many times. You look fake right now. I rescind my town read.
I didn't take Sorsha's post to mean 'The only people I would actually consider trusting enough to give the map to are the only two other females in this game'. I took it as a non-serious 'girls-only only' post from the beginning.

What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:43 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should.
"I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..."

That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:45 am
by Quin
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should.
"I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..."

That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread.
The lead-in to your question was a square key in a round hole. It wasn't appropriate in context.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 0 - Out of the Frying Pan

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:46 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dyslexicon wrote:My body. It's ready.

:cloud9: :omg:
Dyslexicon, in our scrimmage game last April you were a townie. You started the game with a decent flurry of activity. This time you have declared that your body is ready and then gone *poof*.

Why?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:46 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should.
"I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..."

That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread.
The lead-in to your question was a square key in a round hole. It wasn't appropriate in context.
I just showed you how it was a square key in a square hole. Explain the discrepancy you perceive.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:51 am
by Quin
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What you usually do doesn't mean anything to me. I don't know why it should.
"I don't see why it's necessary to ask her if she civ-read..."

That's a bizarre way for any sentence to start in a Mafia game thread.
The lead-in to your question was a square key in a round hole. It wasn't appropriate in context.
I just showed you how it was a square key in a square hole. Explain the discrepancy you perceive.
I already know that there's a difference between our perceptions of what Sorsha was saying, but I'll explain anyway.

1. I think Sorsha's post about giving the map to a woman was entirely fluff. Not serious. A gimmick that is only saying 'We are women, so give it to us.' Not 'these girls and I are civ, so give it to us.'
2. Confirming civ-reads doesn't fit, because the post itself was a gimmick.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:53 am
by Quin
Remember that time we agreed that we were often on the same page?

Good times.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:56 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Quin wrote:1. I think Sorsha's post about giving the map to a woman was entirely fluff. Not serious. A gimmick that is only saying 'We are women, so give it to us.' Not 'these girls and I are civ, so give it to us.'
The purpose of asking her those questions was to determine to what degree she was posting fluff. Sometimes baddies like to enter a game that way. Refer to Felt 2 and Sorsha's fluff cloud 9 post that llama laser-beamed.
Quin wrote:2. Confirming civ-reads doesn't fit, because the post itself was a gimmick.
Okay.
Quin wrote:Remember that time we agreed that we were often on the same page?

Good times.
Yeah and then you lined all of your walls with tinfoil. :p

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:59 am
by Marmot
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:1. I think Sorsha's post about giving the map to a woman was entirely fluff. Not serious. A gimmick that is only saying 'We are women, so give it to us.' Not 'these girls and I are civ, so give it to us.'
The purpose of asking her those questions was to determine to what degree she was posting fluff. Sometimes baddies like to enter a game that way. Refer to Felt 2 and Sorsha's fluff cloud 9 post that llama laser-beamed.
So that's how she was lynched? I remebre having her as a top icv read when I was nightkilled, and mbeing surprised to find her come up maifa.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:00 am
by Golden
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Marmot, while you're sloshed, why don't you tell us a little bit about your mafia team?
Dammit, I just did something similar in the other thread thinking I was being original :p

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 1 - And Into the Fire

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:00 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Metalmarsh89 wrote:So that's how she was lynched? I remebre having her as a top icv read when I was nightkilled, and mbeing surprised to find her come up maifa.
Not exactly. I don't think the details are relevant here though, my drunken Marmot friend. :bighug: