The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:

S~V~S wrote:@ Snow~ generally Day Zero is a pregame, no kills is pretty standard. I have not played every game ever played, but I myself do not ever recall an NK in a Day or Night Zero phase that I have played.

@ FH~ I am clueless about what can happen to mobs in water. What makes me leery of ship is the sailing off the edge of the world thing mentioned in the host post.

For what it's worth, there is no "edge of the world" in Minecraft--new chunks spawn as you move through the world so there is always more to explore. Basically think of it as a giant, ever-expanding sandbox.

This may well be true, I don't know. i do know that the host specifically said you could sail off the edge of the flat world, so perhaps there is significance in that. It did not sound very positive to me.

Boogs wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I say yes, Kate. I wanna get the game started

Epignosis wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I think Logan was referencing the Stevies' general disinterest in profitable labor.

reywaS wrote: llama's name is Logan??! That is a very cool name. Is also known as The Wolverine?

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote: llama's name is Logan??! That is a very cool name. Is also known as The Wolverine?

Thank you, but surely you must realize that I can only have one animal pseudonym (as the widely known rule dictates), and I've chosen, perhaps unwisely, to go with llama rather than wolverine.

reywaS wrote:

Boogs wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I say yes, Kate. I wanna get the game started

I notice you are posting in blue. Blue is normally for non players. Orange is the color of sarcasm. and Red is for dead players. And of course, the hosts have their own colors. Normally players just post in white to avoid any confusion.

I voted for the house btw.

reywaS wrote:

Boogs wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:is there anything else that this poll could represent besides night time safety?

A sense of ennui?

I'm sorry...since it was Easter, I assumed that people would need 2 days to check in, but looks like everyone is here. I can start day one tonight if everyone wants me too and all the votes are in.

I say yes, Kate. I wanna get the game started

I notice you are posting in blue. Blue is normally for non players. Orange is the color of sarcasm. and Red is for dead players. And of course, the hosts have their own colors. Normally players just post in white to avoid any confusion.

I voted for the house btw.

S~V~S wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:

S~V~S wrote:@ Snow~ generally Day Zero is a pregame, no kills is pretty standard. I have not played every game ever played, but I myself do not ever recall an NK in a Day or Night Zero phase that I have played.

@ FH~ I am clueless about what can happen to mobs in water. What makes me leery of ship is the sailing off the edge of the world thing mentioned in the host post.

For what it's worth, there is no "edge of the world" in Minecraft--new chunks spawn as you move through the world so there is always more to explore. Basically think of it as a giant, ever-expanding sandbox.

This may well be true, I don't know. i do know that the host specifically said you could sail off the edge of the flat world, so perhaps there is significance in that. It did not sound very positive to me.

Ambray wrote:Woo game on! I promise not to put an early ending to this one for you Andrew.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought it was weird there was this sudden push out of nowhere for House early in the Day 0 period. Knowing that people have info, this could be a civvie push, but it easily also could have been a baddie push.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought it was weird there was this sudden push out of nowhere for House early in the Day 0 period. Knowing that people have info, this could be a civvie push, but it easily also could have been a baddie push.

It's interesting that you perceive a push for the house. I saw a bunch of people vote for the house, but the strongest arguments trying to convince people to vote seemed to come from the Ship voters to me, particularly from Snow Dog. I guess both camps bear watching.

Snow Dog wrote:MP...I din't argue for house. Or against it. i argued about the reasons others stated for voting it. I votes ship. I like ships.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought it was weird there was this sudden push out of nowhere for House early in the Day 0 period. Knowing that people have info, this could be a civvie push, but it easily also could have been a baddie push.

It's interesting that you perceive a push for the house. I saw a bunch of people vote for the house, but the strongest arguments trying to convince people to vote seemed to come from the Ship voters to me, particularly from Snow Dog. I guess both camps bear watching.

Snow Dog wrote:I guess anybody who says anything or argues anything early on is someone to view with suspicion right? After all what else is there to go on? I understand the eying of me no worries.

And MP third game in a row as a baddie? What are the chances?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I guess anybody who says anything or argues anything early on is someone to view with suspicion right? After all what else is there to go on? I understand the eying of me no worries.

And MP third game in a row as a baddie? What are the chances?

This seems awfully defensive, especially since I don't seem to be saying you are baddie.

thellama73 wrote:I think it's really hard to deduce anything from anything yet. The house votes could be due to info, or they could be due to the fact that the host post listed house as the only option without a potentially negative consequence (which is what I suspect.)

I'm not accusing Snow Dog of anything. I just thought the vigor with which he questioned the logic of the house voters was noteworthy.

thellama73 wrote:I think it's really hard to deduce anything from anything yet. The house votes could be due to info, or they could be due to the fact that the host post listed house as the only option without a potentially negative consequence (which is what I suspect.)

I'm not accusing Snow Dog of anything. I just thought the vigor with which he questioned the logic of the house voters was noteworthy.

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I guess anybody who says anything or argues anything early on is someone to view with suspicion right? After all what else is there to go on? I understand the eying of me no worries.

And MP third game in a row as a baddie? What are the chances?

This seems awfully defensive, especially since I don't seem to be saying you are baddie.

It is not intended to be defensive. I am saying i understand your suspicions(only suspicions) and that chances are that YOU are not a baddie this time.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I think it's really hard to deduce anything from anything yet. The house votes could be due to info, or they could be due to the fact that the host post listed house as the only option without a potentially negative consequence (which is what I suspect.)

I'm not accusing Snow Dog of anything. I just thought the vigor with which he questioned the logic of the house voters was noteworthy.

That questioning led to the info that there would be no "Night 0" which was handy to no. I'm glad you think I have vigor.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I admire an active, outward player because it takes balls to go out in the thread and put yourself out there, for reasons I previously stated. I find that I win less games than people tend to think I do because I do tend to be that way, assuming I have the available free time to do so.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
It's strange, though, and I find myself even occasionally being restricted in mafia by the condition you're showing here. Juliets, for example, I tend to naturally read as civvie-minded, even when I know there's an equal odd both ways. I have played many more games with her as civvie than baddie and for some reason, when in lack of any other read based on the current thread, I probably tend to read her intentions as more likely to be good. I've been trying to avoid this, and I think it's imperative that we all do the same.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: I admire an active, outward player because it takes balls to go out in the thread and put yourself out there, for reasons I previously stated. I find that I win less games than people tend to think I do because I do tend to be that way, assuming I have the available free time to do so.

Well said. I appreciate that the three of us tend to have an active play style and it annoys me as well that it so often leads to targeting. I certainly take play style into consideration, and try to avoid punishing people for participating and making the game fun.

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I guess anybody who says anything or argues anything early on is someone to view with suspicion right? After all what else is there to go on? I understand the eying of me no worries.

And MP third game in a row as a baddie? What are the chances?

This seems awfully defensive, especially since I don't seem to be saying you are baddie.

It is not intended to be defensive. I am saying i understand your suspicions(only suspicions) and that chances are that YOU are not a baddie this time.

reywaS wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:I guess anybody who says anything or argues anything early on is someone to view with suspicion right? After all what else is there to go on? I understand the eying of me no worries.

And MP third game in a row as a baddie? What are the chances?

This seems awfully defensive, especially since I don't seem to be saying you are baddie.

It is not intended to be defensive. I am saying i understand your suspicions(only suspicions) and that chances are that YOU are not a baddie this time.

I find these two comments by Snow Dog to be a little odd. I don't understand why they were even said tbh. The first one seems to have been said to put suspicion on MP. Then the 2nd seemed like a backtrack.

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:Its early so I read the Host post again. The Bank and Ship both seem to have been started and the Home just needs some expansion. Since the Home is finished it will have a door. From what I gather from others posts is that Zombies cannot enter through a door so again I am happy with my pick.

Pick what you will Snow but don't try and make me be unsafe by trying to convince me to pick the Ship or Bank.

So you think if we expand the home there will be no NK tonight? And I am not trying to convince you of anything. I don't care at all what you choose. I just question voting house under the pretext that we don't already have a home and that we are unprotected.

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:Its early so I read the Host post again. The Bank and Ship both seem to have been started and the Home just needs some expansion. Since the Home is finished it will have a door. From what I gather from others posts is that Zombies cannot enter through a door so again I am happy with my pick.

Pick what you will Snow but don't try and make me be unsafe by trying to convince me to pick the Ship or Bank.

So you think if we expand the home there will be no NK tonight? And I am not trying to convince you of anything. I don't care at all what you choose. I just question voting house under the pretext that we don't already have a home and that we are unprotected.

I know SVS already told you that Day 0's are quite common but Night 0's I have seen only once.
No, I never said expanding the Home would stop the NK. Where do you get that from?
Where did I say that we didn't have a home? I didn't vote under any of the pretext you have laid out. I voted for the actual reason I stated - yah know in my vote post.

Roxy wrote:I thought you stated you questioned my vote under the pretext that we didn't have a home. I never said that which is why I am confused.

I now do not understand what you meant by the "pretext" stuff.

reywaS wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: I admire an active, outward player because it takes balls to go out in the thread and put yourself out there, for reasons I previously stated. I find that I win less games than people tend to think I do because I do tend to be that way, assuming I have the available free time to do so.

Well said. I appreciate that the three of us tend to have an active play style and it annoys me as well that it so often leads to targeting. I certainly take play style into consideration, and try to avoid punishing people for participating and making the game fun.

Well, if you compare an active player to a non active player, there is naturally going to be more of a chance that an active player will say something to warrant suspicion over a non active player. It doesn't automatically lead suspicion, though, just because a person posts more. It does happen a lot more often for a new player, of course, but once that player develops a "style" that can be observed a few times said person is less and less likely to be found suspicious while being talkative...if that makes any sense?

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:I thought you stated you questioned my vote under the pretext that we didn't have a home. I never said that which is why I am confused.

I now do not understand what you meant by the "pretext" stuff.

Well you did say that bat first but never mind. As I said. I wasn't questioning you in particular. It was a query to all house voters. It really doesn't matter. I thought people may have misread the host post that is all.

>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:I voted house based on my experience with playing the game of Minecraft. If you ask anybody who plays it what you should do first when you start up a new game, the answer will always be to find some sort of shelter.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Only one little thing Snow Dog's said has pinged me, it's not much to go on, and better to judge people based on current game than past games IMO.

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:I thought you stated you questioned my vote under the pretext that we didn't have a home. I never said that which is why I am confused.

I now do not understand what you meant by the "pretext" stuff.

Well you did say that bat first but never mind. As I said. I wasn't questioning you in particular. It was a query to all house voters. It really doesn't matter. I thought people may have misread the host post that is all.

No. No I never said that at first (or bat first).
Either way you trying to shove words down my post.
Please do not insinuate that I meant and posted something when I did not.

thellama73 wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Only one little thing Snow Dog's said has pinged me, it's not much to go on, and better to judge people based on current game than past games IMO.

I totally agree. It's hard not to be influenced by the manipulative monsters who tricked me in the last game, but I try hard not to let those feelings color my vote, as we all should. That's why I'm dreading Day 1. It's so hard to choose for whom to vote based on so little.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I thought it was weird there was this sudden push out of nowhere for House early in the Day 0 period. Knowing that people have info, this could be a civvie push, but it easily also could have been a baddie push.

It's interesting that you perceive a push for the house. I saw a bunch of people vote for the house, but the strongest arguments trying to convince people to vote seemed to come from the Ship voters to me, particularly from Snow Dog. I guess both camps bear watching.

(I hope they do it at a distance and just use binoculars though... it can be really dangerous to watch bears too close up. Thank you! I'll be here all night!)

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:I thought you stated you questioned my vote under the pretext that we didn't have a home. I never said that which is why I am confused.

I now do not understand what you meant by the "pretext" stuff.

Well you did say that bat first but never mind. As I said. I wasn't questioning you in particular. It was a query to all house voters. It really doesn't matter. I thought people may have misread the host post that is all.

No. No I never said that at first (or bat first).
Either way you trying to shove words down my post.
Please do not insinuate that I meant and posted something when I did not.

True. You never said it but implied it.

Roxy wrote:Got a busy day ahead of me at The National Zoo so I need to vote now.

Glad there was some discussion and I am picking Home. I do not want to be outside for the Zombies to find. Nothing better than being home and sleeping in your own bed.

Happy Monday all! <3

Roxy wrote:To add to the "active" player discussion - I do not buy it . I am far from active and never a top poster yet I am often lynched or NK'ed early.
It happens to us all in games. You cannot win them all every time, and just b/c you post a lot does not necessarily equate to suspicions.
At least not for me.

Linky - Snow Dog. We needed to choose House, Bank or Ship. I choose House so I would not be outside available for Zombie munching. That does not say no house exists, no ship exists, no bank exists. It says I voted House so I can be safe and not outside. Way to twist my words into a knot!